Jaesun Posted August 15, 2009 Posted August 15, 2009 http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/4news/20090814 It mentions that the next 4th Edition Campaign Setting will be Dark Sun. <3 Cover art looks excellent. Some of my Youtube Classic Roland MT-32 Video Game Music videos | My Music | My Photography
Morgoth Posted August 15, 2009 Posted August 15, 2009 (edited) I know nothing about this setting, and I don't care how crappy 4e is, but do we get to see Obsidian making a game in this setting eventually? Edited August 15, 2009 by Morgoth Rain makes everything better.
Niten_Ryu Posted August 15, 2009 Posted August 15, 2009 I wonder what made 'em to take the risk. In 2nd edition era Dark Sun and Planescape were my favorite campaign settings but neither of those have real commercial potential. Both probably contributed the downfall of TSR. Let's play Alpha Protocol My misadventures on youtube.
Purkake Posted August 15, 2009 Posted August 15, 2009 From what I remember Dark Sun is a post-apocalyptic desert-ish setting where some kind of magical catastrophe destroyed the world. There's almost no magic, no gods, but lots of psionic stuff. They need to make a Spelljammer RPG.
GreasyDogMeat Posted August 15, 2009 Posted August 15, 2009 (edited) I'd be interested to see a Dark Sun CRPG. I've yet to get around to playing the Dark Sun DOS game from the 90s or it's sequel. Guess there was also a MMO but it was either not finished or failed massively. http://www.mobygames.com/game-group/dark-sun-series Edited August 15, 2009 by GreasyDogMeat
Zoma Posted August 15, 2009 Posted August 15, 2009 Sounds very highly probable it could be Obsidian's sekret projekt.
steelfiredragon Posted August 15, 2009 Posted August 15, 2009 dude I posted this in the pen and paper forum. this is the computer and console. wrong forum Strength through Mercy Head Torturor of the Cult of the Anti-gnome
Hurlshort Posted August 15, 2009 Posted August 15, 2009 Well, maybe they will make a PC game with the setting! Actually it one of the cooler settings out there, I'm glad to hear they are bringing it back into the spotlight.
steelfiredragon Posted August 15, 2009 Posted August 15, 2009 maybe they will, maybe they wont. anyway, it mentions coming to 4e, its still the wrong forum, so..... guess I need to go put the dogs out. anyway the topic needs to be chganged about how to go about one for 4e darksun, as of the moment, thre are no 4e games that I know of for anything.. right doggs outside. bye Strength through Mercy Head Torturor of the Cult of the Anti-gnome
EUIX Posted August 16, 2009 Posted August 16, 2009 There were two really old Dark Sun rpgs by SSI but beyond that nothing has been done in the setting for a long time. Love to see Dark Sun, I think the chief feature of Dark Sun is the extremely high difficulty level. "For ourselves, we shall not trouble you with specious pretences- either of how we have a right to our empire because we overthrew the Mede, or are now attacking you because of wrong that you have done us- and make a long speech which would not be believed; and in return we hope that you, instead of thinking to influence us by saying that you did not join the Lacedaemonians, although their colonists, or that you have done us no wrong, will aim at what is feasible, holding in view the real sentiments of us both; since you know as well as we do that right, as the world goes, is only in question between equals in power, while the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must."
Stephen Amber Posted August 21, 2009 Posted August 21, 2009 Cover art looks excellent. Doesn't look like Brom... They need to get Brom on board.
Amentep Posted August 29, 2009 Posted August 29, 2009 (edited) The original setting seemed to me to be a meat grinder for a DM to ring his players out of character ideas (I mean the game recommended having a character bank at start due to heavy loss of PC life). Edited August 29, 2009 by Amentep I cannot - yet I must. How do you calculate that? At what point on the graph do "must" and "cannot" meet? Yet I must - but I cannot! ~ Ro-Man
steelfiredragon Posted August 30, 2009 Posted August 30, 2009 It still might be that way. Strength through Mercy Head Torturor of the Cult of the Anti-gnome
Atom523 Posted August 31, 2009 Posted August 31, 2009 The original setting seemed to me to be a meat grinder for a DM to ring his players out of character ideas (I mean the game recommended having a character bank at start due to heavy loss of PC life). I have always hated games that seem to constantly intentionally try to kill off your characters. I shouldn't be constantly worried that all my hard work will come to an end. It was annoying in the Dark Sun video games but a few hours of attention can net you another character just as good, while in a P&P role playing game it will take you weeks if not months to regain what you have lost. I do hope that they don't go the same route in the new edition, it can be hard while not seemingly trying to punish the player for playing the game.
