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Didn't Bethie win some sort of industry writing award for either Oblivion or FO3?

 

The standards are pretty low.

 

Maybe it does have the best writing since PS:T.

 

Unlikely to have BETTER writing THAN PS:T though.

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he claims DA2 has better writing than any other CRPG released in the past 10 years? this is BS of course

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he claims DA2 has better writing than any other CRPG released in the past 10 years? this is BS of course

 

 

Maybe. It's not exactly a crowded field of candidates for the awesome-rpg-writing-award though.

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DA2 had some good writing, sometimes even strong, but nah, the best writing since PS:T comes from MCA himself, Alpha Protocol.

I agree with you, AP is probly the only game that has successfully pulled off the dialog wheel.

 

Not to say that DA2 didn't have it's moments but I believe that's true of every BW game. Long periods of tedium which delve into hit/miss moments.

DA2 did a lot things right in terms of C&C, my only complaint is that you have to play a horrible game in order to experience them.

I'd say the answer to that question is kind of like the answer to "who's the sucker in this poker game?"*

 

*If you can't tell, it's you. ;)

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AlphaPHAIL has bestw riting/ LMAO Now, if you Obsidian fanboys had pointed out the awesomesauce that is MOTB then I could be on your side but AP? BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! :biggrin: Some of the worstw riting EVAR. I'm talking DTU, POR2, and EOTB bad.

 

 

As for DA2... well, imo, the quality of it writing is pretty much BIoish. if you hate BIO's writing you will likely hate DA2 writing if you love BIO writing you will love DA2 writing. Just that simple.

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Dragon Age II Has the Best Writing since PS:T

 

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Sure did.

 

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I thought you were the eternal 'Volourn' !

 

I don't think that DA 2 writing is bad... But, it's not the best writing I've seen in a game, but then again Heavy Rain won a bafta for best story, and that whilst not bad, wasn't exactly award worthy.

 

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AlphaPHAIL has bestw riting/ LMAO Now, if you Obsidian fanboys had pointed out the awesomesauce that is MOTB then I could be on your side but AP? BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! :biggrin: Some of the worstw riting EVAR. I'm talking DTU, POR2, and EOTB bad.

 

 

As for DA2... well, imo, the quality of it writing is pretty much BIoish. if you hate BIO's writing you will likely hate DA2 writing if you love BIO writing you will love DA2 writing. Just that simple.

 

I dunno about DA2, since i haven't played it yet. But i think that Alpha Protocol had pretty damn good writing and dialogue, the gameplay on the other hand....meh.

 

Maybe you confused it with story? Since that was quite underwhelming. For example, Blade Runner didn't have an excellent story (A guy hunting cyborgs), but it had excellent writing ('Tears in rain').

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I dunno about DA2, since i haven't played it yet. But i think that Alpha Protocol had pretty damn good writing and dialogue, the gameplay on the other hand....meh.

 

Maybe you confused it with story? Since that was quite underwhelming. For example, Blade Runner didn't have an excellent story (A guy hunting cyborgs), but it had excellent writing ('Tears in rain').

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I dunno about DA2, since i haven't played it yet. But i think that Alpha Protocol had pretty damn good writing and dialogue, the gameplay on the other hand....meh.

 

Maybe you confused it with story? Since that was quite underwhelming. For example, Blade Runner didn't have an excellent story (A guy hunting cyborgs), but it had excellent writing ('Tears in rain').

Blade Runner had an excellent story called "Do Androids dream of electric sheep" I don't know what you are talking about.

I'd say the answer to that question is kind of like the answer to "who's the sucker in this poker game?"*

 

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Maybe you confused it with story? Since that was quite underwhelming. For example, Blade Runner didn't have an excellent story (A guy hunting cyborgs), but it had excellent writing ('Tears in rain').

Hauer ad-libbed the last few sentences of that sequence.

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I'd say the answer to that question is kind of like the answer to "who's the sucker in this poker game?"*

 

*If you can't tell, it's you. ;)

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Heh, Volly has never really played AP yet he's free to spew his lies. But oh dare us who barely played DA2 to crush it down, we gain Volley's eternal wrath.

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I agree that that is such a stupid idiotic pathetic garbage hateful retarded scumbag evil satanic nazi like term ever created. At least top 5.

 

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Maybe you confused it with story? Since that was quite underwhelming. For example, Blade Runner didn't have an excellent story (A guy hunting cyborgs), but it had excellent writing ('Tears in rain').

Hauer ad-libbed the last few sentences of that sequence.

 

Thus, making him an even greater actor than he already was. But really, the movie had excellent writing, direction, cinematography, acting, pacing, soundtrack and theme. But the story was as basic as it is: A guy hunting cyborgs during the course of a couple of days and finds out more about himself.

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I've always loved that. Sci-fi babble and adlibbing mixed into emotional climax. Oscar worthy scene for sure.

 

Back to the topic. Is there some bulletproof definition what "writing" means in context of games? Sometimes people confuse "writing" with "storyline" or are those two inseparable. Or is the "writing" same thing as question - What is a RPG? You get 100 different answers from 100 different people.

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"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time... like tears in rain... Time to die."

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I'd say the answer to that question is kind of like the answer to "who's the sucker in this poker game?"*

 

*If you can't tell, it's you. ;)

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