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Yep, you had to wonder about on near the Ebon Hawk until a passer-by from Carth's past wondered past and made a comment about Dustil being alive (which triggered the Korriban event when you got there).

So people are paranoid and are looking for connections and meaning where there is none? (gratuitous swipe at religious fanatics removed pending advice.) I find that credulous!

What about the option: 4) As for 1) but Kreia wanted you to believe 2), and was double-bluffing. "

No...she was neutral. Otherwise her meter would have been at the bottom of the DS half of the Alignment bar. Take care not to think so far outside the box you forget the box itself. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> All you are doing is highlighting the fundamental flaw in having an alignment -- and especially a one dimensional alignment, like Light-Dark. Alignments can be a cumulative measure of the actions of a character -- I'll accept that, but they are in no manner a restriction on what the character might do next. I firmly beleive that anyone would be capable of anything, under the correct circumstances. So, Kreia's alignment being neutral was due to: Jolee's alignment was neutral due to: a) allow him to join the PC in KotOR, alignment notwithstanding, and b) because he presumeably had not upheld either a selfless or a selfish manner of behaviour.

1. Obi-Wan is not generally held in the same esteem as Kreia (or should that statement be reversed? ) After all, Kreia is . 2. KotOR takes place c. 4000 galactic standard years before the movies. Yoda was only 900 years old when he died in Episode 6 ( ), so unless Revan lived / survived in suspended animation / had a surviving clone three thousand years after KotOR, then this is a physical impossibility. (Unless some plot device even more improbable is invoked, like a time traveller from the future stops off and picks up Revan and transports him far enough into the future to accomplish your idea. But that is quite, quite improbable.) :D

... And Tea Leoni is married to David Duchovny, who was an earlier candiate for Atton! Spooky. Very X-Filesish.

That statement begs the question: What is your choice?

The most troublesome combat for me was when I ran up the ramp and became embroiled in a firefight surrounded by droids and Sith from every angle! I made sure to activate the computer protocols before the main battle, next time. :D

Dustil and Mission look pretty happy. (Must be a LS Dustil.)

Different emphasis. In K1, the story arc, the plot momentum was singular and didn't branch, yes, I grant you that. But in K2, not only was the story rigid, by the end from Dantooine's Jedi Council confrontation was just four cut scenes interspersed with three fights. At no time could you opt for a different set up. It wasn't enough that the dialogue options were restricted, but also you couldn't even change events by choosing any of them -- like succumbing to the Jedi Council's will -- without the Kreia Deus ex Machina intervention. That and the feeling of being carried along like a twig in a stream annoyed me. Then you get a dialogue tree to explain all the bits the developers didn't have time to create scripts for.

For "reads" read "eats on a regular basis" <{POST_SNAPBACK}> ... and regurgitates them onto a nice, clean website forum for others to pick through ...

I am not attempting to do anything. I am. I do admit to completing tertiary education, and I have always had an avid interest in lexicography: every word is a unique concept -- at least in connotation or flavour -- and I am eternally and indefatigably interested in ideas. So the more words I read and understand, the more ideas I am exposed to (feeds my insatiable hunger). Again, this has meant that I have read many dictionaries, usually cover-to-cover, for fun. But I have long since passed on from using words to impress. I strive always for clarity of meaning, and if I communicate in a manner that fails to engage the audience, I may as well have not bothered in the first place. So what you read is what I am trying to say. If it's not clear, I will endeavour to clarify for you. No offence meant and none taken.

... or more sensibly, Skywalker wasn't a Revan.

Actually, there is; you may only deduct points in an attribute down to a minimum of three (3), and any points you add to an attribute increment on a curve, so that after a point score of fourteen it requires two points (+2) to increase the attribute to fifteen, and three points (+3) to increase from sixteen to seventeen (equates to the bonus level of conferred by the attributre score). In this way you are quite free to have a character at level 1 with 20 strength, but the character will necessarily have to be penalised in other areas. For skills the maximum you may set is based on your current level, and increases with it. E.g. a level 10 character can only have a maximum of 10 in a single "core" skill and half that in any others. For extra information, check out the "Skills" status screen (press "k"); you will see a description of all the skills and feats and powers (for Force-Senstives). In the descriptions there is a note explaining the fundamental attribute that governs the skill, e.g. Charisma governs Persuasion so your charisma bonus/penalty (e.g. +2 for attribute score 14 and -1 for attribute score 9) is added to your raw skill score. HTH

Like Madonna and Sting, Revan has only one name ....

I don't know, are we? :D I think the problem is we have reached the conclusion of the evidential stage of the argument process; Cathari (<{POST_SNAPBACK}>) has provided as much circumstantial evidence as can be reasonably expected from an exegesis of the dialogue. All that remains, barring some ex cathedra statement from GL, or a miraculous finding of some lost dialogue where the mystery is solved, is faith to be placed on one side or t'other of this holy war thread. :cool:

I would love to have Baley give some philosophical input; but an argument isn't just saying "No 'tisnt!". ("Yes it is." "No it isn't." "'Tis!" "''Tisnt!" apologies to Monty Python's Flying Circus, The Argument Clinic.)

... The sequence of events that starts in the rebuilt enclave on Dantooine and ends with the death of Darth Traya. ... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I heartily concur. Try doing the Dantooine confrontation with any combination of team members and dialogue choices to see if you can change any part of the plot until the end of the game. You can't. It's just one long odd interactive cutscene spliced together between some battles. Tht is the restrictive lack of role playing that annoyed me the most.

Often imitated, never bettered.

Ahhhh, only now do you understand, young Skywalker, that life is not the black-and-white caricature used in the education of the young, but more shades of grey, with people of goodness doing acts of badness, and people more inclined to evil sometimes, despite their intentions, doing some good. Better that you weep for the young innocent that is lost when the Kreia betrays and murders her, as Vader did to Aniken Skywalker, lest more young and innocents fall the same way.

You can't spell and six-year-olds have better grammar than you do. Mr Phantom, you should ask for your official deputy's badge from the Mods. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Your just worried that they'll close your own behemoth thread... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ssshhh! :ph34r: As long as Baley doesn't see it and start one of his "virtual equals imaginary and therefore has no correlation to real life" spam wars about llamas then I expect the thread to remain an infrequently-updated collection of metaphysical thoughts. As long as Baley doesn't see it, of course. ^_^ :D

You get fined if you're caught with modded Xboxes <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yep, it's a misdemeanor, not a crime. Are you suggesting that this might be a pointless and stupid laws ? " I don't like the loss of warranty aspect, personally.

Mr Phantom, you should ask for your official deputy's badge from the Mods.

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