kirottu Posted April 23, 2006 Share Posted April 23, 2006 I'll be waiting regardless... I never get a game until after the first patch is released... well excluding console games of course. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Bulock or Chapman said that there This post is not to be enjoyed, discussed, or referenced on company time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Raven Posted April 23, 2006 Share Posted April 23, 2006 Hades has been Metowned " <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hades is getting owned a lot lately. He should have quit when he was ahead. Hades was the life of the party. RIP You'll be missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Hades Posted April 23, 2006 Share Posted April 23, 2006 Hades has been Metowned " <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hades is getting owned a lot lately. He should have quit when he was ahead. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Like it matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karka Posted April 23, 2006 Share Posted April 23, 2006 (edited) The words people and persons are not used in exactly the same way. People is by far the commoner and is used in most ordinary contexts: a group of people; several thousand people have been rehoused. Persons, on the other hand, tends now to be restricted to official or formal contexts, as in this vehicle is authorized to carry twenty persons. I really suck at English. Edited April 23, 2006 by karka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirottu Posted April 23, 2006 Share Posted April 23, 2006 You cannot own Hades. You can only marry him, girls. *wink wink* This post is not to be enjoyed, discussed, or referenced on company time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BicycleOfDeath Posted April 23, 2006 Share Posted April 23, 2006 True. If he doesn't like the game and wishes to judge it's purchase on inaccurate information*, that's fine by me. It's not going to effect my enjoyment of it. *According to Mr. Sawyer. Stand Your Convictions and You Will Walk Alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Raven Posted April 23, 2006 Share Posted April 23, 2006 Hades has been Metowned " <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hades is getting owned a lot lately. He should have quit when he was ahead. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Like it matters. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It does, because soon you will start having a tantrum. Hades was the life of the party. RIP You'll be missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassat Hunter Posted April 23, 2006 Share Posted April 23, 2006 (edited) as much as many thinks the nwn oc sucked, the nwn oc is the primary reason nwn sold over 2 million copies. is not like Gromnir were a fan of the nwn oc, though it weren't as terrible as some suggest... it were still pretty disappointing. in any event, and we feels the need to repeat this yet again, nwn sold +2 million copies and over 90% of purchasers never used any mp features or the toolset. 2 million copies sold is not a failure.... no matter how bad some thinks the oc sucked. How many copies did Black&White sell. How many of these where due to the name Peter Molyneux? How many gamers where dissapointed? I know alot of people who own Black&White, yet NONE like the game a bit... No, Atari. We can not blame the great Obsidian. Brainwash detected. Possible cure: 100 hours of Daikatana. That will fix "grandeur issues" or so I heard... When I buy a game I buy it based on what the developer puts into it, not mods. I didn't buy BG for Dark Side of the Sword Coast, I didn't buy Neverwinter Nights for Dreamcatcher, and I am not going to buy Neverwinter Nights 2 for any mod. Agreed. If there is NOTHING in the game from the devs what makes me buy the game, only the community created stuff why give out $50 to those Devs? Rather wait till the price dropped; there is a clear list of "good mods (help seperate the crap from the *must play*" and the issues in the game are fixed then... EDIT: Oh noes... fast filled 10 pages. Wouldn't it be time to lock it and open part II and fill that one in 1 hour too? Edited April 23, 2006 by Hassat Hunter ^ I agree that that is such a stupid idiotic pathetic garbage hateful retarded scumbag evil satanic nazi like term ever created. At least top 5. TSLRCM Official Forum || TSLRCM Moddb || My other KOTOR2 mods || TSLRCM (English version) on Steam || [M4-78EP on Steam Formerly known as BattleWookiee/BattleCookiee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darque Posted April 23, 2006 Share Posted April 23, 2006 What about games patched at release i.e. v1.1 gets shipped? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'd still wait a week just to see some first impressions. Bulock or Chapman said that there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Raven Posted April 23, 2006 Share Posted April 23, 2006 I'll be waiting regardless... I never get a game until after the first patch is released... well excluding console games of course. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Bulock or Chapman said that there Hades was the life of the party. RIP You'll be missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromnir Posted April 23, 2006 Share Posted April 23, 2006 (edited) In any case 20 hours is short for a CRPG. People are saying that shorter games are the norm now and I agree, but that doesn't mean that the norm doesn't suck. Bottomline the question we have here is a 20 hour CRPG worth $50? In my opinion it is not. Especially if that game is going to follow the same route of leveling as its predecessor where people were reaching max level a good time before the game 's end. 20 levels in 20 hours is stupid, plain and simple. There is no excuse for it. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'll be waiting regardless... I never get a game until after the first patch is released... well excluding console games of course. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> good for you. makes you a more enlightened consumer than most. as for GD and his question 'bout whether we believe the bio numbers that put the non-oc applications at something less than 10%... am not sure, but we wonders why the biowarians would undervalue their sp download numbers. how would that benefit bioware? "How many copies did Black&White sell. How many of these where due to the name Peter Molyneux? How many gamers where dissapointed? I know alot of people who own Black&White, yet NONE like the game a bit..." b&w did not sell over 2 million copies... and regardless, you and others keep ignoring the succesful expansions that nwn spawned. if nwn were as hated as you thinks, then why were the expansions good sellers? HA! Good Fun! Edited April 23, 2006 by Gromnir "If there be time to expose through discussion the falsehood and fallacies, to avert the evil by the processes of education, the remedy to be applied is more speech, not enforced silence."Justice Louis Brandeis, Concurring, Whitney v. California, 274 U.S. 357 (1927) "Im indifferent to almost any murder as long as it doesn't affect me or mine."