BruceVC Posted February 13, 2014 Posted February 13, 2014 Surprised we haven't seen any Vivinene cosplay yet. ] Link to other BioWare Valentine cards. I think Vivienne is smoking hot, I am looking forward to the Romance options around her "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela
PK htiw klaw eriF Posted February 13, 2014 Posted February 13, 2014 She doesn't need romance, she has a magic staff. 1 "Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic "you're a damned filthy lying robot and you deserve to die and burn in hell." - Bartimaeus "Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander "Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador "You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort "thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex "Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock "Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco "we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii "I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing "feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth "Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi "Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor "I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine "I love cheese despite the pain and carnage." - ShadySands
Tale Posted February 13, 2014 Posted February 13, 2014 She doesn't need romance, she has a magic staff.This is one of those moments where a cane appears and drags someone off stage. 2 "Show me a man who "plays fair" and I'll show you a very talented cheater."
Keyrock Posted February 13, 2014 Posted February 13, 2014 (edited) That Morrigan is no Claudia Black, but she'll do. She's much too pretty to play Morrigan, at least DA3 Morrigan. Edited February 13, 2014 by Keyrock RFK Jr 2024 "Any organization created out of fear must create fear to survive." - Bill Hicks
Bryy Posted February 13, 2014 Posted February 13, 2014 Good lord, I thought that their art design couldn't get any worse after DA2, I was wrong seemingly. She's a Court Mage, right? I think the outfit is perfect. 1
Nonek Posted February 13, 2014 Posted February 13, 2014 For the court yes, but being rained upon, trudging through mud in those high heels, being splatted by great waves of blood as is usual in Dragon Age, getting stabbed and what have you would make that utterly ridiculous attire, fit only for an idiot. Hopefully the young lady will change when venturing out with the protagonist, maybe some sturdy warm leathers and wools that fit the climate rather than the court. I certainly hope they're not going to depict women as morons who can't even dress properly again, it would be rather telling. Quite an experience to live in misery isn't it? That's what it is to be married with children.I've seen things you people can't even imagine. Pearly Kings glittering on the Elephant and Castle, Morris Men dancing 'til the last light of midsummer. I watched Druid fires burning in the ruins of Stonehenge, and Yorkshiremen gurning for prizes. All these things will be lost in time, like alopecia on a skinhead. Time for tiffin. Tea for the teapot!
Humanoid Posted February 13, 2014 Posted February 13, 2014 Magic fabric. Which is to say, Gore-tex product placement. 2 L I E S T R O N GL I V E W R O N G
Bryy Posted February 13, 2014 Posted February 13, 2014 For the court yes, but being rained upon, trudging through mud in those high heels, being splatted by great waves of blood as is usual in Dragon Age, getting stabbed and what have you would make that utterly ridiculous attire, fit only for an idiot. Hopefully the young lady will change when venturing out with the protagonist, maybe some sturdy warm leathers and wools that fit the climate rather than the court. I certainly hope they're not going to depict women as morons who can't even dress properly again, it would be rather telling. Well, considering you can equip armor, that's not going to be the case. And I wouldn't go accusing people of being sexist just because you don't like a costume.
HoonDing Posted February 13, 2014 Posted February 13, 2014 Not like any of that is ever a problem for mages in fantasy settings. The ending of the words is ALMSIVI.
Nonek Posted February 13, 2014 Posted February 13, 2014 Oh i'm not Bryy, they dress men in an equally ridiulous fashion. Quite an experience to live in misery isn't it? That's what it is to be married with children.I've seen things you people can't even imagine. Pearly Kings glittering on the Elephant and Castle, Morris Men dancing 'til the last light of midsummer. I watched Druid fires burning in the ruins of Stonehenge, and Yorkshiremen gurning for prizes. All these things will be lost in time, like alopecia on a skinhead. Time for tiffin. Tea for the teapot!
