http://www.lucasartsbioware.com/ - Kotor MMO probably confirmed :(

[kirottu]

JE was good

 

For me the setting was shallow, story was shallow and combat was repetive. I couldn

[Tale]

I liked the story. Thought the setting was pretty shallow and gameplay was repetitive and shallow, though. You only have three stats, for crying out loud!

Edited October 30, 2007 by Tale

[Xard]

For me:

 

story = great

storytelling (although a bit too cinematic and linear for me) = good

setting = interesting but too shallow (or maybe I should say setting had/has great potential but execution was lackluster)

gameplay = repetitive

Edited October 30, 2007 by Xard

[Hurlshort]

Well, the game was only like 20 hours, so it can't be too repetitive

 

I enjoyed the story and characters. I definitely think the setting was incomplete, but Bioware has been using IP's for years and it's not easy to develop your own universe, particularly in a short time. Dragon Age has had a lot more development time, so I'm hoping the universe will be more fleshed out.

 

So bashing Bioware sure seems to be the popular flavor this year, even before the EA buyout. What's the deal?

[Xard]

Mass Effect *puke*

[Tale]

Well, the game was only like 20 hours, so it can't be too repetitive

 

I enjoyed the story and characters. I definitely think the setting was incomplete, but Bioware has been using IP's for years and it's not easy to develop your own universe, particularly in a short time. Dragon Age has had a lot more development time, so I'm hoping the universe will be more fleshed out.

 

So bashing Bioware sure seems to be the popular flavor this year, even before the EA buyout. What's the deal?

Because saying you dislike aspects of one product = bashing.

Edited October 30, 2007 by Tale

[Sand]

I think it is a little too early to say what it is. If it is a KotOR-MMO, how many people will that really effect? Not me in the slightest, that is for sure. Bioware will do what Bioware will do, regardless what the fans want or say. If you don't like something of theirs, don't buy it. If you are fed up in how they make games, don't buy them. If you are all hunky dory about Bioware, buy their games. Make a statement with your wallet. All this speculation one way or another is useless.

[kirottu]

All this speculation one way or another is useless.

 

I agree with Hades. I think we all should quit posting in this thread forever!

Edited October 30, 2007 by kirottu

[Sand]

[Meshugger]

There's already a "KotOR III: The MMORPG"-rumorthread at KotOR subforums, but to put the content aside, don't try to overanalyze pressreleases people. They are usually written without any substance to fall back to, the only rule is that you should not lie....too much.

 

But it is not unlikely that some genius back at Lucasarts discovered that their focus-groups complained about the lack of MP and co-op (=pod-people who once thought that Vanilla Ice was edgy and cool) were the sole dissapointments of the series and got the idea of "KotOR + MP = MMO" means double, no wait, tripple amount of sales.

 

And what are Bioware(EA), who sweared highly and mighty to never touch other IP's again, going to say about it? Not much really.

[WILL THE ALMIGHTY]

This doesn't prove a Kotor MMO at all... it doesn't even mention anything about star wars...

[Meshugger]

This doesn't prove a Kotor MMO at all... it doesn't even mention anything about star wars...

 

As i said, don't bother with these kind of announcements. Rumors about KotOR MMO have been for a while know, and this agreement just strengthens my suspicions. Even if it was something else, i would find it unlikely that Lucasarts would approach Bioware with something that wouldn't be Star Wars. Indiana Jones? Maybe, just maybe.

[Leferd]

I'll be shocked if it's not the Kotor MMORPG. Plus, I'd really like to see Obsidian develop K3.

[Volourn]

"One compound word: LucasArts

 

One other: KotoR Two

 

Bioware is not the Bioware from the BG era anymore. they have been sold, and now sold again. Their quality from the past can not be associated with this new entity. However, LA certainly does not a great track record when it comes to Q/A... thus IMO does not bode well."

 

BIO, and LA have teamed up before, and their partnership did rather well. It's too early in the purchase for EA to make any major changes to BIO's business practices. BIO's quality for their agmes has ONLY gotten better as the years pass by. Espicially role-playing wise.

 

 

P.S. JE > most BIO games.

[Sand]

I prefer Jade Empire over KotOR and NWN1, but beyond those two every other Bioware game that I have played has been better. Even MDK.

[Nick_i_am]

Make a statement with your wallet.

 

Irony bonus!

[Sand]

How is that irony? You like something, buy it. You don't like something, don't buy it.

[Xard]

Irony Bonus x3

[Sand]

[alanschu]

Hmmm, if it is a KOTOR MMO, I'm still interested!

[Sand]

Bioware has two strikes against it now for this game. 1) They are part of EA. I don't buy EA games, either developed internally or published. 2) Its a MMO. The only MMO I got into was Guild Wars, mostly for the no monthly fees. When I buy a game I shouldn't have to pay to play it afterwards.

[Tale]

2) Its a MMO. The only MMO I got into was Guild Wars, mostly for the no monthly fees. When I buy a game I shouldn't have to pay to play it afterwards.

You speak that like it's fact. It's loose speculation based upon two things:

1) Bioware has an MMO studio.

2) They want to play a new MMO.

 

Neither of which is decisive evidence. Neither of which makes the rumor significantly above baseless.

Edited November 1, 2007 by Tale

[Zoma]

I doubt I will touch another KOTOR series moulded from Bioware's hands again after playing KOTOR2 as I am now reaffirmed(After KOTOR2 and MotB), that Obsidian's manner of telling an RPG story is much more fitting to my taste.

 

As for MMO, good news for those who had been waiting for it for years I guess.

[jaguars4ever]

I love it how people who vow never to touch a game are always the first to pre-order it.

[Pop]

I doubt I will touch another KOTOR series moulded from Bioware's hands again after playing KOTOR2 as I am now reaffirmed(After KOTOR2 and MotB), that Obsidian's manner of telling an RPG story is much more fitting to my taste.

In general I might be inclined to agree with you. Obsidian at least attempts stranger, more cerebral games. But when Bioware's on (and who knows, they might not be on anymore, although I'm not as quick to dismiss them as most people, it seems) they make merely above-average games that are propulsive and fairly engaging (JE was a sad exception) and I'm no Codex academic, so a fairly inauspicious-in-the-grand-scheme-of-things game like KOTOR can still be fun for me.

 

Let's face it, the market for western RPGs (not counting hack-n-slash and MMOs) is pretty scant, and as far as I'm concerned beggars can't be choosy. I've no problem shunning companies like Lionhead for making inexorably bad games, but only accepting the "stunningly progressive" games at this point and rejecting softened releases from the still-not-totally-bad Bioware would leave me starving, metaphorically. That's not something that I can do. That's not to say that Bioware isn't losing its edge, it's just saying I'm not a masochist. Quite frankly, reducing myself to waiting around for Obsidian's next product isn't a great idea, because I've no guarantee that even a few years wait is going to be worth it. I don't want to become NMA, waiting for games that are never going to be made, having standards that are never going to be met. That's no better than swearing off games forever, and games are too much of a part of me that I could actually consider that.

Edited November 1, 2007 by Pop