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How about the solid UI, or is that not available in the bb?

I really do hope they consider overhauling the xp system. It really shouldn't be that hard especially because they have an xp cap. I think they should forget about people abusing the per kill xp system(it's a single player game and no one is forcing people to double back after sneaking to kill all the enemies), and just focus on character progression have the right curve progress. There is always the next game, where the can invest more time in to thinking how to prevent double dipping and exploits of similar nature if they feel it's such a big problem.

Not really ok at all dude, like the first sticky in this thread says not to post anything unrelated to bug reporting. Why create extra work for everyone just to get some attention...

You have incentive to do both (all) and if properly implemented I don't see the problem.

Oh yes I watched those two episodes, I agree they were good, but then it went back to Korra.

Tbh, I don't even think most of those guys are repulsed by combat experience, I think they just feel the need to defend the game for some reason. I say this because the system we want, where kills/stealth/talking/etc grant xp, wouldn't take away anything from them as this system does for us.

Last Airbender is vastly superior to LoK. I watched season one and after that gave up on the series. LoK suffers from a weak main character, that is very hard to like.

This, except I will be using the IWD ones.

I was just poking some fun.

And the winner by knockout, Stun...raises hand in victory...

Well if you did say that you would have been laughed at and ridiculed. There is no difference in putting time in to a MOBA and putting time in to PoE or any other game for that matter, both is wasted time (with the exception of streamers and professional players who make money of the game).

As opposed to which war the USA had: Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Bay of Pigs?

Oh are we strawmaning now, ok... Where do you think the lore on the wiki came from? The lore was in the client and on the main website for those who where interested, maybe it's still on the main web site. It came out through weekly journals. People who are not interested in the story will just skip dialog and cutscenes in any game, people who are interested will read the lore (weekly journals) and watch cutscenes, what you did as a child does not equate to everyone else. This is all besides the point, he said there was no bare bone lore, I proved him wrong.

::::writes up Planescape Torment's XP system:::: You should ask for some of that Kickstarter money Stun, they are even asking you to make the game now. LoL, but Tartantycos arguments are priceless.

Yes but he said that it didn't even have a bare bones lore, which as I pointed out isn't the case, as for how hard you have to dig for it, not very. The wiki has lore that is not in the client. He is clueless to the point of negligence, where a simple google would have told him otherwise he chose to talk out of his ass. Pretty much everything he said on this topic has been like that.

Both LoL and DotA have that. At least do some research before you talk out of your ass...

I know what his experience level is because those are the comments of a novice moba player. He stated his beliefs as facts. Because people here are spreading misinformation that leads to wrong conclusions in regards to the original topic. Anything more oh white knight of mine?

We have another expert here ladies and gentleman. He played mobas once so now he know everything there is to know about them. The most popular LoL streamer and once professional player is a huge fan of the CIv games, in fact he plays them on his stream on the near highest difficulty. Most top tier players have a history with Star Craft and Warcraft games before they played LoL. I am a huge Civ, PoE, ME, DA fan too, and I like to play Mobas too (not to mention that my experience in the latter far outstrips yours), so what now? It's incredible that you can spout so much ignorance without even flinching and worst of all you state your opinions as facts. As for will moba players like PoE or not, well there are over 30 million LoL players, so I bet a percentage of them will like and play the game.

That is just bad gameplay then. When none of the choices seem fun or rewarding, the game designer failed. The funniest thing is when this discussion started, it went along the lines you don't need rewards for combat because combat is fun, but now after the demo it did a 180 and all of sudden the argument is that getting rewarded with loot is enough. Funny how that goes.

They are all experts, who have never played a moba in their life. They are being hipster and hate the popular things.

Yes I do agree, but their claims are for their level of play, which as I already said is not representative of the complexity of LoL, just as a low tier SC2 player can't represent that games true level of complexity. I hope you get what I am trying to say, I am really not trying to be arrogant even if I do come of as such in these posts. If either game were that easy then most players would be a pro not just a few hundred players out of how many tens of millions players(in the case of LoL).

We already have this thread and it has a poll included. Use the search function before making a topic.

Ok take this how you will but those aren't high tiers. I am Diamond 3 and I still don't consider myself high tier. High tier in LoL is High diamond 1 (80 lp and up) through Challenger. I think I could be low diamond 1 if I played on the EUW server because my ping is 200 on the NA server, which means that any twitch reaction is near impossible, but either way I think I will make it to Diamond one by the end of the season (year). To further elaborate, you can get to Diamond 5 on skill alone. What this means is you have incredible mechanical skill and can outplay your enemy in lane. After D5 you need to make good decisions (this is what I'm good at most of the times) and in D1 and up you need to be able to do both at an incredible level. What makes this even harder is that you need to do this with 4 other people, which usually means that you need to carry one or more of them to win. You also need to be proficient enough in other roles, because you will not always get your main role, so you have to preform on a level where you can at least hold your lane until team fights start. So to conclude your friends aren't near good enough, to be able to make those claims. They are simply on a level where mechanical skill alone can win you the game.

How high is high? Diamond 5, Diamond 1, High Diamond 1, Challenger, what server? Take a look at professional matches in lol or dota 2 and compare them to star craft 2. Both type of games take time to master and both can't be mastered over night.

Speaking from experience for mobas too?