AGX-17 Posted February 13, 2014 Posted February 13, 2014 (edited) Surprised we haven't seen any Vivinene cosplay yet. I, in contrast, am not. Oh i'm not Bryy, they dress men in an equally ridiulous fashion. Yeah, the Orlesian fashion not related to the ****ty Felicia Day as Herself Mary Sue Bioware Fangasming Because Felicia Day is in Their Game character was pretty Elizabethan. Edited February 13, 2014 by AGX-17
BruceVC Posted February 14, 2014 Posted February 14, 2014 Surprised we haven't seen any Vivinene cosplay yet. I, in contrast, am not. Oh i'm not Bryy, they dress men in an equally ridiulous fashion. Yeah, the Orlesian fashion not related to the ****ty Felicia Day as Herself Mary Sue Bioware Fangasming Because Felicia Day is in Their Game character was pretty Elizabethan. Agx aren't you a big Cosplayer? What's your opinion on those DA costumes, I want the view of someone I consider an expert "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela
Humanoid Posted February 14, 2014 Posted February 14, 2014 The Shale cosplay kit is sadly missing. 3 L I E S T R O N GL I V E W R O N G
BruceVC Posted February 14, 2014 Posted February 14, 2014 For the court yes, but being rained upon, trudging through mud in those high heels, being splatted by great waves of blood as is usual in Dragon Age, getting stabbed and what have you would make that utterly ridiculous attire, fit only for an idiot. Hopefully the young lady will change when venturing out with the protagonist, maybe some sturdy warm leathers and wools that fit the climate rather than the court. I certainly hope they're not going to depict women as morons who can't even dress properly again, it would be rather telling. Choose your battles Nonek, you can't seriously be getting upset around the realism factor of character costumes in a fantasy RPG "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela
Bryy Posted February 14, 2014 Posted February 14, 2014 The Shale cosplay kit is sadly missing. The Shale cameo in DA2 was great.
Serrano Posted February 14, 2014 Posted February 14, 2014 The Shale cosplay kit is sadly missing. The Shale cameo in DA2 was great. Wait, what?
ManifestedISO Posted February 14, 2014 Posted February 14, 2014 Surprised we haven't seen any Vivinene cosplay yet. I, in contrast, am not. Oh i'm not Bryy, they dress men in an equally ridiulous fashion. Yeah, the Orlesian fashion not related to the ****ty Felicia Day as Herself Mary Sue Bioware Fangasming Because Felicia Day is in Their Game character was pretty Elizabethan. Agx aren't you a big Cosplayer? What's your opinion on those DA costumes, I want the view of someone I consider an expert No, not unless pitifully sardonic is a costumed character. 2 All Stop. On Screen.
alanschu Posted February 14, 2014 Posted February 14, 2014 Dunno, I would have thought that most of the marketing would be done by a separate team from the development, that is what you have marketing teams for after all. Developers would do some stuff of course, like dev diaries type stuff, but the only person referenced with respect to the cosplay stuff is the community manager, which is probably a specifically marketing rather than development role. I guess that in theory that does use money that could be used to improve the game by employing another artist or dev- but equally, in theory, it ends up generating more profit from the game to offset or exceed the cost of the marketing... Jessica Merizan is definitely not an active developer on the game itself. With regards to the content presented, a t-posed model of Morrigan is not difficult to create (since it already exists) either. We could view her in the toolset or in game, whichever you prefer! I cannot imagine this being anything but low-cost. I wouldn't be surprised if the concepts already existed in some capacity too. It depends on what you're marketing for, the target audience and is the money going into cosplay marketing by the company a worthwhile endeavour if cosplayers are going to cosplay anyway? It's literally a consumer goodwill thing. Making a blog post is not super intensive work, and for some of the fanbase it's a "hey thanks for this I appreciate it." Those companies seem to do alright with how they market their goods without having to spend money to target cosplayers or cake decorators. It comes down to "how much money do you think was spent on this?" Or time, if you prefer, since in video game develop the adage of time equaling money is pretty fair IMO. Do you feel that this had an opportunity cost that was unacceptable? What else would you like Jessica to be working on? 2
