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To @Wormerine's OP, it's great that we now have confirmation of the next new game project from all four RPG studios I keep close track of: Obsidian Now - The Outer Worlds Next - confirmed new project; RPG?, new IP? inXile Now - Wasteland 3 Next - confirmed new RPG project with a new IP (recent Brian Fargo interviews) Larian Now - D:OS2 Next - Project Gustav RPG using a licensed IP CDPR Now - Cyberpunk 2077 Next - confirmed new RPG project not from The Witcher franchise Larian's game should be the first of these to be revealed; Obsidian's the last since they've just revealed TOW.

Very interesting. This kind of information always fascinates me as a behavioral scientist. For me it is precisely first-person that severely breaks immersion (it is very jarring and unnatural to me) and isometric that keeps me immersed and engaged.

The paperwork is still fresh after the merger, but it looks like DRIL no longer exists as an independent entity. It may take a little while before all the records are updated, but OEI and DRIL show merger filings as of November 30. The likeliest scenario is that Dark Rock merged back into Obsidian for the purposes of the acquisition. That would make sense. I can't imagine MS having been willing to let Feargus & Co. keep those IPs outside of MS's ownership.

I've been playing Torment: Tides of Numenera recently. I really like it and don't really understand all the negativity. I like the extensive lore and all the reading, and combat being very minimal is a huge selling point for me. My only complaint is that the game is so very small - small areas, short main story, too few side quests. I can understand people being mad that reading all the lore is the way in which hours get filled playing the game. If you limit your reading, the game immediately shrinks to being less than 40 hours of actual gameplay.

Atari has no hold on anything D&D related anymore. Some years ago, following the big legal battle and Atari's bankruptcy, WotC regained all rights to all the Atari-associated D&D games. And WotC subsequently said they will never again grant to anyone the kind of deal on rights they gave to Atari.

Was wondering that myself! Me too. Would appreciate an informed answer.

I didn't care for Skyrim and could not finish the game. But I very much understand why many people love that game and I appreciate their reasons for loving it. Not being party-based and being first-person are THE game interest killers for me.

Yep from my perspective Obs will now HAVE to give me PoE3 to atone for this game (meaning Outer Worlds).

The over-the-top silly claims about both Bethesda and BioWare sure do make me chuckle and roll my eyes. Bethesda (and probably BioWare) will be just fine. Like a great many other people, if DA4 gets made I will pre-order it. I will probably also pre-order Starfield. But I won't be touching Outer Worlds with a ten-foot pole. Thank God Obsidian is already working on their next new game.

I'm convinced it is Sawyer's project, because I can't see Sawyer staying with Obsidian if they don't do right by him. Also, just my $0.02, but I don't think there will ever be a PoE3. Sorry. I think there will certainly be a game set in the Pillars setting, but it won't be called PoE. It will be a big-budget AAA open world third-person ARPG.

I'm not convinced an FPS game can make for a good RPG. The two game concepts seem antithetical. I guess we'll see. The 'controversial' part of my post was my positive reaction to the prospect of a new DA game. I very much liked and enjoyed playing all three DA games, yes including DA2 for which I paid full price and felt I fully got my money's worth in spite of its shortcomings.

I realize this will be very unpopular here but don't really care. The Outer Worlds is a first-person shooter so it's a hard NO for me. The Dragon Age teaser looks really good.

Sadly for me, since first-person is a hard deal-breaker, I'll have to pass on this game. Pity's all the greater given that the game looks to be very fun.

The first-person view is a deal-breaker for me as well. So, sadly, I will have to skip this game.

The devs have a kingdom building 'guide' of sorts heading up a thread on the Owlcat forums. It is meant for people to comment on before they incorporate it into the game in a future patch to help players with their kingdom building woes.

I'm ok with the game not being isometric if it is also not first-person. Open world and AAA are also ok with me. But that it should be an RPG and be party-based are the key elements for me. As much as I agree with the claims of The Witcher 3 being an awesome game, I have yet to play it precisely because it is not party-based. Solo play really bores me; I need companions.

If you were expecting Arcanum or Fallout with modern graphics, yeah you're going to be disappointed. This is what some people were expecting with PoE, that it would be the same as Baldur's Gate but new, and subsequently those folks became bitterly disappointed. I for one am very happy developers don't want to just remake old games.

Non-existant. It's a multiplatform game for PC, PS4 and Xbox. Yup. New IP, AAA, and multiplatform are the three things about this game that kept coming up again and again from OE itself since the project began.

