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1 hour ago, Raithe said:

I think we can firmly state...

This reenactment of OLYMPUS HAS FALLEN sucked worse than the film did.

Hey, this movie had Morgan Freeman, it was great by default¬†ūüėČ

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"What can't be changed must be endured"

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1 hour ago, Raithe said:

I think we can firmly state...

This reenactment of OLYMPUS HAS FALLEN sucked worse than the film did.

That's true, and IIRC, I'm pretty sure that yesterday's storming is pretty much the way A Handmaid's Tale starts, and Donald Trump's son, the bearded one egging on the morons with his father earlier yesterday, looks like the evil leader in that TV-series.

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6 minutes ago, IndiraLightfoot said:

That's true, and IIRC, I'm pretty sure that yesterday's storming is pretty much the way A Handmaid's Tale starts, and Donald Trump's son, the bearded one egging on the morons with his father earlier yesterday, looks like the evil leader in that TV-series.

To be honest in all the years I have known you to comment on politics this is probably the most concerned and or upset you have ever been on a development  And I am not criticizing you at all, we all upset on different levels about what happened 

Its just an observation 8)

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@BruceVC That's prolly true. I feel like blurting out: The line must be drawn here! (Bonus points for identifying in which TV-series you hear that very line and the actor who delivers it!)

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Guys I honestly believe this is not the end of the Republican party, I firmly believe we should see this as the " realignment of the GOP  back to its core values before Trump " 

Even Lindsay Graham distanced himself from Trump 

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"We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.‚ÄĚ -¬† George Bernard Shaw

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8 minutes ago, BruceVC said:

Guys I honestly believe this is not the end of the Republican party, I firmly believe we should see this as the " realignment of the GOP  back to its core values before Trump " 

Even Lindsay Graham distanced himself from Trump 

That's not really a thing in a meaningful way, unless you mean go back to follow Trump values on the down low, while making a superficial show of wanting different things. 

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1 minute ago, Pidesco said:

That's not really a thing in a meaningful way, unless you mean go back to follow Trump values on the down low, while making a superficial show of wanting different things. 

Its symbolic because 7  Republican Senate members  still tried to block Biden after the violence. They will be marked for all time as " the group that still supported Trump " 

And I absolutely believe the GOP can move away from Trumpism, in fact it will easier than most think once Trump is gone 

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"We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.‚ÄĚ -¬† George Bernard Shaw

"What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela

 

 

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Let the memes begin! The last drunk guy to stagger into the floor of the Senate was Ted Kennedy.

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I've been wondering about that dork - I'm pretty sure that he's masquerading as Jason Kay in Jamiroquai, based on one of their music videos.

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Just now, IndiraLightfoot said:

I've been wondering about that dork - I'm pretty sure that he's masquerading as Jason Kay in Jamiroquai, based on one of their music videos.

But he is everywhere...in most photos

My family in SA send me a Cosplay joke about him 

"Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss‚ÄĚ

John Milton 

"We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.‚ÄĚ -¬† George Bernard Shaw

"What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela

 

 

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Well, also for the cheap shots...

 

"Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum."

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7 hours ago, Darkpriest said:

I watched more of a footage, and to be honest, while the action itself is to be condemned, as it really does fly against law and order, I have not seen much [violence]. 

Considering that police wasn't in riot gear, I have not seen significant [violence]. There wasn't a single molotov ****tail flying, not a single fire laid, no life threatening [violence]. The worst I've seen was some destroyed window and tossed up furniture... 

4 ppl died from gun wounds? That's on police and sec serv? 

13 injured officers? Were any of that severe? 

I don't care how "peaceful" it was, the action was unprecedented, reprehensible, and totally unacceptable. I can't imagine there won't be consequences. There was no way to know that the rioters weren't planning something much more severe and the police really dropped the ball in failing to insufficiently protect our government institutions (although they did protect individual members).

