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So far i'm having a good time with Poe, soundtrack, presentation, art design and the atmosphere of the game are all top notch, am pausing on my way to Gilded Vale at the moment. That said I have some criticism: First, in character creation there were not enough variables, I expected a height and weight slider such as was used in TOEE, there was none. Secondly, the attributes are just not intuitive, if I were not conversant with the game from perusing the forums then I would be confused as to the illogical bonuses one accrues from varying stats. Third, the character models are plain, not ugly mind but just so so, I was expecting more improvements in this aspect. Fourth, the combat just cries out to be turn based, every single aspect of it. Fifth, the combat - non combat divide is artificial, it's fair enough that the developers don't want pre buffing, that doesn't mean that certain skills should be impossible to perform outside combat, simply mechanically improve pre buffing. just my opinions however.

Killed Frank Horrigan, watched the Enclave pass away into history, good riddance. On to Poe now, rather large boots to fill.

Your position is perfectly understandable McMayhem, and admirable, but one cannot help being disappointed and disgusted when on reading these threads there are actually people whom are advocating for the Neo Nazi Ian Miles Cheong and excusing the genocide that Erica Victorious preaches for. To any right thinking people this is immoral, sickening, twisted and disgusting, yet these people whom defend it and say it is "just a joke" are so blinded by their own hatred for people as to not see that it is first not funny, and second the raving of a diseased mind. I do not hold all gay people to be like this, most gay people are just people, normal, right thinking, moral and sensible, whom just happen to have a slightly different sexual favour than the majority. It is not a thing worthy of discussion really, as they'll be treated no differently by me than any other individual. However the people whom are arguing for Neo Nazi's and genocide advocates to be sated are immoral and hateful and must be opposed, they are sick of mind and are a seed of hatred in society that anybody sensible knows to never cater to, never listen to and never compromise with. I'm sickened by those whom would do otherwise, and it has nothing to do with their sexuality, gender or anything but their individual decision to enable hatred and support such obvious evil. I do not use that word often, because it is often overused and rendered impotent, but there is nothing else I can find that fits.

I have to admit that i'm still disgusted by the genocide advocate who first complained about this having their whining accepted and Mr Keldorn's limerick censored, i'm a little biased because after church this Sunday i'll be visiting my grandfathers grave, a quiet, brave and good man who served in the war and carried the scars to his grave. Such a victory of censorship by an immoral and ungrateful idiot just seems to spit on his and so many others sacrifices against genocide, but then again I suppose this may be me being too sensitive, and may be my Achille's Heel. I still maintain that such people should never be catered to, but i'm going to relieve such feelings with a few miles of tabbing and some quality time on the heavy bag. Good morning all, have a nice Easter.

I don't actually know what you're talking about but I thought the content in question was in poor taste and I neither support genocide nor do I know who Ian Miles Cheung is. And while some folks have bad opinions, you'll find that even a broken clock is right twice a day. Maybe its because I come from an older generation, and the horrors of the war are still all too well remembered by the family members who came back and failed to come back from liberating Germany and the tales they told, but I personally never regard genocide as "right," I hope I never do. I'm sorry if that view is not fashionable, but it will not be changed.

I'll repeat myself, sorry to do so, I can't back a decision to cater to a Neo Nazi and a genocide advocate, and the insecure, entitled whiners who would support such individuals. That these twisted and immoral individuals are dictating what is moral and acceptable in a virtual construct is to me utterly preposterous. Surely you must see how hypocritical it is to say that this joke is unacceptable, while arguing for the death of half the worlds population and Ian Miles Cheung's equally repulsive views are acceptable? I'm utterly speechless at the tacit support of such hateful bile spewing agendas.

Caving in to the demands of a genocide advocate, a neo Nazi and their insecure, humourless supporters, i'm sorry but I can't see this as anything but an immoral and cowardly action, such people should not be listened to or given anything, they should only be spurned by right thinking moderates. Tremendously disappointed.

I suppose that within a few years we might see Mr Cain take the project lead reins on a Poe game, and get a spiritual successor to Arcanum, if the gentleman wishes to deal with the stresses and strains of a managerial role. I've got to admit I loved Arcanum, the subverted main quest that is hinted at throughout, the original characters like Gar, Zan Alurin and Torian Kel, the reactivity and all the different ways to complete a quest, the quests themselves which really invoked a good GM's finest work, I was a little enchanted by Arcanum. There of course were negatives: The linear Black Mountain quest, after so much reactivity and choice this slow slog was a slap in the face, and yet later when one can skip the Dredge entirely it shows that the devs realised their earlier mistake. The characters were mechanically weak, Virgil was only useful to a magic user and the rest of the characters were a little borked. The traps, how I hated them, sheer, mind numbing tedium treading one square after another and only revealing one at a time, the Fallout 2 system was better than this. This being said i've played the game multiple times, and still feel a smile crack my cheeks when "Arronax" appears on the Morbihan Plains and issues his challenge, or feel chills down my spine when Torian Kel tells of the battle between the Derian Ka and the Molochean Hand. For all its faults Arcanum was ambitious, entertaining and endlessly charming to me.