That would make little sense. It’s not Microsoft sponsored game just yet, and I doubt Obs and Take2 would have much business limiting game release to console. Even if Microsoft will inherit the project with Obs purchase (I can’t see Micr logos anywere in the teasers, so my guess would be that it’s Obsidians pre-purchase commitment to Take-2) the buyout happened very recently. Doubt it would have much influence on development a this stage. Good to hear. There was just a lot of talk about Microsoft buying Obsidian and inXile in order to have them make console exclusives, so it seemed plausible that they might shelve the PC version of this game (at least for a while). Although Microsoft also make this niche OS for PCs, and maybe they'd want to release it on that simultaneously. The talk has been about "Xbox exclusive" which is not the same as "console exclusive." But Microsoft has nothing to do with this game anyway.

Wasn't it already established that this was OE's solution to not being able to do Fallout games anymore? I've long been expecting this will be a new IP that is Fallout-esque but more sci-fi than post-apoc.

There are a whole lot of things you could find there that are way more valuable than oil.

Yup. Sadly nobody does reruns of it, at least in my area. And I won't pay for any streaming service.

CDPR is just investing efficiently in guarenteed returns which helps to attract long-term investment. It amortizes the performance of peoples investments and helps yield more consistent dividents. Thus people stay invested. (Many investors have to pull investments due to life needs when they really want to vote with their wallets.) As long as CDPR doesn't gut their heavy hitting development teams just because they have lower margins than some side team, the I think they'll maintain their current philosophy. A lot of devs when they lose the old guard start to let margins drive what the company produces, which is essentially shifting the business from funding something of high intrinsic value to something that has a return value through consumer wealth extraction via inflated pricing. I still trust the upper rungs of CDPR for the time being, and I think they'll be able to convince the shareholders to run the Rockstar production model (high/long investment for high return) for the foreseeable future. Albeit CDPR mostly references pre-GTAOnline Rockstar in their financial structuring back pre-TW3 when they were planning that game as the 2077 franchise. The whole, no annual always rotating through IP long dev cycle sort of studio. Their investment in that direction will give them a lot of locked in momentum to stay that course as well. Seeing as rpgs have such a strong history of storytelling, but with not everyone being hardcore enthusiasts over mechanics and gameplay, being able to split off a story-centric digital experience off of what was a split-off deep dive of a card game mini-game within a major rpg, is not a terrible business strategy. It also demonstrates that these sorts of products are highly dependent on a core reputable product that defines the IP. In the case of CDPR even their major titles are all further backed by prior art. We can breath for the time being. I've also read in multiple places online that CDPR already has another new RPG in development to follow Cyberpunk, a new IP that has nothing to do with the Witcher franchise.

Looks like he has been badly misled by youtubers, because though spells/abilities are often "the same", or seem so, PoE 2 differs from 1 quite substantially (unlike in case of BG1/2, let alone their EE versions). If that the only beef he has with Deadfire, he can buy it, no worries. Anyway, I would prefer starting from level 1 even if it did not differ, because RPG systems invariantly work best at lower levels and only get worse the further one progresses, so I am happy with Deadfire not mimicking BG2. ^This. Plus PoE1 took us well beyond level 9 in comparison with BG1, so in effect PoE1 did what BG1 and 2 combined did from a levels standpoint. One additional thing that I feel is important to this discussion is that Obs specifically did NOT title PoE2 as "PoE2". That is how we're talking about the game in these forums, but there is no "2" in the title of the game. So the proper way to look at the game is that it is a completely new game relative to PoE1 and you really don't need to have played 1 to enjoy 2. lol yes there is Fair enough. I stand corrected. But if you look at references to the game made by the devs including Sawyer they always refer to it simply as 'Deadfire' and not as PoE2.

Looks like he has been badly misled by youtubers, because though spells/abilities are often "the same", or seem so, PoE 2 differs from 1 quite substantially (unlike in case of BG1/2, let alone their EE versions). If that the only beef he has with Deadfire, he can buy it, no worries. Anyway, I would prefer starting from level 1 even if it did not differ, because RPG systems invariantly work best at lower levels and only get worse the further one progresses, so I am happy with Deadfire not mimicking BG2. ^This. Plus PoE1 took us well beyond level 9 in comparison with BG1, so in effect PoE1 did what BG1 and 2 combined did from a levels standpoint. One additional thing that I feel is important to this discussion is that Obs specifically did NOT title PoE2 as "PoE2". That is how we're talking about the game in these forums, but there is no "2" in the title of the game. So the proper way to look at the game is that it is a completely new game relative to PoE1 and you really don't need to have played 1 to enjoy 2.