Bos_hybrid Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 Personally I would like to see a stronghold/PC base, I've always enjoyed them. I tend to feel it would make a good stretch goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humanoid Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 (edited) A PC home, as long as it's strictly that (both the PC part and the home part), makes sense in that it gives the player a sense of belonging in the world. But as discussed in the NPC thread, it shouldn't really be a base of operations where your unused NPCs hang out and that, making them into subservient lackeys without lives or agendas of their own. It's just your home, the place you've lived prior to the events of the game. Of course, this assumes the player character isn't some outsider/outworlder shipwrecked/teleported into the setting. But I'd rather not see that. Edited September 15, 2012 by Humanoid L I E S T R O N GL I V E W R O N G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phekdra Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 I'd be worried that something like that might interfere with the main plot. I'm a wanderer with a bunch of bedraggled companions... but look at my big shiny castle! Still playing through Planescape Torment... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlight Butterfly Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 I quite liked them in BG2. Especially that you had to do a quest to get them. That was very pleasing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C2B Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 (edited) A PC home, as long as it's strictly that (both the PC part and the home part), makes sense in that it gives the player a sense of belonging in the world. But as discussed in the NPC thread, it shouldn't really be a base of operations where your unused NPCs hang out and that, making them into subservient lackeys without lives or agendas of their own. It's just your home, the place you've lived prior to the events of the game. Depends on how big said stronghold is and if the NPC's would live in it. Also there's no reason why NPC's couldn't have lives on their own, is there? Maybe following a proffession or similiar. Maybe certain NPC's are traders and are unavailable for a certain time, but come back helping the homegrown economy. Ah, that brings up a question. Edited September 15, 2012 by C2B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oerwinde Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 This is something that I like in every RPG its in. Even if its as simple as it was in the Suikoden games where it just upgrades depending on who is recruited. Something akin to Crossroads Keep would be ideal, but with even more depth. 2 The area between the balls and the butt is a hotbed of terrorist activity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twincast Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 I too like this kind of thing in even the most basic way, but what I love is when there are upgrades and I really, really love when those upgrades are actually based on tough decisions between for the most part equally valid, but different options, not just two or three levels of effectiveness v. cost. Proud Probatanthrope @D:OSTor.com: Boob Plate Armor Would Kill You (cf. "ball plate armor" - Just think about it.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intoxicated_Ant Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 I've always loved having my own little bit of 'home' in my games. NWN2 was awesome with the upgradable keep. I loved it/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldRPG'sAreGood Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 (edited) I rarely find them good with an adventuring character, but I don't really care if one or two are put in, as long there is nothing forcing me to use them. Edited September 15, 2012 by OldRPG'sAreGood Dude, I can see my own soul..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorth Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 I loved the keep and the little events around managing it in NWN2. Voted stretch goal. 4 “He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would surely suffice.” - Albert Einstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flouride Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 Voted as a stretch goal. Really lowed the keep and the events involving it in NWN2. 1 Hate the living, love the dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nakia Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 I like the stronghold and think it should be up gradable/customizable. It should be earned via a quest. I voted #1 but maybe a stretch goal would be better. 1 I have but one enemy: myself - Drow saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sharmat Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 I've loved this in every game it's featured in, even when it's not actually that long a quest chain and the choices are largely illusory. See: The Raven Rock colony in Bloodmoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tale Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 I really really enjoy the idea of being a bunch of homeless wanderers going from town to town, raiding people's shelves, and picking up the odd parcel delivery. The entire group is a bunch of people with no place in this world, just passing through. That said, that's a personal preference. If the game functions fine without forcing either way, that'd be perfect. "Show me a man who "plays fair" and I'll show you a very talented cheater." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rostere Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 Well, this depends entirely on how it would make sense in the story... "Well, overkill is my middle name. And my last name. And all of my other names as well!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monte Carlo Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 Crossroads Keep was excellent. Let's have something like that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seagloom Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 I can take it or leave it. I enjoyed it in BG2 and NWN2, but to be honest none of those places ever felt like home. Other than Big MT in OWB, I can't remember a protagonist ever being linked to their stronghold in an ending either. They tend to feel like a disconnected part of my character's past once their relevance to the story is over. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gyrotica Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 I liked how having a stronghold in Baldur's Gate 2 also came with its own quests in terms of administrating and managing it. Being able to use your own gold to help the people of the De'Arnise lands was a high point for my game, and I haven't really seen anything similar in any other game I've played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xantomas Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 I like it as a stretch goal, it's not critical to the primary story and enjoyment of the game. Make an awesome game first and use things like strongholds, crafting, lots more side-quests and companion quests as extra content if you have the time and money for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posbi Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 I loved the keep and the little events around managing it in NWN2. Voted stretch goal.Getting something like the Keep later in the game with an even intensified degree of responsiveniss compared to NWN2 would be awesome. Managing the keep, ordering the little side mission and meeting that other adventurer group were some of the highlights of that game. If it's possible to include something similar in principle I'm all for it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanpaco Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 I liked the different strongholds for different classes approach of BG2. The one-size-fits-all approach of NW2 didn't really do it for me. Codex Explorer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badmojo Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 I loved crossroads Keep, I like the idea of customizing/upgrading my home. I also like ego draconis 2 with your tower, having a lab to build your monsters, smith..etc. That is what I would like, choose the direction from going a nice good keep, to creating a lair of evil. Some things if I was evil, necromancy lab to build monsters/reanimated undead soldiers, torture/prison chamber to feed if I am a monster like a vampire, to break spirits to turn into servants/thralls, etc Other things like hiring servants or soldiers, upgrading defense/buildings...etc. Would like to actually have a personal town/keep like area to run. What can I say, I love a little city building stuff like this. I said I hope its in, but it will be cool if its also a stretch goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
actionjezus6 Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 Great idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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