Mamoulian War Posted July 23, 2022 Author Posted July 23, 2022 And another example today, why any deal with Russia is just a waste of paper, ink and time. Just a single day after signing the grain export deal, Russia bombed the Odessa grain terminals with Kalibr missiles 2 1 2 Sent from my Stone Tablet, using Chisel-a-Talk 2000BC. My youtube channel: MamoulianFH Latest Let's Play Tales of Arise (completed) Latest Bossfight Compilation Dark Souls Remastered - New Game (completed) Let's Play/AAR Europa Universalis 1: Austria Grand Campaign (completed) Let's Play/AAR Europa Universalis 2: Xhosa Grand Campaign (completed) My PS Platinums and 100% - 29 games so far (my PSN profile) 1) God of War III - PS3 - 24+ hours 2) Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 130+ hours 3) White Knight Chronicles International Edition - PS3 - 525+ hours 4) Hyperdimension Neptunia - PS3 - 80+ hours 5) Final Fantasy XIII-2 - PS3 - 200+ hours 6) Tales of Xillia - PS3 - 135+ hours 7) Hyperdimension Neptunia mk2 - PS3 - 152+ hours 8.) Grand Turismo 6 - PS3 - 81+ hours (including Senna Master DLC) 9) Demon's Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours 10) Tales of Graces f - PS3 - 337+ hours 11) Star Ocean: The Last Hope International - PS3 - 750+ hours 12) Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 127+ hours 13) Soulcalibur V - PS3 - 73+ hours 14) Gran Turismo 5 - PS3 - 600+ hours 15) Tales of Xillia 2 - PS3 - 302+ hours 16) Mortal Kombat XL - PS4 - 95+ hours 17) Project CARS Game of the Year Edition - PS4 - 120+ hours 18) Dark Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours 19) Hyperdimension Neptunia Victory - PS3 - 238+ hours 20) Final Fantasy Type-0 - PS4 - 58+ hours 21) Journey - PS4 - 9+ hours 22) Dark Souls II - PS3 - 210+ hours 23) Fairy Fencer F - PS3 - 215+ hours 24) Megadimension Neptunia VII - PS4 - 160 hours 25) Super Neptunia RPG - PS4 - 44+ hours 26) Journey - PS3 - 22+ hours 27) Final Fantasy XV - PS4 - 263+ hours (including all DLCs) 28) Tales of Arise - PS4 - 111+ hours 29) Dark Souls: Remastered - PS4 - 121+ hours
bugarup Posted July 23, 2022 Posted July 23, 2022 Orcs are making a propaganda film about "liberation" of Mariupol. Which, if you ignore words (in short, they sound utterly believing they are good guys and all that death and destruction they bring is for the greater good), actually looks like very well filmed and rather damning evidence (and it'll probably become this in the next Nurnberg). Not too keen on translating it because I had to shut the computer and go outside for a calming walk after watching it, can do if needed, but video track can kind of speak for itself well enough, I think. https://youtu.be/tDlBJsQ_7TQ 1
Malcador Posted July 23, 2022 Posted July 23, 2022 https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/23/world/europe/ukraine-russia-odesa-grain-attack.html Not clear what was hit or the target. Interesting how powerful the explosion was. Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
BruceVC Posted July 24, 2022 Posted July 24, 2022 https://english.alarabiya.net/News/gulf/2022/07/23/Saudi-Arabia-Iraq-come-to-the-aid-of-Europe-s-oil-refiners-amid-Ukraine-war Its good to see the Saudis assisting the EU to end all dependence on Russian energy and not surprising considering the Iranian " friendship " with Russia "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela
Mamoulian War Posted July 24, 2022 Author Posted July 24, 2022 Another high profile target was hit yesterday. UA informators and partisans are sharing very valuable info. 5 Sent from my Stone Tablet, using Chisel-a-Talk 2000BC. My youtube channel: MamoulianFH Latest Let's Play Tales of Arise (completed) Latest Bossfight Compilation Dark Souls Remastered - New Game (completed) Let's Play/AAR Europa Universalis 1: Austria Grand Campaign (completed) Let's Play/AAR Europa Universalis 2: Xhosa Grand Campaign (completed) My PS Platinums and 100% - 29 games so far (my PSN profile) 1) God of War III - PS3 - 24+ hours 2) Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 130+ hours 3) White Knight Chronicles International Edition - PS3 - 525+ hours 4) Hyperdimension Neptunia - PS3 - 80+ hours 5) Final Fantasy XIII-2 - PS3 - 200+ hours 6) Tales of Xillia - PS3 - 135+ hours 7) Hyperdimension Neptunia mk2 - PS3 - 152+ hours 8.) Grand Turismo 6 - PS3 - 81+ hours (including Senna Master DLC) 9) Demon's Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours 10) Tales of Graces f - PS3 - 337+ hours 11) Star Ocean: The Last Hope International - PS3 - 750+ hours 12) Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 127+ hours 13) Soulcalibur V - PS3 - 73+ hours 14) Gran Turismo 5 - PS3 - 600+ hours 15) Tales of Xillia 2 - PS3 - 302+ hours 16) Mortal Kombat XL - PS4 - 95+ hours 17) Project CARS Game of the Year Edition - PS4 - 120+ hours 18) Dark Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours 19) Hyperdimension Neptunia Victory - PS3 - 238+ hours 20) Final Fantasy Type-0 - PS4 - 58+ hours 21) Journey - PS4 - 9+ hours 22) Dark Souls II - PS3 - 210+ hours 23) Fairy Fencer F - PS3 - 215+ hours 24) Megadimension Neptunia VII - PS4 - 160 hours 25) Super Neptunia RPG - PS4 - 44+ hours 26) Journey - PS3 - 22+ hours 27) Final Fantasy XV - PS4 - 263+ hours (including all DLCs) 28) Tales of Arise - PS4 - 111+ hours 29) Dark Souls: Remastered - PS4 - 121+ hours
kanisatha Posted July 24, 2022 Posted July 24, 2022 7 hours ago, Mamoulian War said: Another high profile target was hit yesterday. UA informators and partisans are sharing very valuable info. https://www.newsweek.com/ukraine-himars-destroy-high-value-russian-targets-1727253 1 1
pmp10 Posted July 25, 2022 Posted July 25, 2022 First German Gepard anti-aircraft units arrive in Ukraine.Coincidentally gazprom is about to further cut gas-flow to Germany. It's almost as if it was never about that turbine. 1
BruceVC Posted July 25, 2022 Posted July 25, 2022 46 minutes ago, pmp10 said: First German Gepard anti-aircraft units arrive in Ukraine.Coincidentally gazprom is about to further cut gas-flow to Germany. It's almost as if it was never about that turbine. We mustnt be in any doubt that Putin wants to impact the EU gas storage for winter. Thats why the EU must get as much gas as possible 1 "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela
Mamoulian War Posted July 26, 2022 Author Posted July 26, 2022 15 hours ago, pmp10 said: First German Gepard anti-aircraft units arrive in Ukraine.Coincidentally gazprom is about to further cut gas-flow to Germany. It's almost as if it was never about that turbine. Of course it never was, it was just a Russian scapegoat to move the blame from themselves. As always... 4 Sent from my Stone Tablet, using Chisel-a-Talk 2000BC. My youtube channel: MamoulianFH Latest Let's Play Tales of Arise (completed) Latest Bossfight Compilation Dark Souls Remastered - New Game (completed) Let's Play/AAR Europa Universalis 1: Austria Grand Campaign (completed) Let's Play/AAR Europa Universalis 2: Xhosa Grand Campaign (completed) My PS Platinums and 100% - 29 games so far (my PSN profile) 1) God of War III - PS3 - 24+ hours 2) Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 130+ hours 3) White Knight Chronicles International Edition - PS3 - 525+ hours 4) Hyperdimension Neptunia - PS3 - 80+ hours 5) Final Fantasy XIII-2 - PS3 - 200+ hours 6) Tales of Xillia - PS3 - 135+ hours 7) Hyperdimension Neptunia mk2 - PS3 - 152+ hours 8.) Grand Turismo 6 - PS3 - 81+ hours (including Senna Master DLC) 9) Demon's Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours 10) Tales of Graces f - PS3 - 337+ hours 11) Star Ocean: The Last Hope International - PS3 - 750+ hours 12) Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 127+ hours 13) Soulcalibur V - PS3 - 73+ hours 14) Gran Turismo 5 - PS3 - 600+ hours 15) Tales of Xillia 2 - PS3 - 302+ hours 16) Mortal Kombat XL - PS4 - 95+ hours 17) Project CARS Game of the Year Edition - PS4 - 120+ hours 18) Dark Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours 19) Hyperdimension Neptunia Victory - PS3 - 238+ hours 20) Final Fantasy Type-0 - PS4 - 58+ hours 21) Journey - PS4 - 9+ hours 22) Dark Souls II - PS3 - 210+ hours 23) Fairy Fencer F - PS3 - 215+ hours 24) Megadimension Neptunia VII - PS4 - 160 hours 25) Super Neptunia RPG - PS4 - 44+ hours 26) Journey - PS3 - 22+ hours 27) Final Fantasy XV - PS4 - 263+ hours (including all DLCs) 28) Tales of Arise - PS4 - 111+ hours 29) Dark Souls: Remastered - PS4 - 121+ hours
