Tale Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 While I thought DA2 was a good game, it was also entirely forgettable. I think this is, from my subjective point of view, the most accurate review I've seen of the game. I think I remember a great deal of the game. Especially the third act. And that's the part preventing me from even trying a replay. "Show me a man who "plays fair" and I'll show you a very talented cheater." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nonek Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 I'll probably buy DA3 if it garners enough good reviews from trusted sources (not "professional game journalists",) unless it's Origins only in which case i'll do as the song says and walk on by. Nonek do you consider me a trusted source? I'll happily review DA3 for you. I am confident that it will provide a worthwhile RPG experience While I appreciate the kind offer sir, i'm not too sure our opinions would be synergistic. However I thank you for the gesture. @Keyrock. Apparently one of the combat design team, a gentleman called Flash (ahhhahhh) is making a full combat rebalance mod for the second game, that deals with the common bugbears you rightly point out. One assumes it's also a beta test for the third games combat system. 1 Quite an experience to live in misery isn't it? That's what it is to be married with children.I've seen things you people can't even imagine. Pearly Kings glittering on the Elephant and Castle, Morris Men dancing 'til the last light of midsummer. I watched Druid fires burning in the ruins of Stonehenge, and Yorkshiremen gurning for prizes. All these things will be lost in time, like alopecia on a skinhead. Time for tiffin. Tea for the teapot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PK htiw klaw eriF Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 While I thought DA2 was a good game, it was also entirely forgettable. I think this is, from my subjective point of view, the most accurate review I've seen of the game. That's even worse than a game being branded as bad. At least a bad game you're likely to remember. Well, YMMV. I'd rather play a game I tremendously enjoy while I'm playing through it and then later forget about (DA2, some others that I've forgotten. ) than one that causes active suffering to me. But I'm not a gaming hipster! Then you are a fool. The only reason to play games is to cause yourself immense suffering and/or boredom. If you are having fun, you are doing it wrong. Not really excited for either, found TW2 pretty boring and repetitive, found DA2 boring and repetitive with worse mechanics than the first. I will check out both if I hear good things about them from people with similar tastes, or if alanshu guarantees the ability to wear a golden codpiece in DA3 in the case of DA3. "Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic "you're a damned filthy lying robot and you deserve to die and burn in hell." - Bartimaeus "Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander "Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador "You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort "thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex "Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock "Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco "we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii "I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing "feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth "Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi "Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor "I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine "I love cheese despite the pain and carnage." - ShadySands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyrock Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 @Keyrock. Apparently one of the combat design team, a gentleman called Flash (ahhhahhh) is making a full combat rebalance mod for the second game, that deals with the common bugbears you rightly point out. One assumes it's also a beta test for the third games combat system. That's a really good idea. I can't wait to test it out in TW2 (that will give me an excuse to play through the game for the 6th time), and it makes all the sense in the world to pass that change, if successful, along to the next game, as it's being made with the same engine, well a new iteration of it, but I'm sure it's quite similar. RFK Jr 2024 "Any organization created out of fear must create fear to survive." - Bill Hicks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 I'll probably buy DA3 if it garners enough good reviews from trusted sources (not "professional game journalists",) unless it's Origins only in which case i'll do as the song says and walk on by. Nonek do you consider me a trusted source? I'll happily review DA3 for you. I am confident that it will provide a worthwhile RPG experience While I appreciate the kind offer sir, i'm not too sure our opinions would be synergistic. However I thank you for the gesture. I was guessing you would say that "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monte Carlo Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 What exactly is a gaming hipster ? Gaming hipsters play obscure indie side-scrollers and look for the meta-narrative in Bioshock Infinite. Although they don't really remember the 80's they are convinced that it's kewl to like games that look like ****e. Gaming hipsters White Knight on the internet and think that liking breasts is a sign of Taliban-esque oppression. Gaming hipsters try to shoehorn their inner geek into a pair of vintage trainers and a stupid haircut. Gaming hipsters like ultra-niche anime, the ones that don't objectify women (although they secretly like tentacle porn). I hope this helps. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcador Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 So the staff of RPS ? *ba-dum-tssh* But that clears things up I suppose. 2 Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nonek Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 Until recently I still thought hipsters were low cut jeans from the seventies, like Robert Plant wears at Madison Square Garden in the Song Remains the Same. Quite an experience to live in misery isn't it? That's what it is to be married with children.I've seen things you people can't even imagine. Pearly Kings glittering on the Elephant and Castle, Morris Men dancing 'til the last light of midsummer. I watched Druid fires burning in the ruins of Stonehenge, and Yorkshiremen gurning for prizes. All these things will be lost in time, like alopecia on a skinhead. Time for tiffin. Tea for the teapot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volourn Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 "That's even worse than a game being branded as bad. At least a bad game you're likely to remember." Yeah, because John Travolta loves the fact people remember Battlefield Earth than the number of movies he's amde that people don't remember. LMAO Anyways, DA series ? Twitcher series. 