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This reminded me that I'd read some stories not long ago about Iceland having a problem with tourists pooping wherever they're at while traveling. https://icelandmonitor.mbl.is/news/nature_and_travel/2017/04/05/icelandic_farmer_outraged_as_tourist_poops_next_to_/ https://icelandmonitor.mbl.is/news/nature_and_travel/2018/06/20/tourist_poops_outside_public_lavatory_in_north_icel/ http://icelandreview.com/news/2015/07/13/tourist-defecation-problem-resurfaces https://grapevine.is/news/2017/06/27/tourist-caught-pooping-10-metres-from-busy-highway/ https://grapevine.is/news/2017/06/14/locals-disgusted-tourists-excrete-on-kindergarten/ That's on top of the tourists camping in gardens, in bird watching sheds and doing crazy things like climbing out onto dangerous rocks above falls to take a selfie.

I wasn't saying that everyone should have read it. And indeed the FIG campaign wording was never changed that I could tell as I mentioned (and just flipping through the updates, I don't see the clarification in one of them, but it might be there and I skimmed past it). I can't remember if Josh posted about it on one of his regular posting areas either. So I agree most backers would never know about it unless they read the thread here. Like I said it seems like they never really got the word out about it even though they clarified in a thread here, unfortunately for both backers and Obsidian both. I happened to remember the thread where Aarik D talked about it, though, and thought it worth pointing out that it wasn't a last minute change (which, in a way, makes it all the more frustrating, I'm sure, that the information didn't seem to distribute to backers widely).

It does state a physical copy is in there. During the campaign this was changed or clarified, though: It sounds like at some point after this they decided to not go the steam installer disc and just activation code. Hi Merany! Sorry for the confusion about the wording of the Physical Box Tier. We're going to get that corrected. What it should say is that you will not get an additional digital key. When the game launches, you will also receive an email with the same digital key that will be in the physical box. So you won't have to wait until your package arrives to start playing. As AndreaColombo has pointed out, maintaining patches for dvd backers was a real struggle for us. In the past, we were not able to release a installer patch in a timely manner and it would cause a disconnect between physical and digital users. The reason why the disc comes with a Steam installer is that our primary focus now is to get future content, features, and bug fixes to all users in a timely manner. I'm thinking that maybe they never got the wording on the Fig site altered to pass this clarification on, I guess.

If you believe a post is trolling, please report it rather than calling another member a troll, telling another member to stop trolling and/or trying to pick a fight with another member. I've posted once - on this very page - requesting everyone keep on topic rather than sniping at one another personally; if the utility of the thread is exhausted such that productive conversation is no longer to be had, we can lock the thread.

If it is a bug, I can move it to the bug forum, but for now since the question and answer might contain spoilers I've moved it from the non-spoiler section of the POEII

Keep the conversation to the topic at hand and not attacking the other posters. I've edited posts to remove personal sniping but hopefully keep the context of the conversation. A simple guide, if your post includes some comment about the lack of intelligence of another poster, you're on the wrong track for posting here.

Please keep your comments directed to other posters posts and not to the poster themselves. This includes diagnosing mental or physical states over the internet. I have deleted several posts from this thread for that reason.

I haven't seen any new directives, so I'd suggest emailing support@obsidian.net regarding the issue.

This isn't a bug. Please use the existing complaint thread for POTD: https://forums.obsidian.net/topic/105036-petition-do-we-want-to-see-the-game-made-harder-on-potd-on-the-late-levels-please-voice-your-concern-here/page-5

No condescension was intended, and I apologize if you perceived what I wrote or my word choice in a condescending manner. This thread is an update to physical reward backers about fulfillment of those rewards. This does not make the thread exclusive to only physical reward backers anymore than the thread would be closed to people who didn't even back POEII. In short, there is no open thread in an open forum on these boards that are not open for all users to post in. There is no 'gatekeeping' on threads. A person posting in this thread something like "I wish I'd backed at the physical reward tier, the rewards look awesome" is just as valid as posting a question as to "why does anyone still want physical copies of a game?" The former may lead to someone, for example, helping the poster connect with physical rewards in the secondary market, the later may lead to posts - as it did - that explains why some people may be reliant on physical editions of games. What I wished to convey, ultimately, and seemed to have missed the mark is that we request if you have an issue with a post or poster that rather than telling other users where they can/cannot post and acting as a self-moderator of these threads or forums, please report the post or contact the mods instead. Telling other posters that they cannot post in an open thread as a fellow user is at best not going to solve whatever issue is at hand and at worst is going to start a fight between you and other users. My apologies again if my message was lost in the delivery.