Mamoulian War Posted July 28, 2022 Author Posted July 28, 2022 (edited) The only people I hear screaming, are the trolls like you when they are reading all day long, how many orcs were put to sleep again and again after HIMARS o’clock Especially when their group travelled more than 6000 kms to reap what they saw Edited July 28, 2022 by Mamoulian War 4 Sent from my Stone Tablet, using Chisel-a-Talk 2000BC. My youtube channel: MamoulianFH Latest Let's Play Tales of Arise (completed) Latest Bossfight Compilation Dark Souls Remastered - New Game (completed) Let's Play/AAR Europa Universalis 1: Austria Grand Campaign (completed) Let's Play/AAR Europa Universalis 2: Xhosa Grand Campaign (completed) My PS Platinums and 100% - 29 games so far (my PSN profile) 1) God of War III - PS3 - 24+ hours 2) Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 130+ hours 3) White Knight Chronicles International Edition - PS3 - 525+ hours 4) Hyperdimension Neptunia - PS3 - 80+ hours 5) Final Fantasy XIII-2 - PS3 - 200+ hours 6) Tales of Xillia - PS3 - 135+ hours 7) Hyperdimension Neptunia mk2 - PS3 - 152+ hours 8.) Grand Turismo 6 - PS3 - 81+ hours (including Senna Master DLC) 9) Demon's Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours 10) Tales of Graces f - PS3 - 337+ hours 11) Star Ocean: The Last Hope International - PS3 - 750+ hours 12) Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 127+ hours 13) Soulcalibur V - PS3 - 73+ hours 14) Gran Turismo 5 - PS3 - 600+ hours 15) Tales of Xillia 2 - PS3 - 302+ hours 16) Mortal Kombat XL - PS4 - 95+ hours 17) Project CARS Game of the Year Edition - PS4 - 120+ hours 18) Dark Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours 19) Hyperdimension Neptunia Victory - PS3 - 238+ hours 20) Final Fantasy Type-0 - PS4 - 58+ hours 21) Journey - PS4 - 9+ hours 22) Dark Souls II - PS3 - 210+ hours 23) Fairy Fencer F - PS3 - 215+ hours 24) Megadimension Neptunia VII - PS4 - 160 hours 25) Super Neptunia RPG - PS4 - 44+ hours 26) Journey - PS3 - 22+ hours 27) Final Fantasy XV - PS4 - 263+ hours (including all DLCs) 28) Tales of Arise - PS4 - 111+ hours 29) Dark Souls: Remastered - PS4 - 121+ hours
Mamoulian War Posted July 28, 2022 Author Posted July 28, 2022 (edited) Meanwhile in Russia You know, that your army is in deep ****, when some units give you an opportunity to become lieutenant in 4 months Edited July 28, 2022 by Mamoulian War 3 Sent from my Stone Tablet, using Chisel-a-Talk 2000BC. My youtube channel: MamoulianFH Latest Let's Play Tales of Arise (completed) Latest Bossfight Compilation Dark Souls Remastered - New Game (completed) Let's Play/AAR Europa Universalis 1: Austria Grand Campaign (completed) Let's Play/AAR Europa Universalis 2: Xhosa Grand Campaign (completed) My PS Platinums and 100% - 29 games so far (my PSN profile) 1) God of War III - PS3 - 24+ hours 2) Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 130+ hours 3) White Knight Chronicles International Edition - PS3 - 525+ hours 4) Hyperdimension Neptunia - PS3 - 80+ hours 5) Final Fantasy XIII-2 - PS3 - 200+ hours 6) Tales of Xillia - PS3 - 135+ hours 7) Hyperdimension Neptunia mk2 - PS3 - 152+ hours 8.) Grand Turismo 6 - PS3 - 81+ hours (including Senna Master DLC) 9) Demon's Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours 10) Tales of Graces f - PS3 - 337+ hours 11) Star Ocean: The Last Hope International - PS3 - 750+ hours 12) Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 127+ hours 13) Soulcalibur V - PS3 - 73+ hours 14) Gran Turismo 5 - PS3 - 600+ hours 15) Tales of Xillia 2 - PS3 - 302+ hours 16) Mortal Kombat XL - PS4 - 95+ hours 17) Project CARS Game of the Year Edition - PS4 - 120+ hours 18) Dark Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours 19) Hyperdimension Neptunia Victory - PS3 - 238+ hours 20) Final Fantasy Type-0 - PS4 - 58+ hours 21) Journey - PS4 - 9+ hours 22) Dark Souls II - PS3 - 210+ hours 23) Fairy Fencer F - PS3 - 215+ hours 24) Megadimension Neptunia VII - PS4 - 160 hours 25) Super Neptunia RPG - PS4 - 44+ hours 26) Journey - PS3 - 22+ hours 27) Final Fantasy XV - PS4 - 263+ hours (including all DLCs) 28) Tales of Arise - PS4 - 111+ hours 29) Dark Souls: Remastered - PS4 - 121+ hours
