antman45454 Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Any word on this yet? Will the level cap be raised and more spells abilities be introduced? I have a funny feeling that they might just raise the level cap for multiclasses so they can go higher then level 7 abilities and not introduce new levels for single classes Any word? thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilcat Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 I am suspisious about new powerful tiers with abillities. We can now summon dragon and meteor shower. What next? Tier X: Eora Destruction, all your enemies are dead, all your problems solved, forever! What could be done are legendary levels, which are twice much costly so like 50k each, very slow progression, and you can gain only passives. So no more active abillities. But could make your spells penetrate more and fire more. More powerful abillities: There is not enought cool abillities at level I-IX. So maybe stick to that. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antman45454 Posted June 17, 2018 Author Share Posted June 17, 2018 yeah but i think it would be good from a marketing perspective for the expansions to contain increased level cap, more people will buy it so they can get all the extra goodies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InsaneCommander Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 I am suspisious about new powerful tiers with abillities. We can now summon dragon and meteor shower. What next? Summon your priest's god! Moon shower*. * Can only be used once 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omgFIREBALLS Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 (edited) I hope there won't be an increased level cap. We barely get to play at the current one. I'd like instead to see content tuned directly around it in the DLC's. As in going there with great geared level 20 parties and tweaking until the challenge is right, rather than tuning it for level 10 and hoping scaling will keep the difficulty comparable. And I'm definitely not interested in more arms races between single and multiclass. Edited June 17, 2018 by omgFIREBALLS 4 My Deadfire mods Out With The Good: The mod for tidying up your Deadfire combat tooltip. Waukeen's Berth: Make all your basic purchases at Queen's Berth. Carrying Voice: Wider chanter invocations. Nemnok's Congregation: Lets all priests express their true faith. Deadfire skill check catalogue right here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigranes Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 I hope not. They should rebalance the current levels and power progression, and expand the range of available abilities & enemy encounters within them. Wouldn't serve gameplay well to go to 30 or something and just be on a constant treadmill. 2 Let's Play: Icewind Dale Ironman (Complete) Let's Play: Icewind Dale II Ironman (Complete) Let's Play: Divinity II (Complete) Let's Play: Baldur's Gate Trilogy Ironman - BG1 (Complete) Let's Play: Baldur's Gate Trilogy Ironman - BG2 (In Progress) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
house2fly Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 They could raise the level cap and add more abilities without necessarily adding more power levels; the there's plenty of room on the skill trees. If they do that, they could theoretically let multiclasses access the higher power levels but keep the slower levelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilcat Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 They could raise the level cap and add more abilities without necessarily adding more power levels; the there's plenty of room on the skill trees. If they do that, they could theoretically let multiclasses access the higher power levels but keep the slower levelling Allowing MC to take VIII and IX PL, could result in harder balance, since some abillities could be made with an assumption that they will not interact with other classes abillities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theBalthazar Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 When you see the trees, there is no place for more line. So I have a doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grasida Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 If they increase the level cap, they might go for BG2 Throne of Bhaal style high level powers. I’d be pretty surprised if they let multiclasses have access to level 8 and 9 powers, since some of those seems designed around not being able to be mixed with other class’s skills. Rather it would make more sense if there’s just a special set of “epic” skills, and maybe multiclasses would be restricted from some of them. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Takkik Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 not sure about a level increase & power level increase. I would prefere a prestige classes system, where you can choose a specialisation (linked to your class or not) that progress from level 21-30 with new powers, not necessary more powerfull, but give you more diversity/specialised tools. Like the paragon/epic paths of d&d 4. I would like to see the trinket system introduced for all classes, extra classe customization through gear (cut content). More unique gears, some weapons don't have many options. Always love more uniques. Overall, I vote for more customization / diversity / cool stuff, over stupid OP abilities that break balance. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antman45454 Posted June 17, 2018 Author Share Posted June 17, 2018 there not going to release expanions without increasing the level cap in some way they are all about sales would be plain stupid to just release more story without a power progression tied to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gloomseeker Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Reaching the level cap happens rather quickly if you don't focus on the main quest and look around a bit. It wouldn't make sense not to have a level cap increase with the DLC which doesn't mean to say that you can't have a challenge (which is basically what White March did for POE1, i.e. more levels but also more high level foes). