Nepenthe 1,396 Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 Actually playing bgee for the furst time now that it's at 1.2 (only tried it a bit when it came out). The ui tweaks are great, I prefer the new movies and the new bg2 style npcs and quests are really good so far, but am obviously still in the early phases of those as well. Personally consider that as of the current version, it's no longer a convenience option, but actually a lot better than the modded original. Quote You're a cheery wee bugger, Nep. Have I ever said that? Reapercussions Link to post Share on other sites
Bester 615 Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 (edited) $25 is steep... if you're from North Korea and aren't allowed to use a PC. Otherwise I look at it as blip--a minor service charge for saving me the time of modding up my copy. Plus there's whatever content they added, of course. Of course that video isn't actually a promotional video for the north koreans. And that moment where they casually show a class room full of PCs for a few seconds, that's actually papier-mâché, as we all know that in reality they eat tree bark and grass when they're not being shot by the kgb. Edited November 16, 2013 by Bester Quote IE Mod for Pillars of Eternity: link Link to post Share on other sites
MrBrown 142 Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 BG1EE was -75% on steam pretty fast. And for long. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rjshae 9,999 Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 Since they have the original renders for BGEE2, I wonder if the characters and creatures are now anti-aliased? I can't tell with those wide screen shots. Quote "It has just been discovered that research causes cancer in rats." Link to post Share on other sites
Azure79 115 Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 $25 is steep... if you're from North Korea and aren't allowed to use a PC. Otherwise I look at it as blip--a minor service charge for saving me the time of modding up my copy. Plus there's whatever content they added, of course. But modding up a game to your specific tastes is fun! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bartimaeus 2,691 Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Since they have the original renders for BGEE2, I wonder if the characters and creatures are now anti-aliased? I can't tell with those wide screen shots. They do? In that case, why weren't they improved for BG1:EE, since they mostly switched over to BG2 sprites, (or created some of their own (or used what modders created before the game was released, mainly 1pp's/Erephine's, I think))? Quote Put fascists and sociopaths on your ignore list. Quote Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past. Link to post Share on other sites
Mamoulian War 2,046 Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 $25 is steep... if you're from North Korea and aren't allowed to use a PC. Otherwise I look at it as blip--a minor service charge for saving me the time of modding up my copy. Plus there's whatever content they added, of course. Ehm, I got my copies modded to BGT and unfinished business (including download) in less than 15 minutes... So unless you make 100$ per hour, it's overpriced... Quote Sent from my Stone Tablet, using Chisel-a-Talk 2000BC. My youtube channel: MamoulianFH Latest Let's Play Shadowrun Hong Kong Extended Edition (in progress) Let's Play/AAR Europa Universalis 1: Austria Grand Campaign (completed) Let's Play/AAR Europa Universalis 2: Xhosa Grand Campaign (completed) My PS Platinums and 100% - 22 games so far (my PSN profile) 1) God of War III - PS3 - 24+ hours 2) Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 130+ hours 3) White Knight Chronicles International Edition - PS3 - 525+ hours 4) Hyperdimension Neptunia - PS3 - 80+ hours 5) Final Fantasy XIII-2 - PS3 - 200+ hours 6) Tales of Xillia - PS3 - 135+ hours 7) Hyperdimension Neptunia mk2 - PS3 - 152+ hours 8.) Grand Turismo 6 - PS3 - 81+ hours (including Senna Master DLC) 9) Demon's Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours 10) Tales of Graces f - PS3 - 337+ hours 11) Star Ocean: The Last Hope International - PS3 - 750+ hours 12) Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 127+ hours 13) Soulcalibur V - PS3 - 73+ hours 14) Gran Turismo 5 - PS3 - 600+ hours 15) Tales of Xillia 2 - PS3 - 302+ hours 16) Mortal Kombat XL - PS4 - 95+ hours 17) Project CARS Game of the Year Edition - PS4 - 120+ hours 18) Dark Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours 19) Hyperdimension Neptunia Victory - PS3 - 238+ hours 20) Final Fantasy Type-0 - PS4 - 58+ hours 21) Journey - PS4 - 9+ hours 22) Dark Souls II - PS3 - 210+ hours Link to post Share on other sites
