November 12, 201213 yr Hmm, Elder Scrolls: Online is using this image: I'm sensing a potential trademark issue here. Grand Rhetorist of the Obsidian OrderIf you appeal to "realism" about a video game feature, you are wrong. Go back and try again.
November 12, 201213 yr After my realization that White March has the same XP reward problem, I don't even have the drive to launch game anymore because I hated so much reaching Twin Elms with a level cap in vanilla PoE that I don't wish to relive that experience.
November 12, 201213 yr You know what.....**** Bethesda. I wouldn't put it past them after the horrible way they treated Obsidian with FONV. "Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic "you're a damned filthy lying robot and you deserve to die and burn in hell." - Bartimaeus "Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander "Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador "You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort "thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex "Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock "Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco "we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii "I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing "feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth "Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi "Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor "I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine "I love cheese despite the pain and carnage." - ShadySands
November 12, 201213 yr As far as I know, the snake biting its tail is an ancient symbol, so no trademark issue here And yes **** Beth$. Not only for New Vegas shenanigans, but also for a game like Oblivion that for me ruined the The Elder Scrolls series. EDIT: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ouroboros After my realization that White March has the same XP reward problem, I don't even have the drive to launch game anymore because I hated so much reaching Twin Elms with a level cap in vanilla PoE that I don't wish to relive that experience.
November 12, 201213 yr Author As far as I know, the snake biting its tail is an ancient symbol, so no trademark issue here M is an ancient symbol and that doesn't prevent the golden arches from being trademarked. Grand Rhetorist of the Obsidian OrderIf you appeal to "realism" about a video game feature, you are wrong. Go back and try again.
November 12, 201213 yr Oh God. Not again... Some people here would really appreciate a substantial project update After my realization that White March has the same XP reward problem, I don't even have the drive to launch game anymore because I hated so much reaching Twin Elms with a level cap in vanilla PoE that I don't wish to relive that experience.
November 12, 201213 yr Well, PE's symbol is the Ouroboros, while TES Online sports... three very hungry snakes, eating each other at the same pace, evidently. The only issue I sense is someone pointing out to Bethesda that their TES Online symbol is extremely stupid.
November 12, 201213 yr Author It's amazing what people will sue over nowadays. It's like the Tortocalypse. Grand Rhetorist of the Obsidian OrderIf you appeal to "realism" about a video game feature, you are wrong. Go back and try again.
November 12, 201213 yr Didn't Bethesda try to sue Notch for the word "Scrolls"? Sigh.... So not out of the realm of possibilities. 3DS FC: 3239-2323-6239
November 12, 201213 yr I don't think it will be an issue. The Ouroboros is an ancient symbol and can't be trademarked anymore than I imagine an ankh or cross could be. Now if project eternitys Ouroboros was sporting 3 heads they might be able to get the symbol changed but beyond that I don't think they'd have any case. K is for Kid, a guy or gal just like you. Don't be in such a hurry to grow up, since there's nothin' a kid can't do.
November 12, 201213 yr the ouroboros symbol was not invented by either Obsidian or Bethesda,so I think they are pretty safe.
November 12, 201213 yr Haven't Obisidan removed Ouroboros? You won't find it on any official PE page anymore. Didn't Bethesda try to sue Notch for the word "Scrolls"? On a side note. Notch was about to register trademark "Scrolls", that's what provoked Bethesda. Edited November 12, 201213 yr by Milten
November 12, 201213 yr And yes **** Beth$. Not only for New Vegas shenanigans, but also for a game like Oblivion that for me ruined the The Elder Scrolls series. The only issue I sense is someone pointing out to Bethesda that their TES Online symbol is extremely stupid. Oh, fanboiz... Is nomine vacans liberarit vobis ex servitut. Is nomine vacans redit vobis ars magica.
November 12, 201213 yr They've changed it since the "countdown" period ... and far as we know, might change it again once the game is given an actual name ... so the point is kind of moot anyway. Still gaming with my 9900k/2080ti/32 ram. One day I suppose a game may inspire me to finally upgrade. Maybe.
November 12, 201213 yr Ouroboros (ουροbόρος) = tail-eating in greek the ancient symbol of eternity Edited November 12, 201213 yr by Sedrefilos
November 12, 201213 yr As far as I know, the snake biting its tail is an ancient symbol, so no trademark issue here They did the same with the world "scrolls", so I wouldn't put it past them. They try too hard to be EA, for us to not see it. That's why the symbol for PE changed. Of course I still keep it in my sig. Edited November 12, 201213 yr by kenup
November 12, 201213 yr Besides, the symbol isn't used anywhere in Eternity pages or forums anyway. Even the name "Eternity" or "Project Eternity" is supposed to be just the working name. (Though I'd expect it's going to stick, harder to change the longer you have to get used to it). My suggestion: The Elder Pergaments: Eternity of Oblivion. Of souls, in skyrim. Edited November 12, 201213 yr by Jarmo
November 12, 201213 yr TESO's Logo has three dragons to represent the three factions of their doomed MMO. Nobody owns the Ouroboros iconography. PE's logo is safe.
November 12, 201213 yr You know what.....**** Bethesda. I wouldn't put it past them after the horrible way they treated Obsidian with FONV. As far as I know, the snake biting its tail is an ancient symbol, so no trademark issue here And yes **** Beth$. Not only for New Vegas shenanigans, but also for a game like Oblivion that for me ruined the The Elder Scrolls series. EDIT: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ouroboros You can say f***k Bethesda but you don't want to say that to there army of very competent lawyers. Lets hope this doesn't create a legal issue. I doubt it will "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela
November 12, 201213 yr TESO's Logo has three dragons to represent the three factions of their doomed MMO. Nobody owns the Ouroboros iconography. PE's logo is safe. One dragon, one eagle and one lion =P Is nomine vacans liberarit vobis ex servitut. Is nomine vacans redit vobis ars magica.
November 12, 201213 yr As far as I know, the snake biting its tail is an ancient symbol, so no trademark issue here M is an ancient symbol and that doesn't prevent the golden arches from being trademarked. I'm not a lawyer, but my understanding is that the M is trademarked as a design - two arches that form an M - not as a letter (which wouldn't be trademarkable). Note that as an ancient symbol, the ouroboros isn't trademarkable (its considered a concept in the public domain), however you could make a distinct version of the ouroboros that is trademarkable - like ES:O's three snakes to one eating its tail. Also I thought Obsidian had dropped the traditional ouroboros from their logo, instead using a more abstract circle / sun motiff with a multitude of snakes (which would be trademarkable as far as I know). I cannot - yet I must. How do you calculate that? At what point on the graph do "must" and "cannot" meet? Yet I must - but I cannot! ~ Ro-Man
November 12, 201213 yr My suggestion: The Elder Pergaments: Eternity of Oblivion. Of souls, in skyrim. The Elder Pergaments FTW. The Elder Pergaments I: Coliseum The Elder Pergaments II: Knifeplummet The Elder Pergaments III: Eterrowind The Elder Pergaments VI: Amnesia The Elder Pergaments V: Heavenhem And, of course: The Elder Pergaments: Offline Edited November 12, 201213 yr by mstark "What if a mid-life crisis is just getting halfway through the game and realising you put all your points into the wrong skill tree?"
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