--Gfted1 (September 30, 2019) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Raven Posted April 23, 2006 Share Posted April 23, 2006 No, Atari. We can not blame the great Obsidian. Brainwash detected. Possible cure: 100 hours of Daikatana. That will fix "grandeur issues" or so I heard... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> We are fanatical, what can I say? Hades was the life of the party. RIP You'll be missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Hades Posted April 23, 2006 Share Posted April 23, 2006 (edited) It does, because soon you will start having a tantrum. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> This issue isn't important enough. A person will either buy the game or not buy the game and I already said I plan on buying the game. When it hits the bargin bin. Besides, I am too tired to bother. Edited April 23, 2006 by Judge Hades Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirottu Posted April 23, 2006 Share Posted April 23, 2006 Bulock or Chapman said that there This post is not to be enjoyed, discussed, or referenced on company time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassat Hunter Posted April 23, 2006 Share Posted April 23, 2006 That is good, it means it should be near bugless on release. 25 doesn't really looks like alot to me. Especially if that is QA at Obsidian AND Atari. Good thing that near the end of development entire squads are going in (or so I hope... *shivers*Kotor2, Vampire, Dungeon Siege2*shivers* ^ I agree that that is such a stupid idiotic pathetic garbage hateful retarded scumbag evil satanic nazi like term ever created. At least top 5. TSLRCM Official Forum || TSLRCM Moddb || My other KOTOR2 mods || TSLRCM (English version) on Steam || [M4-78EP on Steam Formerly known as BattleWookiee/BattleCookiee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Hades Posted April 23, 2006 Share Posted April 23, 2006 Well, the game won't be out til September anyway so they have plenty of time to do the bug swatting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirottu Posted April 23, 2006 Share Posted April 23, 2006 Especially if that is QA at Obsidian AND Atari. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No, only Obsidian This post is not to be enjoyed, discussed, or referenced on company time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bokishi Posted April 23, 2006 Share Posted April 23, 2006 Bugged games are teh suck, ya rly. Current 3DMark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassat Hunter Posted April 23, 2006 Share Posted April 23, 2006 We are fanatical, what can I say? We? And there is also something as too fanatical... Radical... ^ I agree that that is such a stupid idiotic pathetic garbage hateful retarded scumbag evil satanic nazi like term ever created. At least top 5. TSLRCM Official Forum || TSLRCM Moddb || My other KOTOR2 mods || TSLRCM (English version) on Steam || [M4-78EP on Steam Formerly known as BattleWookiee/BattleCookiee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darque Posted April 23, 2006 Share Posted April 23, 2006 Bulock or Chapman said that there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Raven Posted April 23, 2006 Share Posted April 23, 2006 Bugged games are teh suck, ya rly. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That they are my little Hutt. Hades was the life of the party. RIP You'll be missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromnir Posted April 23, 2006 Share Posted April 23, 2006 Well, the game won't be out til September anyway so they have plenty of time to do the bug swatting. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> maybe they should wait until christmas... or later. give themselves some more time to replace some of that deleted material. HA! Good Fun! "If there be time to expose through discussion the falsehood and fallacies, to avert the evil by the processes of education, the remedy to be applied is more speech, not enforced silence."Justice Louis Brandeis, Concurring, Whitney v. California, 274 U.S. 357 (1927) "Im indifferent to almost any murder as long as it doesn't affect me or mine."--Gfted1 (September 30, 2019) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassat Hunter Posted April 23, 2006 Share Posted April 23, 2006 Well, the game won't be out til September anyway so they have plenty of time to do the bug swatting. New code brings new bugs. Fixing old bugs can bring new bugs (Proof: 1.0B). that is usually WHY there is more QA at the end than at the begin... because even if you get it bugproof in Alpha you can be sure of ALOT of new ones in Beta... No, only Obsidian ^ I agree that that is such a stupid idiotic pathetic garbage hateful retarded scumbag evil satanic nazi like term ever created. At least top 5. TSLRCM Official Forum || TSLRCM Moddb || My other KOTOR2 mods || TSLRCM (English version) on Steam || [M4-78EP on Steam Formerly known as BattleWookiee/BattleCookiee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guard Dog Posted April 23, 2006 Share Posted April 23, 2006 as for GD and his question 'bout whether we believe the bio numbers that put the non-oc applications at something less than 10%... am not sure, but we wonders why the biowarians would undervalue their sp download numbers. how would that benefit bioware? HA! Good Fun! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Does not matter. There is no way for them to track it. Maybe less than 10% bought premuim mods but the sites that hosted user made modules\haks had no affilitaion with Bioware and therefore there is no way to know what percentage of gamers made use of custom made content. The CEP alone had more than a million downloads. It is an untrackable metric and whoever said it was whistling in the wind. Yes, they were guessing, as I am and I'd say I'm probably closer to being right. "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Raven Posted April 23, 2006 Share Posted April 23, 2006 We are fanatical, what can I say? We? And there is also something as too fanatical... Radical... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> We= Me, myself and I. And the spirits frend! They are all around! One can never be too much of a fan. Hades was the life of the party. RIP You'll be missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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