InsaneCommander Posted July 9, 2018 Posted July 9, 2018 (edited) If the level cap increases they would have to make changes to UI as well and also invent some more high level abilities for all classes. I would say that's too much fuzz for a supposedly "smaller" DLC (than WM I and II). But I would be happy if they increase it and add some more cool ability stuff. They could increase the level cap without adding new ability levels. Maybe allow multiclass to access level 8 or 8 and 9 and give single class characters more power levels/empower points. Edit: Just throwing an idea here. I know this would f*** the balance and difficulty. Edited July 9, 2018 by InsaneCommander
Lord Brunitius Posted July 9, 2018 Posted July 9, 2018 Why people insist game isn't selling? Its in the bronze selling list on steam and it's out only since 2 months.
Boeroer Posted July 10, 2018 Posted July 10, 2018 No idea. For a game with a relatively small budget of ~4 million $ it sells well I guess. Even if it only sold 200,000 copies for ~45$ each that's roughly double its budget. Financial success, no? 1 Deadfire Community Patch: Nexus Mods
AndreaColombo Posted July 10, 2018 Posted July 10, 2018 It all comes down to what Obsidian consider successful for this game. They certainly have goals and internal targets they're tracking that are not publicly available. 1 "Time is not your enemy. Forever is." — Fall-From-Grace, Planescape: Torment "It's the questions we can't answer that teach us the most. They teach us how to think. If you give a man an answer, all he gains is a little fact. But give him a question, and he'll look for his own answers." — Kvothe, The Wise Man's Fears My Deadfire mods: Brilliant Mod | Faster Deadfire | Deadfire Unnerfed | Helwalker Rekke | Permanent Per-Rest Bonuses | PoE Items for Deadfire | No Recyled Icons | Soul Charged Nautilus
Boeroer Posted July 10, 2018 Posted July 10, 2018 Yeah. Did you see the IGN interview? Josh emphasizes how important IP is for a studio like Obsidian. I think even if Deadfire turns out to be disappointing (considering their internal goals) they won't drop the whole Pillars theme. It's too important for them. Deadfire Community Patch: Nexus Mods
Frog Man Posted July 10, 2018 Posted July 10, 2018 Don’t forget - as far as locations are concerned I expect most of the expansion to take place in the ‘beyond’. Think the animancers quest that sent you to the Beast of Winters realm. Really fun aesthetic. 2
InsaneCommander Posted July 11, 2018 Posted July 11, 2018 Makes sense. If not in that realm, we would probably have to travel very far, near the White That Wends.
MrMoe Posted July 11, 2018 Posted July 11, 2018 (edited) No idea. For a game with a relatively small budget of ~4 million $ it sells well I guess. Even if it only sold 200,000 copies for ~45$ each that's roughly double its budget. Financial success, no? A lot of bakers got if for less (15k copies @ 29$ ) Steam takes a 30% cut Ideally, the sales should not only cover production cost but also leave enough to develop the next game. But I guess 200k copies and in that short time, with upcoming DLC sales, the numbers should be fine. Edited July 11, 2018 by MrMoe
no1fanboy Posted July 11, 2018 Posted July 11, 2018 plus obsidian said they put in $10mil of there own money so the budget was $14mil they also said 500,000 copies was the breakeven
Boeroer Posted July 11, 2018 Posted July 11, 2018 No idea. For a game with a relatively small budget of ~4 million $ it sells well I guess. Even if it only sold 200,000 copies for ~45$ each that's roughly double its budget. Financial success, no? A lot of bakers got if for less (15k copies @ 29$ ) Steam takes a 30% cut Ideally, the sales should not only cover production cost but also leave enough to develop the next game. But I guess 200k copies and in that short time, with upcoming DLC sales, the numbers should be fine. A lot of backers paid a LOT more than 29$. So I think it's pretty save to say that 29$ is not the average backer pledge. But good point about Steam's share though. Deadfire Community Patch: Nexus Mods
Falk Schütze Posted July 11, 2018 Posted July 11, 2018 They are working hard on the DLC or it gets delayed or it is lightweight on content. Pick one.
1TTFFSSE Posted July 11, 2018 Posted July 11, 2018 I think increasing level cap per 5 levels every dlc is a good idea and needed for the sake of feeling progression. But rather than giving multiclass access to lvel 8/9 powers they should implement an upgrade system where you can improve/enhance existing powers beyond simply gaining power level. I would rather see actually 1 new level done of new unique abilities for every multiclass and every singleclass rather than a lazy way of unlocking level 8/9 for multiclasses and making single classes even more irrelevant. I mean as a wizard after Meteor Storm what are you gonna cast? "Extinction Event" - I guess that would be more a druid spell but you get the idea.
PK htiw klaw eriF Posted July 11, 2018 Posted July 11, 2018 (edited) I think increasing level cap per 5 levels every dlc is a good idea and needed for the sake of feeling progression. But rather than giving multiclass access to lvel 8/9 powers they should implement an upgrade system where you can improve/enhance existing powers beyond simply gaining power level. I would rather see actually 1 new level done of new unique abilities for every multiclass and every singleclass rather than a lazy way of unlocking level 8/9 for multiclasses and making single classes even more irrelevant. I mean as a wizard after Meteor Storm what are you gonna cast? "Extinction Event" - I guess that would be more a druid spell but you get the idea. If they introduced Level X abilities and had multiclasses go to 4 levels between PLs after VII we'd end up with a 1 PL difference and equality of ability points at 39 each. Or just introducing Level X abilities single classes would have a 6 level lead in getting the highest tier stuff and do something like giving single classes more resources to be about 1.5x a multiclass, like 3 spells per level or 18 vs 12 guile. I'd like to see either implemented with an overall increase of 10 to the level cap, mostly because the xp allows you to reach 20 with still things to do(especially if you pick a certain blessing) and because epic spells, martial abilities, and passives is always cool. Edited July 11, 2018 by KaineParker "Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic "you're a damned filthy lying robot and you deserve to die and burn in hell." - Bartimaeus "Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander "Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador "You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort "thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex "Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock "Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco "we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii "I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing "feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth "Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi "Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor "I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine "I love cheese despite the pain and carnage." - ShadySands
Melusina Posted July 11, 2018 Posted July 11, 2018 (edited) Did you guys even played Deadfire: https://pillarsofeternity.gamepedia.com/Realm_of_the_Beast_of_Winter DLC would so much be extended this quest. Edited July 11, 2018 by Melusina https://store.steampowered.com/curator/33102093/ - Picky Gamer Girl!
Melusina Posted July 12, 2018 Posted July 12, 2018 When will next Obsidian stream be? https://store.steampowered.com/curator/33102093/ - Picky Gamer Girl!
AndreaColombo Posted July 12, 2018 Posted July 12, 2018 Tonight. 8pm if your time zone is BST+1. "Time is not your enemy. Forever is." — Fall-From-Grace, Planescape: Torment "It's the questions we can't answer that teach us the most. They teach us how to think. If you give a man an answer, all he gains is a little fact. But give him a question, and he'll look for his own answers." — Kvothe, The Wise Man's Fears My Deadfire mods: Brilliant Mod | Faster Deadfire | Deadfire Unnerfed | Helwalker Rekke | Permanent Per-Rest Bonuses | PoE Items for Deadfire | No Recyled Icons | Soul Charged Nautilus
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