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Yes, natural rather than synthetic.

If you do go with water cooling you will need a case that has rubber grommets, and you will be installing outside as well as inside the case, I really can't recommend this for anyone but enthusiasts, or as a way to solve a serious heating problem, but have we even identified that it is that serious yet. For case fans, depending on the case you have there is usually the option to install more, this is a more straightforward solution, the bigger fan the better as a big fan rotates slower and makes less noise. a new CPU cooler may be necessary as well, can't say until we know how hot is 'hot' And yes, house cleaning inside the computer, necessary once in a while, small fans and heatsinks get clogged with dust reducing their efficiency. I just use a fine haired brush, never did find anywhere here that sold those compressed air thingies.

Anyway post temperatures and specs. First quick test is to check the bios and see if there are any warnings. Components monitored by the board sometimes have an auto shutdown temp listed next to them, if this is reached the system will shut down to avoid damage to itself, the temperatures should obviously be a healthy margin from it.

I dunno, I guess the Chinese media will jump at anything, other than the glaring problems at home. They don't need to get the nod from above to rag on other countries.

Also, one can get too used to spellcheckers. Or maybe I'm addressing the asthmatic segment on these boards, you decide.

Heat will cause failures, but they may not be permanent. Poll the temperature of the motherboard and processor by going into the BIOS. 'Hot' is relative, it might be within limits still. This is a Zalman copper heatsink, it's quite asthmatically pleasing, but I don't recommend trying to build one yourself, copper loon.

You're are off by a 1000 years.

Or maybe he's Irish and got a tan.

I watched Beckham kick a ball and get cheered on like a superhero with some Pink Floyd has been. I think that was the wrap up party.

#1 was a terrible movie. I have no idea why they needed #2. What's next? Battlefield Earth 2? Yes, but the slave girls were hotter than in Conan the Barbarian

I have gotten 2 blue screens of death in reference to an ati.something something file. That kind of thing is almost invariably driver or bios related wouldn't you say. I'm going to install vista and run on it a while to see if it re occurs.

The Scorpion King 2#. Wow, that was really horrible, but I guess I knew that going in. Sometimes horrible movies turn out hilarious, like Anaconda, as a forinstance.

How much was your budget? Bearing in mind that we have a very high VAT and import costs it would probably be a lot less in the US, comparisons won't be accurate. I spent somewhere around 1400 USD, a whole lot of that went on the P190 case.

I would have gotten a HD4870 but it cost almost twice as much as my 4580 at the time due to shortages. It's about 20-25% faster, give or take. I still haven't played anything the single 4850 could'nt handle at high, or very high settings.

I have a question though, do ancient PCI cards fit in the new PCI express 2 motherboards, is it just a few slots that are PCI express or are there legacy options. We are about to shift from analog to digital broadcast format, it will happen sometime next year, and there still remains questions about what chip will be needed for reception, I have a PCI card with analog input signal and chips that are in all likelyhood incompatibe with furture broadcast formats. It would be smarter to wait till after the shift to buy a new one.

I tried lavasoft's free firewall, but it failed install. There is currently a zonealarm closed beta for 64 bit I read somewhere. Any thoughts ? Software firewalls really aren't one of the things I can afford to spend money on. I'm almost afraid to go anywhere using the included windows firewall.

I got Assassin's Creed and realized the controls were designed for console. I haven't got a controller, maybe I'll pick it up again when I do. Also the tutorial was needlessly lengthy, although I can't really say anything about the game as I haven't gotten into it.

Prebuilt systems often cut corners somewhere to save on purchase costs, on the other hand those that build them usually know more about the components than your average enthusiast. Just remember that whatever blurb they put next to it, 'media pc', 'gamer rig', etc, it means nothing, look at the specs and then research them a little, ask around.

There are warranties on the components, with some 'unless you's, granted.

Hellboy, the golden army. Pretty straigthforward action thingie. Lots of awesome designs and weird creatures. Suffers a bit from Hellboy looking goofy rather than cool. The dimensions are wrong, how can they be anything else when you try to stick Ron Pearlman in a hellboy suit. Abraham is cool though.

Core 7 is comming out probably late fall, if you can wait that long the older mobos and processors will be dirt cheap. Great opportunity for getting the most out of your money.

It's very innocent, perhaps a la Calvin and Hobbes, but it's so well made you don't care that it's 'for kids'. It's a fantasy story about a war involving dragons and lost heirs, but mostly you just fall in love with the Bone cousins. You can get the whole series compacted on the cheap, or just buy one of the first compilations to see if it's for you.

I'm a bit strange in that for a comic to interest me there has to be something about the linework that draws me in. Mike Mignola did the excellent Hellboy series, no fault of his it was turned into a kid's movie with Ron Pearlman, not half bad movie either, and he did something called Fafred and the Gray Mouser, and a novel called Ironwolf and the fires of the revolution. I notice a lot of vintage stuff on people's lists. I guess you haven't been keeping up either. I mean I like Miller's Daredevil as much as the next guy, but it's pretty old, and showing it too. If you haven't already, get Jeff Smith's Bone. It's hilarious and awesome all at the same time.

This is my budget system from the long running build thread. Processor Core 2 Duo 3 Ghz . E8400 6 MB Board. Asus Maximus Formula, republic of gamers edition. Ram 2x 2048 MB Dual Mushkin Xtreme. DUAL RAM / DDR II SDRAM / PC2-8500CL5 / 1066 MHz GFX Saphire HD 4850 Sound Soundmax extreme fx, this is from the makers of the pretty unimpressive onboard solutions, but this particular card is quite excellent, comparable to much more expensive name brand cards. HDD Samsung SpinPoint T166 - 750 mb CD/R SalvagedIDE PSU& Case Atech P190

I have a 4850 and it runs very hot, but it\s rated to be hot, no artifacts although I actually burned my skin on it while installing a soundcard. When I get the other one for crossfire I might consider doing that, as well as putting another case fan in near the cards. Although messing around with tiny components on a circuit board with a screwdriver, that sounds pretty terrifying.