Please discuss the topic. If this topic is exhausted, I can close it.

Maybe they hired Brian Van Hoose at his "slop and go" rates? To be serious, I agree with those who say those pictures look like the quality you get with pre-painted figs - in fact they look a lot like the BETRAYAL AT THE HOUSE ON THE HILL set of mini-figures from what I've seen of the POEII figs.

Why on earth are you even in this thread? This is for people who SPECIFICALLY paid more for physical items, including the game, box, book, etc. Your comment could not be more irrelevant. Maybe stick to threads where your opinion provides some value. This is not it. Please allow me to disabuse you of the notion that any thread on the Obsidian forum is not SPECIFICALLY for all posters. Threads here are open to all users to comment on their own opinions and/or experiences. Why on earth are you even in this thread? This is for people who SPECIFICALLY paid more for physical items, including the game, box, book, etc. Your comment could not be more irrelevant. Maybe stick to threads where your opinion provides some value. This is not it. lol. Triggered much, huh? Please discuss points, ideas, anecdotal evidence, gut feelings, facts and theoretical constructs not what motivations you've created in your mind as to why another posted may have posted what they posted.

This. This is exactly the kind of derp that makes me cut bait with you. I challenge a random, somehow uncounted (?), statistic and the clown car pulls up and disgorges this. I never even addressed the claims that were actually filed!. I honestly cant fathom how you operate in rl conversations. I'm not sure the statistic is "uncounted" in the sense that you mean. My understanding of numbers like this is that they compare reported incidents with surveys of people who in the surveys claim some form of sexual abuse or assault. So take a survey with a bunch of questions, normed to try and prevent bias and error, understand the margin of error on the surveys and then use the surveys to extrapolate to the entire population the expected population who have experienced sexual assault or abuse. This, minus reported cases, would give an expected unreported population to experience sexual abuse/assault. So its not entirely pulling a random number out of a hat and one can always debate the methodology of data gathering and whether it shows what the researchers thinks it shows, bias in questions, etc., etc. But its not just a gut feeling number, at least the studies that are looking at "unreported" parts of the population I've looked into have done this. I can't speak to these specific numbers presented in this thread as I haven't tried to dig into their methodology. Its totally anecdotal evidence, so worthless as representative of the population, but everyone I've known who claimed some form of sexual abuse in their life never reported it to an authority figure. The one person I knew whose family found out actually got blamed for their own rape by their family. But again as a non-random sample, it can't be applied to the population as a whole, so it can't be made statistically relevant in this context.

Moved to the Spoiler Section.

Have you reported this as a bug in the bug forum?

I would suggest that everyone who has posted in this thread prior to this avail themselves of the forum rules before posting again. Particularly the part that reads "We ask that the users of this board treat one another with respect, even when opinions differ. Personal attacks that are intended to cause unwanted attention, embarrassment, or harm will not be tolerated. In addition, Obsidian does not tolerate disrespectful and/or slanderous posts about its competitors, developers and publishers. Such posts will be subject to editing or deleting, with its posters censured or banned."

This forum has a spoiler warning in its title, therefore all threads in this forum can and will have spoilers in them. In many cases its is difficult to discuss mechanics and strategies without being spoilerific, and therefore spoilers should be expected in these threads. If there is a spoiler in a non-spoiler forum, then please report the post rather than try to attack other posters for posting the spoiler.

Please report bugs in the bug forum for Obsidian to address. Posting about bugs here will not fix anything. How to Report a Bug - https://forums.obsidian.net/topic/97377-how-to-report-a-bug/ Bug Forum - https://forums.obsidian.net/forum/130-pillars-of-eternity-ii-deadfire-technical-support-spoiler-warning/

Threads were merged and given a new title.

The POEII technical support forum.

You may be right. All I was saying is that I see this as a complaint thread, not a mechanics thread (ie the OP wants to vent their frustration more than anything else). I could be wrong, hence why I'd rather wait for the OP to clarify.