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George_Truman Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 I sure hope so. I really want a caedebold's blackbow geomancer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThacoBell Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Whatever happens, I hope the DLC takes place AFTER the main campaign. Even with level scaling, I was stomping through Act 3 of Pillars1 after finishing the White Marches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thibax Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Give us more ability points per level and add some abilities for the existing levels. One point and a few new abilities are cool to see with the expansions. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archaven Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 they don't need to increase level cap. they can however introduce another form of progression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjshae Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 I'd like for the higher level abilities to be so rare that you need to complete difficult, possibly extrapalanar quests to track them down, or else obtain the favor of a deity or a powerful entity. "It has just been discovered that research causes cancer in rats." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wormerine Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 I would like to see the skill trees become wider with expansions, but not necessarly longer. The current amount of levels feels good for multi and single, but I feel there is less and less choice as we go down the skill tree path. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abel Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 I understand they could not do this with Pillars, but once the trilogy for BG was entirely released, making your character progress throughout the saga was a great feeling. You could only get to lvl 8 with BG1. Bioware never needed to find some crappy reason for you to be lvl 1 in BG2. I'm afraid they will do the same if there is a Pillars 3. Increasing lvl cap in the 3 expansions is pretty much guaranting they'll do it. Don't want it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Takkik Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 I understand they could not do this with Pillars, but once the trilogy for BG was entirely released, making your character progress throughout the saga was a great feeling. You could only get to lvl 8 with BG1. Bioware never needed to find some crappy reason for you to be lvl 1 in BG2. I'm afraid they will do the same if there is a Pillars 3. Increasing lvl cap in the 3 expansions is pretty much guaranting they'll do it. Don't want it. Yeah, I miss this, and all the TSR/SSI games. But I don't think that will happen any more. Because people expect to level to 'end game' in 1 game. Baldur's gate series work but you have a slow leveling. Not sure people will like this slow leveling/pacing and have to play through multiple games. Because all games have a new system. Poe1, 2, tyranny etc... it's not only obsidian, but every game have it's own game rule, they change it each time. Since you're super powerfull at the end of a game, they must restart the leveling each time. And game system tend to be less robust than a pen & paper system that lived for years. Perhaps one day they will do it (or another game company), but then you have to design a robust system or be based on a pen & paper one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wormerine Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 The issue with BG progression, was that yes it worked, but only for BG2. BG1 and especially Throne of Bhaal suffered because of it. I do find it silly, however, whenever devs kills the PC and reset his levels. My prefered solution would be to not forcefully continue protagonist (something which IMO would solve at least some of Deadfire’s narrative problems) but I know there are quite a few fans of continuity. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
house2fly Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 There's no guarantee that there'll be a third game, just like there was no guarantee there would be a second. Why do you want to hold off on the cool stuff until a theoretical future game that, if it even happens, won't happen for years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antman45454 Posted June 17, 2018 Author Share Posted June 17, 2018 im pretty sure there isnt going to be a POE3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abel Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 (edited) There's no guarantee that there'll be a third game, just like there was no guarantee there would be a second. Why do you want to hold off on the cool stuff until a theoretical future game that, if it even happens, won't happen for years? Well, i like continuity, and true, long sagas. I doubt Bioware and Interplay were already sure there would be a BG2 when they were developping BG1. I find leveling is too fast in Pillars. It should take way more time to get better at anything. Rather, i guess the true matter of this problem is exactly like Takkik said. People are not the same than 20 years ago. Even when it comes to gaming, they want everything, immediately. Getting fireball mid game is just too much for most people's patience. Well, can't be helped anymore. One country that was a lighthouse for art and creativity in the 20th century has become the lighthouse of dumbed-down-but-with-big-budget, take-that-in-ya-face art creation. Mickael Bay, without a doubt, for me, is such a criminal. People are now used to this, and humankind knows how to adapt pretty fast. Sometimes, it's for the worse. Cool stuff? Quality of life things? *sigh* Bah... Chacun sa paroisse comme on dit... Edited June 18, 2018 by Abel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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