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  1. 1. Would you like Obsidian to release new stretch goals to go along with the opening of the Backer Portal?

    • I would love new stretch goals.
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    • No, I would prefer if Obsidian did not introduce new stretch goals.
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Aaaaaggghhh!!!!! There is just no reason for anybody to vote no for goodness sake. If you don't wish to pay more, fine, then don't. Surely, though, let those people who may be new or want to give more be able to do so? The only possible negative is a slightly delayed release. Delayed release??!! We've been waiting over a decade, surely a couple more months won't hurt for what would then BE A BIGGER, LONGER GAME WITH MORE LEVELS AND MORE COMPANIONS!!!

 

Vote yes and if you voted no, change your vote to yes.

 

Obsidian don't you let me down now; i want my Wild Orlan...

I have to disagree, it is perfectly reasonable to vote no, mainly because we haven't actually been able to see what we are truly getting for our money.  If the game had been out and it was merely for an expansion or something it may be a different matter but I am fairly certain many are leary of having more stretch goals without seeing the end result of the kickstarter.

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I  understand why people may be wary of giving more money. However, surely, if the choice is simply:

 

i  vote "yes" to let those who have come late or do wish to pay more and expand the game do so

 

ii. vote "no" and block any extra stuff.

 

It would be sheer folly to block more companions/wilderness levels. If enough people show an interest, obviously Obsidian would go into a little more detail of what we'd be getting and you can then decide whether to invest more, or not (and still get more stuff anyway!). We know what we'd be getting, Obsidian already told us. More wilderness exploration areas and (three) more companions. If half of the people don't want it, there's no point in Obsidian bothering. Obviously, the better/bigger the game, the more chance of a success, the more chance of future games etc., so i really can't comprehend why anybody would vote no. I can see why people might not want to give more money, but not why they'd vote no to others doing so. To me, it simply isn't rational thinking. Voting no is simply saying "no, i'd prefer a smaller, inferior game for the same price".

 

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You seem to be very okay with giving up money without having an actual product, which I of course also did but, I don't see how having new wilderness areas and companions cannot be done by an expansion after we know what kind of quality we have recieved rather than giving more money for a non existing product.  It is folly in my mind to think we know what we would get with more money, "more wilderness exploration areas and 3 more companions" could be utterly terrible, whereas when we get to see the quality of the product first (I do not want to throw more money in based on nostalgia) and then pay for an expansion when we can be fairly reassured on what we are truly getting.  This isn't voting no to others having the ability to offer more, it is merely a poll of obsidian asking how the community feels about the idea.  If enough are against it, it is fairly obvious that the investment into the bonus features would probably not be worth the effort.  You seeing it as people voting no as denying those saying yes is IMO a bad way to look at it.

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So far my conclusions is that we are fine with more streach goal for a game if they have all they need for what they promised us, and now either have more money to spent on next streach goals or add even more content. Companions and more areas are also most desirable things to add into game, as mods made for BG2 for example - a lot of them consist of NPC mods that add companions into a game, or like for IWD 1 & 2 NPC Project Mod that for me is must play with after i tried it once. 

 

Only thing i would like to say i worry about is that i don't want empty wildeness areas like in BG1. I liked it, but its content were spread to thin.


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I changed my vote to yes. My reason for voting no was initially driven by my desire to play the game sooner rather than later... But honestly? Even if it delayed the game by a month or two, it's not going to be the end of the world... And plus, more content(especially companions!) is a good thing. Not sure I'll be contributing more money though -- I'll have to wait and see.

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After pondering this for a good long while (ever since the idea was originally introduced, actually), I have come to the conclusion that the new stretch goals are well-planned enough that scope creep seems mostly - if not entirely - avoidable. As such, I am for them.

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Depends which stretchgoals we're talking about and how much it will delay the whole release.

I wouldn't mind more depth to the companions rather than new ones and class quests.

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Will there be the possibility to kill any ingame character? I just loved that feature even if it was for just after saving before logging off ahaha, so that would be epic to see this carried through :p

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Yes, in one of the interviews they said it is currently free game to kill every character in game. But they also said that they are still discussing whether or not you are allowed to kill the few people related to the main quest.

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If adding more wilderness and companions will make the game more complete, then I'm all for it. I really don't mind having delays, just as long as the game in the end will be awesome. Can't wait! :)

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No thanks. I'd rather see the game come out as intended and then put everything else in the expansion.

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curious when this poll closes and we get to hear something.

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If you get the extra money you need for it then go ahead but I wouldn't put it as binding as a stretch goal, as I'd rather you divert that money to something else should you find it impossible to do it right.

 

In other words, if you get the extra money and it all works fine then go ahead, if you get the extra money but it doesn't work out then go ahead and use it to implement some other feature instead.  Also, remember, each back you get extra may mean less actual sales as they already get the game. :p I'll be certain to pressgang friends into buying it but I myself am already getting the collector's boxset, just a thought.

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I'd be willing to dish out more money, if we get more companions. The wildrness areas are a bonus! When do we get spend more? :p



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If new stretch goals were added, how would that work?  Would new KS pledges be accepted then?  My ulterior motive: I didn't hear about PE until after the KS was done, and I'd rather make a KS pledge than just preorder the game  :devil:

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Anything that will make the game bigger and better would be welcoming, though any stretch goals that conflict with the limited rewards on Kickstarter may piss a few people.

 

This is exciting though!

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When will we learn about these stretch goals?

 

It feels like it's time for them to be revealed, considering the game is planned to release sometime this year.

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u can sell early access for 50$, like one other team do and use this money for new stuff like companions/areas. I think this will be nice.

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I'd love to see more wilderness areas and companions. I don't mind if it pushes the release date by a couple of months.

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