Monte Carlo Posted August 31, 2009 Posted August 31, 2009 Dark Sun is indeed an original and refreshing setting, it feels strange and forbidding and Mad Max-ish. Fallout fans might like it. Unfortunately, for many, 4E is irrevocably broken and has literally nothing to do with the Dungeons and Dragons game. You can't make filet mignon with a scrap of gristly chuck stake. Cheers MC
steelfiredragon Posted August 31, 2009 Posted August 31, 2009 that is true. well Mr. Baker is dev for Darksun at wotc. I like fallout, but not so much the idea of dark sun. Strength through Mercy Head Torturor of the Cult of the Anti-gnome
Amentep Posted August 31, 2009 Posted August 31, 2009 The original setting seemed to me to be a meat grinder for a DM to ring his players out of character ideas (I mean the game recommended having a character bank at start due to heavy loss of PC life). I have always hated games that seem to constantly intentionally try to kill off your characters. I shouldn't be constantly worried that all my hard work will come to an end. It was annoying in the Dark Sun video games but a few hours of attention can net you another character just as good, while in a P&P role playing game it will take you weeks if not months to regain what you have lost. I do hope that they don't go the same route in the new edition, it can be hard while not seemingly trying to punish the player for playing the game. That's how I felt about the Dark Sun setting. I mean I'm prone enough to dying as is, I don't need that much help from the setting. I cannot - yet I must. How do you calculate that? At what point on the graph do "must" and "cannot" meet? Yet I must - but I cannot! ~ Ro-Man
J.E. Sawyer Posted September 1, 2009 Posted September 1, 2009 Obsidian superstar Travis Stout did some of the writing for the new Dark Sun. twitter tyme
Zoma Posted September 3, 2009 Posted September 3, 2009 Obsidian superstar Travis Stout did some of the writing for the new Dark Sun. Super TEASE.
Morgoth Posted September 3, 2009 Posted September 3, 2009 So then, it's official: Obsidian is working on a Dark Sun game! Rain makes everything better.
steelfiredragon Posted September 3, 2009 Posted September 3, 2009 you may be an arch mage, but you failed your divination and since motive checks. Strength through Mercy Head Torturor of the Cult of the Anti-gnome
Raithe Posted October 22, 2009 Posted October 22, 2009 Tsk.. I liked Dark Sun.. The whole approach of "adventuring is dangerous, really, reallly dangerous" was a nice approach from the usual run of "oh, we went down the temple and got a raise dead" style that tended to come about in Forgotten Realms and the standard fantasy settings.. That and the whole "if a player can play a mage for 3 sessions without any of the other players realising he's a horrid arcane spell user.. then he's playing his character right" So... on the one hand Dark Sun = Good. On the other.. D&D 4th Ed = complete naffness (well, apart from the art. It's got super-shiney art). If only they'd brought Dark Sun back for 3.5.. <sigh> Although then it would have battled Eberron.... "Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum."
Darque Posted December 5, 2009 Posted December 5, 2009 Dark Sun was a good setting, unique at that. I think I'd prefer a 3.5 version to a 4E version though.
Magister Lajciak Posted December 8, 2009 Posted December 8, 2009 Dark Sun was a good setting, unique at that. I think I'd prefer a 3.5 version to a 4E version though. Dark Sun was my favorite official setting for D&D back in 2E AD&D days. It is an awesome setting, but as far as I am concerned and as an avid PnP fan, 4E is probably irredeemable at this stage - not even Dark Sun could get me to convert at this stage.
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