alanschu Posted February 14, 2014 Posted February 14, 2014 Back in 2000 you'd see ads for games in mags, a preview, maybe an interview. It was more straightforward and there was no need for silliness in the vein of "press a button and something awesome happens!!1". Of course, the job of marketing types is to sell—not only to the public, but to potential employers... I dunno. Simpler times, man. I actually agree that marketing is a bit too much (for all games, not just ours). But to be honest, marketing seems like such an engima to me because it's one of those things I don't know how you can verify. Game sold well. Good game, or did marketing help? I have no clue!!! :S So when it comes down to it I don't think that this particular issue is a big deal, and it is probably cost effective because I cannot see it costing much or taking much time and I doubt it's even really aimed at the cosplayers themselves, but at getting articles and images out on the web about DAI. Knowing Jessica, I wouldn't be surprised since she is a huge fan and participant of cosplay herself. Though justifications for doing so in that it becomes a way of getting some exposure for the game for something that is mostly pretty "fan oriented" (IMO anyways) likely doesn't hurt in deciding to go forward with it. Oh look, it's that stupid dragon helmet. I call it a fish helmet. I think it looks like an aquaman thing or something 2
Bryy Posted February 14, 2014 Posted February 14, 2014 The Shale cosplay kit is sadly missing. The Shale cameo in DA2 was great. Wait, what? Shale was on one of the pages of the Order book as it flipped shut in the final scene.
Monte Carlo Posted February 14, 2014 Posted February 14, 2014 I have to wonder if there's a silent majority-sort-of customer who finds this cosplay, sexualised, fandom aspect of the Dragon Age franchise slightly obsessive and off-putting? A genuine question. It can't just be me. I see other games with cosplay, Diablo 3 springs to mind, where the participants are clearly just having a lot of over the top fun. There's a sort of tongue-in-cheek irony to it. Almost infectious, even. I can see the appeal. But the Dragon Age / Bioware types seem to serious. So earnest. So needy. So... strange.
Guest Slinky Posted February 14, 2014 Posted February 14, 2014 A genuine question. It can't just be me. No, you sure aren't. I also just realized there isn't a word in english for seeing someone doing something so stupid it makes the observer feel ashamed. A shared sense of shame?
Nepenthe Posted February 14, 2014 Posted February 14, 2014 (edited) I have to wonder if there's a silent majority-sort-of customer who finds this cosplay, sexualised, fandom aspect of the Dragon Age franchise slightly obsessive and off-putting? A genuine question. It can't just be me. I see other games with cosplay, Diablo 3 springs to mind, where the participants are clearly just having a lot of over the top fun. There's a sort of tongue-in-cheek irony to it. Almost infectious, even. I can see the appeal. But the Dragon Age / Bioware types seem to serious. So earnest. So needy. So... strange. I think the people in this forum imagine Bioware fanboys (ie. anyone who hasn't publicly disavowed them) along the same lines as KKK members saw black people in the 1950s. Or, the person you describe, and the aspects of the game you refer to, either don't exist or aren't there in the amounts you imagine them to be. I also just realized there isn't a word in english for seeing someone doing something so stupid it makes the observer feel ashamed. A shared sense of shame? I find it culturally interesting that there is a word for that in Finnish. Anglos, no proper sense of shame. Edited February 14, 2014 by Nepenthe You're a cheery wee bugger, Nep. Have I ever said that? Reapercussions
Monte Carlo Posted February 14, 2014 Posted February 14, 2014 Ludicrous hyperbole aside, Nep, you might have an inkling of a point.
Nepenthe Posted February 14, 2014 Posted February 14, 2014 Ludicrous hyperbole aside, Nep, you might have an inkling of a point. Trial lawyer. Ludicrous hyperbole is just one of the many weapons in my arsenal. 3 You're a cheery wee bugger, Nep. Have I ever said that? Reapercussions
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