Oner Posted June 8, 2010 Posted June 8, 2010 They should given the disucssions we've seen in other places on here from Devs. I did notice in my "meet conrad" conversation Thorton said "I'm an operative now, I had to change my 5 year plan after saudi". I expect that if I'd gone with commando or whatever I'd find that he said something else.I was thinking of the number of reactive elements.With a tech specialist so far: "Electric fence around a dog kennel" conversation with Parker, "I did evaluation for gadgets" chat with Westridge, the assassination plans, getting Brayko's vault info+ saving ally, bugging G22, chat with Marburg at the caf Giveaway list: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DgyQFpOJvyNASt8A12ipyV_iwpLXg_yltGG5mffvSwo/edit?usp=sharing What is glass but tortured sand?Never forget! '12.01.13.
Raithe Posted June 8, 2010 Posted June 8, 2010 Hm, well I had high pistol and martial arts skills for one playthrough, when you meet Championichik and there's that whole Mike: Is that gold medal real? Sukov: He won it for boxing Mike: Cool, I got a couple for shooting and martial arts... I'm guessing that's a moment of reactivity due to skills.. "Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum."
Oner Posted June 8, 2010 Posted June 8, 2010 Ah yes, forgot about that one. Giveaway list: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DgyQFpOJvyNASt8A12ipyV_iwpLXg_yltGG5mffvSwo/edit?usp=sharing What is glass but tortured sand?Never forget! '12.01.13.
Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien Posted June 8, 2010 Posted June 8, 2010 Another thing that comes up in some conversations is what clothes you are wearing. Surkov being a prime example when you goto meet him after helping him get out of the embassy. If you are wearing utility armor he comments on the number of pockets on the suit. If wearing one of the infiltrator style ones he comments on how surprised he is to see us come up to him so openly and thorton replies stating something about how he should be crawling up alongside walls. I think there are others that mention it too.
Raithe Posted June 8, 2010 Posted June 8, 2010 Omen Deng comments about the "good fieldcraft" for trying to blend in by wearing civilian clothing in the subway station... "Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum."
Oblarg Posted June 8, 2010 Posted June 8, 2010 The skill reactivity isn't based on "class," it's based on skill level. I was a freelancer and still got the technical aptitude reactivity. That's really cool, I haven't seen many other games do that. "The universe is a yawning chasm, filled with emptiness and the puerile meanderings of sentience..." - Ulyaoth "It is all that is left unsaid upon which tragedies are built." - Kreia "I thought this forum was for Speculation & Discussion, not Speculation & Calling People Trolls." - lord of flies
Spydude Posted June 8, 2010 Posted June 8, 2010 Omen Deng comments about the "good fieldcraft" for trying to blend in by wearing civilian clothing in the subway station... I wore my armor this last time but did Rome before Taipei and he didn't comment about it. He complimented me on my job there (disarming bombs, killing Marburg but didn't mention them specifically). When I did Taipei first in armor he said I was conspicuous with my armor on.
Shinaju Posted June 16, 2010 Posted June 16, 2010 Mike looks so silly with full gear in the subway station.
Enoch Posted June 16, 2010 Posted June 16, 2010 Only reactivity I noticed for a field agent/spy was the Westridge chat and the Marburg chat and maybe the beginning of the Darcy mission (Investigate weapons stockpile). IIRC, there's a "Field Agent" option when you try to talk your way past the guards at the Moscow embassy.
jokerwoker Posted June 17, 2010 Posted June 17, 2010 You can easily get past the guards. They seem to respond best Suave responses, but all three gets them to let you pass.
Nikolai Posted June 18, 2010 Posted June 18, 2010 You can easily get past the guards. They seem to respond best Suave responses, but all three gets them to let you pass. Not true. I've failed with aggressive and professional. They call Surkhov to confirm your appointment and he doesn't like what he sees... Veteran works. It may be related to your relationship with Grigori and the report he passes along to Surkhov and the embassy.
jokerwoker Posted June 18, 2010 Posted June 18, 2010 You can easily get past the guards. They seem to respond best Suave responses, but all three gets them to let you pass. Not true. I've failed with aggressive and professional. They call Surkhov to confirm your appointment and he doesn't like what he sees... Veteran works. It may be related to your relationship with Grigori and the report he passes along to Surkhov and the embassy. Actually, I never failed with aggressive or professional. it must be the hardcore marines you are talkiing about, not the soft guards.