Nepenthe 1,396 Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 $25 is steep... if you're from North Korea and aren't allowed to use a PC. Otherwise I look at it as blip--a minor service charge for saving me the time of modding up my copy. Plus there's whatever content they added, of course. Ehm, I got my copies modded to BGT and unfinished business (including download) in less than 15 minutes... So unless you make 100$ per hour, it's overpriced... I for one charge a lot more than that. But as usual, you get the guys who enjoy diy and tinkering and the ones who are happy to hire a professional, so to speak. And, you're definitely getting more than UB and BGT with it (and less green water) Quote You're a cheery wee bugger, Nep. Have I ever said that? Reapercussions Link to post Share on other sites
Bartimaeus 2,691 Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 $25 is steep... if you're from North Korea and aren't allowed to use a PC. Otherwise I look at it as blip--a minor service charge for saving me the time of modding up my copy. Plus there's whatever content they added, of course. Ehm, I got my copies modded to BGT and unfinished business (including download) in less than 15 minutes... So unless you make 100$ per hour, it's overpriced... And, you're definitely getting more than UB and BGT with it Yes...that's the bad bit. Quote Put fascists and sociopaths on your ignore list. Quote Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past. Link to post Share on other sites
Bester 615 Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 (edited) All good mods will be converted to BG2EE eventually, so in a few years it'll definitely make sense. I haven't played it yet, just launched and saw the intro. The sound in the intro (where you get captured etc) is dull somehow, anyone else noticed it? They ****ed something up. Edited November 17, 2013 by Bester Quote IE Mod for Pillars of Eternity: link Link to post Share on other sites
KP the meanie zucchini 6,650 Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 All good mods already work with BG2, and I already have a copy installed on my secondary drive. Unless you are on a Mac, BG(2)EE doesn't provide enough extra content to warrant the extra price. Now, if they included more than just a few NPCs, used a better ruleset, and managed to improve upon the ToB section of the game it would be a good buy. Quote "I am the expert, asshat." - Hurlsnot "You need to be careful, lest I write another ten page essay on mythology and how it relates to Sailor Moon." - majestic "I won't say what just in case KaineParker is reading" - Bartimaeus "Oh no! Is there super secret ending as well? I don’t care." - Wormerine Link to post Share on other sites
Nepenthe 1,396 Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 All good mods already work with BG2, and I already have a copy installed on my secondary drive. Unless you are on a Mac, BG(2)EE doesn't provide enough extra content to warrant the extra price. Now, if they included more than just a few NPCs, used a better ruleset, and managed to improve upon the ToB section of the game it would be a good buy. Since everybody else is a broken record, I can be too: personally find the ui improvements (walk dots based on character colors so you can see at a glance who's going where etc.) alone worth the price. If course i own like 4 or 5 copies of both games evem before the EEs, so price isn't really a consideration for me in the context of the BGs... 1 Quote You're a cheery wee bugger, Nep. Have I ever said that? Reapercussions Link to post Share on other sites
Spider 80 Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Have they figured out mod support for the ipad version of this yet? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Messier-31 2,481 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Seriously, I got my copy of the whole BG saga for $25, and it was all the way back in 2003. Add some modding to the eqation, and voila - superb game! BG:EE and BG2:EE can go "quack" themselves. Quote It would be of small avail to talk of magic in the air... Link to post Share on other sites
Nepenthe 1,396 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 *deep sigh* Quote You're a cheery wee bugger, Nep. Have I ever said that? Reapercussions Link to post Share on other sites
Serrano 546 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Old news now but this is what I call an Enhanced Edition! It's been finished and patched up apparently so I'm sorely tempted to leave my BG:EE to collect dust and just play this instead. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bartimaeus 2,691 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Old news now but this is what I call an Enhanced Edition! It's been finished and patched up apparently so I'm sorely tempted to leave my BG:EE to collect dust and just play this instead. I still find the fact that they made/are making this very impressive...but also still think that the chances of me wanting to try and play Baldur's Gate in the NWN engine/setup to be close to nil. Quote Put fascists and sociopaths on your ignore list. Quote Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past. Link to post Share on other sites
