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Western fear of boobs in videogames  make my displeased. Dragon's Crown become victim of Kotaku's criticism,  Obsidian ban boobplates in Project Eternity, UK and Australia ban  Pamella Anderson advertising.  Guys, do you are really so mad?  Human body for you too much sexist? Maybe it's good time to ban womens breasts, let's force them to amputate this vessels of sin. Maybe someone think this witch-hunt against human nature is progressive and feminist thing, but IRL feminists have noting against women's (and men's also) body. Something rotten in modern European/American culture.


old game screenshot's for comparison. 

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And Planecape Torment  too

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and now

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 It's sadly, but Obsidian become too conformist and mainstream for me now.

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I am on your side but on these forums you will only find that people here thinks practical > sexy

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Oby for once I agree with you on a topic.

 

I am a huge supporter of the aesthetics of the female form and how it adds to a game. So I hope we see more Isabella type female characters in PE than Cadegund who I find boring.

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We like our female video games-characters for their inner beauty, mister! 

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The inner beauty hidden between their large boobs.

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Besides, female body features represses the female characters, didn't you get the memo?

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"I dream things that never were and say why not?"
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"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."
- Friedrich Nietzsche

 

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Looking good isn't only about showing boobs, you know.

 

Besides, I think Cadegund looks sexy. The boob plate was kinda ridiculous (always is, in any game).

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PE was going for realistic, boob plate guides weapons to vital areas rather than deflecting them, hence unrealistic. If it suited the style of the game then that's fine, nut it doesn't.

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I think it's less a fear of boobs and more a better grounding in reality and respect.  It's likely also symptomatic of gaming demographics changing.

 

I hear what you are saying Alan but do you really think that the outfits of  characters like Viconia and Isabella are disrespectful to women?

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"Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss”

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"We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” -  George Bernard Shaw

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Shouldn't you be waging an Internet Cold War in off-topic Oby?

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I find a bloke posing as a female pro-Putin feminist creepier than I can possibly express.

 

EDIT: It's like being a transvestite, but without the physical courage.

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Isn't this covered by one of those irritating immortal threads in the PE subforum ?

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I'm perfectly fine with the art of Dragon's Crown.  Looking forward to the game.

 

I'm perfectly fine with the art of Project: Eternity.  Looking forward to the game.

 

I see no inconsistency here; different approaches by different developers making different games.

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Isn't this covered by one of those irritating immortal threads in the PE subforum ?

 

Irritating immortal threads that somehow you still find the time to read hey Malc?  :p

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John Milton 

"We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” -  George Bernard Shaw

"What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela

 

 

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Irritating immortal threads that somehow you still find the time to read hey Malc?  :p

Given the interval of my reading of that forum teeters on months, not indicative of much. I assume the romance one is still going as well.

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Irritating immortal threads that somehow you still find the time to read hey Malc?  :p

Given the interval of my reading of that forum teeters on months, not indicative of much. I assume the romance one is still going as well.

 

 

Yip, the Romance\Sex thread is seeing a little revival at the moment :)

"Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss”

John Milton 

"We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” -  George Bernard Shaw

"What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela

 

 

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Uhh... not showing boobs is mainstream now?

 

I half agree with this. I very much enjoy seeing the droplets of sweat on a hot and steamy woman's heaving  sweater meat, yet I do not enjoy a game developer banging me over the head with a pair of boobs and a pretty face that is obviously only there for the fap fantasies.

 

So - yes to sexy whenever it fits in context (i.e. many fantasy games serve as wish fullfillment, idealized bodies and tight outfits are a bit of a prerequisite), no to blatant objectification. The problem is a lot of people don't seem to know the difference and just go "boobs? sexism!"

 

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Straw legions rise. Also, good God, that romance thread is still around.

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But what about dudes showing off package?

 

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Notice the unflattering baggy pants, how are we supposed to see his (impressive?) package in those?

 

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But what about dudes showing off package?

 

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Notice the unflattering baggy pants, how are we supposed to see his (impressive?) package in those?

 

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:grin:  Valid point

"Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss”

John Milton 

"We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” -  George Bernard Shaw

"What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela

 

 

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He's not the main character, though. The main characters will have an amaaaaaaaaaaaazing package to deliver to all his fine wenches.

Oh dear, they're making you do fetch quests ?!

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