Ukraine Conflict - conflict continues

[Mamoulian War]

37 minutes ago, Lexx said:

I'm still skeptical. All he talks about is replacing the russian military command and stuff like that. This is all he seems to worry about. In the short term this chaos is likely good for ukraine, but in the long term this could be not so good (if he succeeds and russian command will become more competent).

There is something in between Putin and Prigozhin. Both of them still refrain to name their counterparts in their speeches. Putin was talking only about betrayal, not about Prigozhin.

[Gorth]

20 minutes ago, BruceVC said:

Small steps, any additional fraction and weakening of the Russian military is a good thing and thats what this development is at the moment 

Never underestimate the trouble that could arise from replacing an incompetent overall army command with an at least semi-competent one.

[HoonDing]

Obviously a coup/civil war in a country with 10,000 nukes is of great benefit to the west.

[BruceVC]

1 minute ago, HoonDing said:

Obviously a coup/civil war in a country with 10,000 nukes is of great benefit to the west.

Not worried at all because its almost impossible to believe either side would use Nukes within Russia and its not  like Wagner has any access to them 

[Mamoulian War]

@Lexx anyway, when looking at the information from Russia it is always required to be sceptical at least. In the end, considering the Russian history, this still could be a perverse Ukraine Exit Strategy, during which, every officer, politician and oligarch joining Wagner will be sooner or later eliminated, then after few months Prigozhin “flees” to Africa, and then Putin victoriously announces another “free and democratic” presidential elections

[Gorgon]

I dunno, i kinda think the army decided to solve their problems with an artillery strike.  

[Mamoulian War]

In the meanwhile, Commander of the Ukrainian drone fleet on the front.

 

[Gorgon]

57 minutes ago, BruceVC said:

Not worried at all because its almost impossible to believe either side would use Nukes within Russia and its not  like Wagner has any access to them 

what about a few being sold of to god knows who

[pmp10]

2 hours ago, Mamoulian War said:

There is something in between Putin and Prigozhin. Both of them still refrain to name their counterparts in their speeches. Putin was talking only about betrayal, not about Prigozhin.

Putin does that with potential enemies.
He never referred to Navalny by his name either. 

[BruceVC]

1 hour ago, Gorgon said:

what about a few being sold of to god knows who

Im not remotely concerned about that because its getting ahead of ourselves

If Wagner doesnt get support from other Russian military groups I think this rebellion will be over in 7 days 

 

[Malcador]

3 hours ago, HoonDing said:

Obviously a coup/civil war in a country with 10,000 nukes is of great benefit to the west.

There's a surprising amount of people that think it is.

 

[Mamoulian War]

8 minutes ago, Malcador said:

There's a surprising amount of people that think it is.

 

You are forgetting, that this already happened at least once. And we are still here

[Mamoulian War]

And during the chaos, two noteworthy things happened. 

Belarusian rebels want to use this opportunity as well, now that the Russian army is to busy.
 

And Russian army started to solve this issue the typical Russian way. Blowing up random civilians...
 

[bugarup]

I wonder if tater king is on that personal plane of his that suddenly and unexpectedly landed in Turkey (a member of dastardly NATO).

[kanisatha]

6 hours ago, Mamoulian War said:

Prigozhin claims to have two Airfields under full control. Milerovo and Rostov on Don. At Voronezh 300 Russian border guards allegedly surrendered to Wagner. Putin has spoken in Russian TV, speaking that he will not allow 1917 to repeat

Interesting. If true then Prigozhin could have himeself an airforce now. Milerovo is home to a full regiment of Su-30s, and Voronezh has a regiment of Su-34 bombers.

[Lexx]

It's like russian military just can't not shoot civilians.

[Malcador]

1 hour ago, Mamoulian War said:

You are forgetting, that this already happened at least once. And we are still here

Hence it's a risk, unless you think it not happening once means it won't happen anytime in the future. Point was why be glad to roll dice on it.

[Malcador]

1 hour ago, Mamoulian War said:

And Russian army started to solve this issue the typical Russian way. Blowing up random civilians...

Wagner convoy had regular vehicles, no ?

[Gromnir]

5 hours ago, HoonDing said:

Obviously a coup/civil war in a country with 10,000 nukes is of great benefit to the west.

now you are sudden worried about russian nukes? rich.

HA! Good Fun!

 

 

[Malcador]

Wonder if some nukes did get loose, what would be potential targets.

 

 

[Sarex]

Chechen troops going in to Russia to fight against Russian separatist. We have come full circle. If this whole sordid affair wasn't sad it would be funny...

[Pidesco]

Any basis for this?

[Sarex]

8 minutes ago, Pidesco said:

Any basis for this?

No. But then again that goes for 90% of stuff posted here.

[Malcador]

43 minutes ago, Sarex said:

No. But then again that goes for 90% of stuff posted here.

Only if pro-The Good Guys.  Someone will post someone (I predict Galeev) saying Russia will break up in 3 days.

Chechens I guess. Edit : nope, I guess, apparently it was some guy shooting at a door?

Edited June 24, 2023 by Malcador

[Malcador]

BBC reporting Prigozhin now telling his troops to stop advancing on Moscow.

Weird.