Alpha Posted June 18, 2010 Posted June 18, 2010 Professional all the way to past the guards without problems.
Tigranes Posted June 18, 2010 Posted June 18, 2010 The guards are easier to get past, the marines are much harder.... as it should be. Let's Play: Icewind Dale Ironman (Complete) Let's Play: Icewind Dale II Ironman (Complete) Let's Play: Divinity II (Complete) Let's Play: Baldur's Gate Trilogy Ironman - BG1 (Complete) Let's Play: Baldur's Gate Trilogy Ironman - BG2 (In Progress)
jokerwoker Posted June 19, 2010 Posted June 19, 2010 Technically, the guards ARE marines, as someone else said before, they have apatch one of the arms that said "Marines" or smething to that effect. That being said, it seems like these guards aren't used any issues, unlike the real and fit soldiers.
SAMS Posted June 22, 2010 Posted June 22, 2010 Mina Tang? I loathe her. Get her up to totally enormed with Mike, then put a bullet in her head. I prefer a missile, but a bullet will do.
Enoch Posted June 22, 2010 Posted June 22, 2010 Technically, the guards ARE marines, as someone else said before, they have apatch one of the arms that said "Marines" or smething to that effect. That being said, it seems like these guards aren't used any issues, unlike the real and fit soldiers. This is accurate-- the State Department has a standing agreement with the USMC whereby the latter provides security at major U.S. Embassies. There are about a battalion's worth of Marines on duty at 148 diplomatic posts around the world. Wiki link.
edgarcuk Posted June 22, 2010 Posted June 22, 2010 Getting back to topic, I found Mina Tang the most manipulative character... of course she come clean at the end, after she's got what she wanted: make you rogue, helping you in missions, and so on... in terms of honestly, I like Marburg ( egocentric but honest about being professional, egocentric, taking advantage), Parker ( a bastard, but a honest one, cutting down the BS and telling you the reason you are doing it) and SIE ( all violence and rapping but honest about that) ... I "trusted" her and I saved her because of the points... the only thing that annoys me is to leave with her on the boat, I would prefer Scarlet or SIE... oh yes! finishing like any old Bond film,
Nikolai Posted June 25, 2010 Posted June 25, 2010 Points to Alpha Protocol for having an Asian important character who was only a little bit of a racial stereotype. As for her personality... I knew something was up with her from the way the Kill Shaheed mission ended. But I ended up liking her because she seemed like she stuck to her principles--do good for America, kill as few people as possible, don't make a scene.
Estelindis Posted July 15, 2010 Posted July 15, 2010 (edited) You can count me in as a big Mina fan. She's intelligent, level-headed, and professional - but not in the least bit obnoxious about it (unlike some "strong" female characters, whose writers seem to assume strong = bitch). Finding out her secret fact cinched things for me - and for my professional and patriotic Mike. Edited July 15, 2010 by Estelindis
Wrath of Dagon Posted July 21, 2010 Posted July 21, 2010 How is she responsible for you going rogue? After AP tried to kill you, you had no other choice, right? It's not like you could just go on working for them. "Moral indignation is a standard strategy for endowing the idiot with dignity." Marshall McLuhan
Sannom Posted July 21, 2010 Posted July 21, 2010 I think the problem is that she manipulated you. She didn't save Michael out of the goodness of her heart, she wanted him to put Alpha Protocol and Halbech down. She played her cards so that Michael will stay in contact with her and work toward this goal.
Wrath of Dagon Posted July 21, 2010 Posted July 21, 2010 But she couldn't do it if Michael's goals weren't the same, it's not like she tricked you in any way. And there's no indication she wouldn't have saved you regardless, after all she hates it when you kill civilians (even whores on a gangster ship, what's up with that?) "Moral indignation is a standard strategy for endowing the idiot with dignity." Marshall McLuhan
Thorton_AP Posted July 28, 2010 Posted July 28, 2010 A woman getting upset at you killing whores does not at all strike me as out of place. Especially someone as intelligent as Mina.
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