'Nough said. DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoonDing Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 So how open world will the open world be? The ending of the words is ALMSIVI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyrock Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 So how open world will the open world be? 63.27602% less invisible walls. RFK Jr 2024 "Any organization created out of fear must create fear to survive." - Bill Hicks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drowsy Emperor Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 (edited) That's even worse than a game being branded as bad. At least a bad game you're likely to remember. Why is being remembered - even in a negative connotation - considered a positive? It's redicolous. Being average is definately better than being bad (and DA2 was average overall) Bad games can be amusing, like a bad movie. Average games are irritating because of the unfulfilled potential. Of course, as the lawyer said, YMMV. Edited June 12, 2013 by Drowsy Emperor И погибе Српски кнез Лазаре,И његова сва изгибе војска, Седамдесет и седам иљада;Све је свето и честито билоИ миломе Богу приступачно. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drowsy Emperor Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 What exactly is a gaming hipster ? Gaming hipsters play obscure indie side-scrollers and look for the meta-narrative in Bioshock Infinite. Although they don't really remember the 80's they are convinced that it's kewl to like games that look like ****e. Gaming hipsters White Knight on the internet and think that liking breasts is a sign of Taliban-esque oppression. Gaming hipsters try to shoehorn their inner geek into a pair of vintage trainers and a stupid haircut. Gaming hipsters like ultra-niche anime, the ones that don't objectify women (although they secretly like tentacle porn). I hope this helps. 2 И погибе Српски кнез Лазаре,И његова сва изгибе војска, Седамдесет и седам иљада;Све је свето и честито билоИ миломе Богу приступачно. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshugger Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 They play the original Nintendo system ironically. 1 "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGX-17 Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 (edited) Never could get into The Witcher, so i'm apathetic about that. If DA2 and ME3 are any indication, Bioware will find a way to make the third game worse than the already terrible second. Edited June 12, 2013 by AGX-17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nepenthe Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 (edited) They play the original Nintendo system ironically. They play PC games you've probably never heard of. (I unintentionally do that every time people ask me about the sort of music I like, as I reply with, say, Aesthetic Perfection and XP8 and they give me that blank look. I can be aggressively mainstream in the rest of my life). Edited June 13, 2013 by Nepenthe You're a cheery wee bugger, Nep. Have I ever said that? Reapercussions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightshape Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 Well this thread was an interesting read... I'm not sure if people are just older and more cynical. That said, considering the global gushing that just occurred it's nice to see some sobering comments even if I didn't expect them to be from here. P.S. Volo you're still a spooner. I came up with Crate 3.0 technology. Crate 4.0 - we shall just have to wait and see.Down and out on the Solomani RimNow the Spinward Marches don't look so GRIM! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanschu Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 Hang out on the BSN more if you want some more common, not so gushing, types of comments regarding BioWare games. Although it is often one extreme or the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightshape Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 Was more on about W3... As I'm at CD Projekt Red now - I take it you're still at Bioware, Alanschu? Anyways - I'll be picking up DA3. Sobering comments are great. 2 I came up with Crate 3.0 technology. Crate 4.0 - we shall just have to wait and see.Down and out on the Solomani RimNow the Spinward Marches don't look so GRIM! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malekith Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 Well, W3 was too "Skyrim-like" for my taste. I was more positive towards the game before i saw the trailer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drowsy Emperor Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 Was more on about W3... As I'm at CD Projekt Red now - I take it you're still at Bioware, Alanschu? Anyways - I'll be picking up DA3. Sobering comments are great. You're at CDP now? Cool Working on W3 or Cyberpunk? И погибе Српски кнез Лазаре,И његова сва изгибе војска, Седамдесет и седам иљада;Све је свето и честито билоИ миломе Богу приступачно. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azdeus Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 Well this thread was an interesting read... I'm not sure if people are just older and more cynical. That said, considering the global gushing that just occurred it's nice to see some sobering comments even if I didn't expect them to be from here. P.S. Volo you're still a spooner. Well, I think it'll be a good game, but not as great as it could've been. Due to the nature of open world games I don't think you will be able to keep as high quality as you did previously, and I'm also expecting the Choice & consequences to have less of an impact in the world. It's just going to be more generic in it's feel. I have to ask though, what's up with Geralts armor in the video? It's awful plain compared to this. I still expect it to be alot better than DAI, and I'm going to buy it on day one I reckon. Civilization, in fact, grows more and more maudlin and hysterical; especially under democracy it tends to degenerate into a mere combat of crazes; the whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary. - H.L. Mencken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanschu Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 (edited) Was more on about W3... As I'm at CD Projekt Red now - I take it you're still at Bioware, Alanschu? Anyways - I'll be picking up DA3. Sobering comments are great. Indeed I am. I've not followed The Witcher 3 too closely though. Though I did enjoy the second one. Just remember to tighten up the graphics on level 3! It is funny, how my own preconceived notions led to my assumption as to which product you saw gushing for Edited June 15, 2013 by alanschu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malekith Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 Was more on about W3... As I'm at CD Projekt Red now - I take it you're still at Bioware, Alanschu? Anyways - I'll be picking up DA3. Sobering comments are great. Are there any plans to have an isometric camera option? That can make me excited for the game all by itself. Camera was one main reason that i didn't liked W2 much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
licketysplit Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 (edited) Well Bioware's was just a teaser while TW3 had some gameplay footage, and it looked amazing. I think CD Projekt is the better developer so I'm confident Witcher 3 will be better. Bioware's writing has just tanked of late, and their approach to moral dilemmas and choices has never been as good as the RED's. That said, they're taking more time with DA3's developement so I do expect it to be an improvement over DA2. Edit- damn, Nightshade works at CD Projekt? Cheers mate! Hope the game is going well. Edited June 16, 2013 by licketysplit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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