Mungri 366 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 (edited) BG in the NWN engine is not an enhanced edition, its a dumbed down and beyond destroyed edition. You dont enhance BG by making it 3D, even worse when its made into the worst 3D engine ever developed. I tried that module already some time ago and hated it, I want a game just like BG, not more NWN type games / mods. Im guessing that Project Eternity is going to be the closest thing to that. Beamdog did the best they could given what they were allowed to do by Atari and WOTC. All the original source art had been lost, and they were not allowed to change or alter any of the games content, only make additions. As for the cost of BG1EE and BG2EE, they were more of a kickstarter fund for a possible BG3. Beamdog's plan was to make a new isometric BG3 if the EEs of the first two were successful, but I dont think that they have been. Edited November 22, 2013 by Mungri 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Serrano 546 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 (edited) I tried that module already some time ago and hated it, I want a game just like BG, not more NWN type games / mods. And I can appreciate that, I really liked NWN2 and it's engine though (Preferred it to the infinity engine actually although I did love those games) so I'm looking forward to playing it. Edited November 22, 2013 by Serrano Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Walsingham 3,466 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Mungri, your obsession with 3D being bad is pretty creepy. Quote "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp. Link to post Share on other sites
Mungri 366 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 (edited) Most 3D games are great, its just the Aurora engine I couldnt stand. The camera angles, awkward party controls and cell based areas killed the game for me. My obsession is that since NWN, Isometric party based RPGs were completely killed off, like no one wanted to play or make them anymore. DAO got 3D and tactical party combat right, but they went and completely ruined that in DA2, and now for some unknown reason, they are copying games like Skyrim for DA3. It would be like taking the Civ or Total War series, and changing them into real time strategies and never having any new TBS games anymore. I mention it a lot in the hope that one day more developers might go back to making more 2D Iso games. Edited November 22, 2013 by Mungri 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zeckul 202 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 (edited) Most 3D games are great, its just the Aurora engine I couldnt stand. The camera angles, awkward party controls and cell based areas killed the game for me. My obsession is that since NWN, Isometric party based RPGs were completely killed off, like no one wanted to play or make them anymore. NWN2 uses the Electron Engine, not the Aurora Engine. Mask of the Betrayer played quite well in strategic mode ("isometric") in my experience. Edited November 22, 2013 by Zeckul Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rjshae 9,999 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Most 3D games are great, its just the Aurora engine I couldnt stand. The camera angles, awkward party controls and cell based areas killed the game for me. My obsession is that since NWN, Isometric party based RPGs were completely killed off, like no one wanted to play or make them anymore. NWN2 uses the Electron Engine, not the Aurora Engine. Mask of the Betrayer played quite well in strategic mode ("isometric") in my experience. To me the biggest benefit of NWN2 is that it uses the third edition rules. The engine seemed fine to me--it's getting long in the tooth, but still runs pretty decently. People have their biases, I guess. 1 Quote "It has just been discovered that research causes cancer in rats." Link to post Share on other sites
Volourn 2,546 Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 "NWN2 uses the electron engine not the aurora engine." L0L Quote DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250. Link to post Share on other sites
BruceVC 2,934 Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 "NWN2 uses the electron engine not the aurora engine." L0L And your point is? Is that statement incorrect or is the electron engine inferior. As usual I have no idea what you are LOL about? Quote "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to post Share on other sites
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