BruceVC Posted July 28, 2022 Posted July 28, 2022 25 minutes ago, Mamoulian War said: The only people I hear screaming, are the trolls like you when they are reading all day long, how many orcs were put to sleep again and again after HIMARS o’clock Especially when their group travelled more than 6000 kms to reap what they saw Mamie dont take the bait with Comrade unless you want to. You know he is not being serious and is trolling But I like these silly debates with Comrade if I have time because they entertaining "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela
xzar_monty Posted July 28, 2022 Posted July 28, 2022 7 hours ago, ComradeYellow said: You know that terrible sound people make when they're slowly but surely dying? That awful utmost pity inducing wail of the reversal of the life process? That's the sound I hear from all these anti Russians, clinging to a desperate hope that the tide can somehow be reversed and cannot accept the fact that the world is changing in big ways. Stay tuned for 2024, we're just getting started here This is @ComradeYellowopenly rejoicing in the killing of people. To the extent that this forum has any rules in place at all, this must surely be a violation gross enough to merit a permanent ban. Surely. In fact, an indignant moderator already told me that this user had been banned, but clearly that's not true. 2
xzar_monty Posted July 28, 2022 Posted July 28, 2022 Please, good people, do not do this. Even for propagand purposes, this is remarkably foolish: 3
xzar_monty Posted July 28, 2022 Posted July 28, 2022 I am not sure how realiable this is, but for the technologically oriented people: provided that this is true, shouldn't this bomber be extremely easy to locate if it uses GPS like this? https://twitter.com/KreusHarri/status/1552365144830877696/photo/1
BruceVC Posted July 28, 2022 Posted July 28, 2022 1 hour ago, xzar_monty said: This is @ComradeYellowopenly rejoicing in the killing of people. To the extent that this forum has any rules in place at all, this must surely be a violation gross enough to merit a permanent ban. Surely. In fact, an indignant moderator already told me that this user had been banned, but clearly that's not true. The danger is taking anything Comrade says seriously, hes like hoonding But Comrades post could be argued its a metaphor about the dying of anti-Russian\Putin hegemony and sentiment, he is not actually celebrating the deaths of people ? But yes there is a policy that @Gorth follows about people celebrating the deaths of people on either side "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela
Zoraptor Posted July 28, 2022 Posted July 28, 2022 1 hour ago, xzar_monty said: This is @ComradeYellowopenly rejoicing in the killing of people. To the extent that this forum has any rules in place at all, this must surely be a violation gross enough to merit a permanent ban. Surely. In fact, an indignant moderator already told me that this user had been banned, but clearly that's not true. ComradeYellow may be a bit of a numpty, but as Bruce says that's about as metaphorical as it's possible to get, and obviously not literal. It definitely isn't him rejoicing in the death of people in the last few posts. 1 hour ago, xzar_monty said: I am not sure how realiable this is, but for the technologically oriented people: provided that this is true, shouldn't this bomber be extremely easy to locate if it uses GPS like this? https://twitter.com/KreusHarri/status/1552365144830877696/photo/1 That's not how GPS works. A GPS receiver only receives a signal. It then decodes it and gives you position on a map. It doesn't send data back. You can broadcast/ narrowcast/ send your position somewhere else having decoded the signal, but it isn't obligatory. As one of the replies says, it's very likely to be a back up system anyway.