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5 hours ago, Darkpriest said:

Not seeing that on the TV footage though, and I looked at CNN for that. Worst things they had on a reel, was some people breaking outside window, some guys in the chamber with tossed up stuff, some people bashing inside door and near the gunshot situation, some pro-trumper switching us flag with trump flag (the US flag was passed down and not damaged), and some guy keeping distance from the officer retreating upstairs. Was shown as it was a black officer chased by a white dude, but sadly for CNN the people did not maul him there on the staircase... Some barrier pushing outside the building and that's it. 

I did not see anything even remotely similar to ANTIFA black blocks, or mob attacking police during 'peaceful protests', or the burnings and use of explosives during other protests, like ones gains Trump near the White House. 

Cops had a less aggressive stance than, say, the NYPD,still had people trying to punch them and pepper spray them, though.

 

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1 hour ago, rjshae said:

I don't care how "peaceful" it was, the action was unprecedented, reprehensible, and totally unacceptable. I can't imagine there won't be consequences. There was no way to know that the rioters weren't planning something much more severe and the police really dropped the ball in failing to insufficiently protect our government institutions (although they did protect individual members).

I agree on that, but the initial reports on some news panes, without seeing the footage, made it like a beginning of a 2 civil war and a power grab coup by DT. 

While after initial emotions cooled, police didn't even have to use tight shield wall formation to escort protesters down the stairs... 

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one terrible and unaddressed aspect o' the events yesterday is that it gives too many complicit republicans cover as they abandon trump. the election in georgia made clear to the republican establishment that trump has lost the suburbs, which were bad news for republicans going forward. such shpoulda' been the lesson they took away from november, but to be fair democrats ain't been any smarter 'with their election post mortem. regardless, the problem for folks such as marco rubio and others were the difficulty o' distancing selves from trump as they look forward to 2022 and 2024. typically a faustian bargain is unbreakable, no? too many tweets and examples o' support o' trump will make it difficult for the rubios to pretend as if they were not coconspirators in the trumpism movement.

trump were no different yesterday than he has been since he ran for office. muslim ban? nevertheless, republicans who were looking for an excuse to abandon trump now that it is clear to many that trumpism is not  a viable option for the future had a gift handed to them. mock shock and dismay. january 6 trump were too much for them? 

is gonna be many republicans who use yesterday to reinvent themselves. unfortunate.

oh, and for the folks who has been invoking summer protest whataboutism, we set the way back machine to january 20, 2017.

Anti-Trump protesters risk 60 years in jail. Is dissent a crime?

Prosecutors eventually dropped a few defendants, like journalists and legal observers, but simultaneously increased the charges against everyone else. The most recent indictment collectively charged more than 200 people with felony rioting, felony incitement to riot, conspiracy to riot, and five property-damage crimes ‚Äď all from broken windows.

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maybe not obvious, but accuse client of criminal behavior is an atypical way for a lawyer to withdraw.

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"If there be time to expose through discussion the falsehood and fallacies, to avert the evil by the processes of education, the remedy to be applied is more speech, not enforced silence."Justice Louis Brandeis, Concurring, Whitney v. California, 274 U.S. 357 (1927)

"Im indifferent to almost any murder as long as it doesn't affect me or mine."--Gfted1 (September 30, 2019)

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Again, for the cheap shots and early meme attempts...

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"Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum."

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3 hours ago, BruceVC said:

we all upset on different levels about what happened

Meh, amateurs....

Is this all you can conjure Saruman?

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14 minutes ago, Darkpriest said:

Aaaaaaaand it starts... Right on the clock. 

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/questions-about-chaos-capitol-desperately-need-be-answered

 

 

At the point they moved those barricades, that position was already flanked, I guess they moved it to avoid people getting crushed ? Odd, but in any case their perimeter was gone by that point. 

https://twitter.com/KySportsRadio/status/1347031398176223233

Premise that it must be Antifa because Trump supporters are angels is pretty funny, though.  Also, that tattoo looks like the Mark of the Outsider from DIshonored (what was someone saying about neckbeards earlier? :P)

 

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