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Ok here is an attempt at a complete lineup for a budget PC. Processor Core 2 Duo E8400 6 MB (Intel Boxed) Board. Asus Maximus Formula. it's not cheap, but it supports very cheap ram while having two pci express 2.0 x16 slots. Also, bundled with S.T.A.L.K.E.R, shadow of Chernobyl, which made me laugh. Ram 2x 2048 MB Dual Mushkin Xtreme. DUAL RAM / DDR II SDRAM / PC2-8500CL5 / 1066 MHz GFX Asus HD 4850 HDD Samsung SpinPoint T166 - 500 mb CD/R Salvaged, although I can't figure out if the board actually has an old style IDE connector. Rooting through the PDF manual now. PSU& CaseI'm at a loss here on whether to match something to my needs or go with a the Neo link 1200 PSU & Case from Aentech, which should last me through another upgrade.

Because you want to be rid of them more than anything else in the world ? Well maybe except for the Gith and the warlock, they were momentarily cool. I mean it's hard not to be cool when you are a Gith, you would have to work actively at it.

I think I've asked this before, but I can't remember the outcome. Whats the e.t.a on either of the two NWN2 adons ?

I usually played with the sort of asian looking human female, cause it was the only one I could stand looking at. Theres about a handful of options if you don't want your char to have that 'violently beaten with the ugly stick' look. I'm not talking about pretty versus unattractive, but about all those poorly made faces no one ever uses. A little quality control please.

Warcraft 3 was a pretty boring RTS. Now I haven't played more than 40 minuites of Wow in my life, but it's hard to argue that it hasn't been a huge draw for a lot of people. As for Kotor going MOG, I guess I'll hold off judgment until they have actually screwed anything up.

If you imported your character chances were pretty good it could happen anyway.

You could take the gray path, but if you did with a somewhat alignment dependent character, Ranger, Druid, etc, the game could shift you too far for no apparent reason and you would lose the ability to advance in your class. Only Evil or Good were safe from the system screwing your build up.

There were a lot of things about the Spirit Eater thing that made no sense at all. This is probably because the alignment system is already pretty silly, as if all you had were 8 or so choices for psychological and moral makeup. In a sense it was the bipolar jedi syndrome all over again. Either you are propper jedi, meditating several times a day and keeping you hands above the covers when you sleep, or you fillet babies and swallow their souls.

Thats certainly interesting, and a convincing case for finding that golden niche PS that gives you exactly what you need, not more and not less.

A larger power supply has a larger capacity, it doesn't automatically use more power, and I don't think you will be able to get much out of the sale of a used PS, but you do have a point. These things cost a lot and if you can find just the sweet spot of what you need it's money saved.

I think the power supply may be inadequate for HD 4870 in crossfire, the requirements are listed here http://game.amd.com/us-en/crossfirex_components.aspx?p=3

@Bokshi By the way, getting a e8400 @ 3.8 GHz, pretty nifty. Although you must have spent an arm and a leg on coolers. Still coolers might be as good a future investment as anything else. Is it stable, and by that I mean as a rock ?.

Bearing in mind that I have to save somewhere, no name industry standard or 9/9/9/24, or 7-7-7-20 cas corsair ram might be the place to do it. It costs barely anything, and if the actual performance difference is still negliable and I'm going to be throwing it in storage at my next upgrade anyway.. well.

On the verge of a major shift in technology is a really bad time to be buying I guess Maybe I should just get a DDR 2 compatible board and chuck cheap ram in it to save money. Or, wait it out with my archaic system, but when is Nehalem going to get cheap enough for mere mortals. Christmas, Christmas next year....

Is DDR 3 worth it. I mean if I can get twice as much DDR 2 for the same money and DDR2 is going to be supported well into future nehalem boards ? These are all ifs I'm asking, not telling

So, who knows anything about Ram specifications. This is the test report sheet for the x38 diamond. http://global.msi.eu/uploads/test_report/TR10_1328.pdf As you can see not a whole lot tested compared to what is out there. Is there any real danger in choosing something else, There is a real shortness in the 1333, 2 gb section. I take it the 'DDR' heading is synonymous with FSB, since it goes 800/1066/1333 same as the boards FSB speed options. So I can buy something higher than 1333 mhz, but not lower if I want to run 1333 mzh on the board. However, the price comparison site I am looking at has an array of options. Including the prefixes 'PC', 'PC2' and 'PC3'. I surmise 'PC3 11000' and 'DDR3 SD Ram' is what I'm looking for in the drop down menu, You can see that here http://www.edbpriser.dk/Products/Showsubcategory.asp?ID=37. It's in danish but the categories should be self explanatory. The pricing for similar specifications from different producers vary wildly, I suppose roughly according to timings. Anywho 2 x 2 GB '(4 GB) / DUAL RAM / DDR3 SDRAM / PC3-11000 / 1375 MHz / ? Bit /' is a listing for two kingston 2 gb sticks. Will that run happily at 1333 fsb, and OC to 1375 fsb ? I wonder if I should look at another board. Don't want to order all this stuff and not even get the board to post.

I just noticed it weighs 20 kilograms - EMPTY lols.

So, this is the 'monster from the blue lagune'. http://www.antec.com/uk/productDetails.php?ProdID=09191# It has a few positive reviews, although you should be cautious of impartiality of price comparison sites. The Zalman PSU alone costs half of what I would pay for this PSU+Case. It's a two in one PS split in a 650 watt for the mobo and PCI cardds and a 550 watt for the drives and the rest. http://www.antec.com/pdf/flyers/Neo-link_flyer.pdf Now comes the hard part. Is this sufficient for new cards in Sli/Crossfire. Is it going to last me a long time. I read something about the PCI connectors needing to be 'running on a dual rail' in the PS thread. I have no idea what this means. My guess is that this combo is better than a single 850 watt because they share the load. The case has the HDDs isolated from the board for more efficient cooling and materials designed to lower noise. The way I see it there is not very much to save by getting a Zalman or quatro 850 watt + another case, and this way at least I know the internal cables are going to be a snug fit.

Now I'm torn, trying to figure out if I should hold out for a 4870x2, counting my money. I bloody knew this was going to happen

A little knowledge is a dangerous thing, with electricity potentially lethal. Fortunately I don't know a damn thing.

Waht...

I guess this has something to do with the magic that is electricity, more specifically grounding. Why she didn't get more seriously damaged that is.

Screwing a company while you are leaving creates a bad impression that may stick, nothing wrong with playing out all your options before you are hired.

Morality is not an emotional response, it usually entails hard choices with no immediate benefits. Thats not the same as sympathetic neurons making you feel glad when you see a smile and distressed at pain. That would be empathy, the most important building block of human socialisation. You might say Morality is the long view. I'm not sure what I'm responding to, but I thought it was an interesting differentiation.

I'm remembering that scene from the Matrix where the Frenchie says 'Morality is an illusion created between those with power and those without.' Who is he quoting again, Nietzsche ? Anyway, morality is an abstract, you decide if it means anything to you. Fortunately a lot of people wind up thinking just that.