Malcador Posted July 28, 2022 Posted July 28, 2022 Multi-posting, multi-posting never changes. If we're going to whine and play backseat mod, anyway. Thinking on this, it is also a great time to just murder someone you didn't like. 3 Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
Sarex Posted July 28, 2022 Posted July 28, 2022 @Malcador No, no, for those peoples death it's ok to express joy and celebrate. 1 1 1 "because they filled mommy with enough mythic power to become a demi-god" - KP
PK htiw klaw eriF Posted July 28, 2022 Posted July 28, 2022 55 minutes ago, Sarex said: @Malcador No, no, for those peoples death it's ok to express joy and celebrate. You know that terrible sound people make when they're slowly but surely dying? That awful utmost pity inducing wail of the reversal of the life process? That's the sound I hear from all these anti kawaiis, clinging to a desperate hope that the tide can somehow be reversed and cannot accept the fact that the world is changing in big ways. Stay tuned for 2024, we're just getting started here 1 2 "Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic "you're a damned filthy lying robot and you deserve to die and burn in hell." - Bartimaeus "Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander "Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador "You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort "thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex "Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock "Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco "we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii "I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing "feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth "Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi "Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor "I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine "I love cheese despite the pain and carnage." - ShadySands
Hurlshort Posted July 28, 2022 Posted July 28, 2022 I don't actually know that sound and I would recommend therapy for people that do. 2 1
majestic Posted July 28, 2022 Posted July 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Hurlsnot said: I don't actually know that sound and I would recommend therapy for people that do. Surly there must be a curriculum for that ? 1 No mind to think. No will to break. No voice to cry suffering.
PK htiw klaw eriF Posted July 28, 2022 Posted July 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, Hurlsnot said: I don't actually know that sound and I would recommend therapy for people that do. I can't afford therapy, so I just power through the pain of living in the dystopian timeline with insincere ****posting to cope. 4 minutes ago, majestic said: Surly there must be a curriculum for that ? BLM/ANTIFA blocked it to teach there anti-colonial propaganda ? 1 2 "Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic "you're a damned filthy lying robot and you deserve to die and burn in hell." - Bartimaeus "Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander "Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador "You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort "thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex "Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock "Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco "we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii "I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing "feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth "Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi "Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor "I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine "I love cheese despite the pain and carnage." - ShadySands
Malcador Posted July 28, 2022 Posted July 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Sarex said: @Malcador No, no, for those peoples death it's ok to express joy and celebrate. It's amusing but also concerning to see how psycho people are online about this. Well, I guess not all that worrying, dehumanizing a group at war is par for the course. Twitter is indeed the best though, so many furiously masturbating over combat footage or posts by Massaro et al. 1 Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
Chilloutman Posted July 28, 2022 Posted July 28, 2022 5 minutes ago, Malcador said: It's amusing but also concerning to see how psycho people are online about this. Well, I guess not all that worrying, dehumanizing a group at war is par for the course. Twitter is indeed the best though, so many furiously masturbating over combat footage or posts by Massaro et al. nothing new, just search some old propaganda videos or articles from US or USSR from WW2. 4 1 I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene"
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