I sauntered into New Reno today, and can't help but notice one aspect of the game that seems to be omnipresent, the devs really do take the rise out of each other. Whether it's the usual Feargus jokes, T Ray stealing ones car, Mr Kesting and his oral skills with ladies of the night, all those ladies swooning over Mr Avellone or whatever, nice to see the devs having a healthy sense of self ridicule. Of course if released now it would be termed massively "problematic," but it's not fashionable or currently popular so nobody will pay a blind bit of notice thankfully. The names for the Porn films are hilarious, my favourite has to be "****-*-***-***." Charming tale of a young tribal lady.

It's a game, virtual prostitution is not real, like all of the virtual killing we indulge in. If you object to it in game, don't do it, the choice is yours.

Poe Hero edition key to give away, PM me and i'll give you the code, first come, first served. Was going to give it to my brother in law, he decided to buy the Royal edition though, seems the game is getting good press. Edit: Oh it's GOG as well, sorry if that's a problem. Edit 2: Taken.

For me it's simple, the limerick did not in any way depict harming or degrading the man whom the other man buggered, also I would oppose a Neo Nazi and a genocide advocate no matter what they suggested. If I ever got to the point where I found myself supporting such people then I would have to take a long hard look at my life and figure out what went wrong.

For me it's clearly influenced by the old Ultima games, as arguably all Larian games have been, and thus features such as environmental interaction and a more living, reactive world are prioritised rather than simply the usual conversation and combat in corridors. The immensely fun and innovative turn based combat only adds to this. The art design i'm in two minds over, yes it is colourful and timeless in its stylisation, but honestly I preferred the original Divine Divinity's palette and design. The continental humour I can tolerate, it's not exactly Wilde, but at least it's not the usual sub par Joss Whedon squeeing that dominates a lot of other games. The character creations sheer scope and choice is something I very much enjoyed. Narrative and plot wise, yes it's not Obsidian but it's eminently solid and fit for purpose. All together I enjoyed my time with Original Sin, i'd probably Kickstart again and I may return for another playthrough at some point.

Of course they're not equivalent, the one joking about genocide is much worse and if you defend that and condemn the one about suicide then you're a hypocrite.

Ah so joking about killing 3 billion people is alright, but joking about one man killing himself after accidentally buggering another man is bad? Edit: Then again i'm not going to ask this pro genocide joking idiot to be censored, i'm not that small.

My kicking, screaming and pouting is so different, mature and justified whereas everybody elses is evil and misogynistic. Why? Because i'm a special snowflake and you're all untermensch. How tiresomely predictable.

We've had joke tombstones in graves for twenty five years, they're an in joke that everybody knows of, check out the graveyard in Ultima near Yew. Trans issues, go to a Wizard and ask him to make you whatever you want to become, Druids can shape change into another species, gender change should be a relatively minor spell in comparison. Insecurity and lack of a sense of humour though, they probably require a lot greater spell craft.

What exact power does one gain from dragging ones country into an unwinnable war? Certainly the USA does not need to be interfering in other nations domestic affairs, they are a hyper power, they've won. I'm not at all anti USA, in fact i've stated repeatedly that i'm worried about the anti American sentiment that is being popularised across Europe, but I see no peace and security being created by the international community. I simply propose that instead of carrying on with the usual maneuvering we've seen for centuries, that we try a little enlightened self interest. America has nothing to lose, the Middle Eastern nations will still sell their oil at a massive profit, Russia will still do business with Europe despite their grandstanding and rhetoric. Nothing will change, except we would no longer be supporting unwinnable wars, creating future enemies or wasting our young mens and womens lives. Just my opinion however.

It's pathetic i've got to agree, a joke that is widely prevalant and seen everywhere from on television to banter down the local is now taken seriously? I swear that the Life of Brian would never get made if these humourless, insecure and desperate to be offended people had the the power we give them now. Meanwhile lying about people whom are moderates asking for reasonable actions, and calling them sexist, racist, misogynist, neckbeards and much worse is considered to be perfectly acceptable. Then again what would I know i'm a subhuman untermensch for asking journalists to do their jobs. Censor away.

Poe is selling well and has become popular, thus the SJF's latching on to it, I rather expected this and don't believe that Obsidian will crumble in the face of such idiocy as they have produced far more supposedly "problematic" content. Thought this TB video was rather appropriate, fast forward to 3:30 for the relevant issues being discussed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUfVlBCQyTM

Yes unfortunately I have first hand experience of this, a friend of mine, a reasonable, intelligent and cultured gentleman holds similar quite unreasonable views. Not quite as extreme but his impression is, as you say, that they are not really Muslims. Interesting, as that sounds similar to some Catholics' opinions on Protestants. My thoughts exactly. Blaming SykesPicot for the current strife due to its failure to create a national identity transcending tribal and sectarian divisions, is at best a nice intellectual exercise. I think that a FAR more constructive approach would be to better understanding the capabilities and goals of the regional powers, so we can avoid making further mistakes i.e. underestimating the situation in the middle east. My own preferred constructive approach is for nation states to respect each others borders, affairs and leave well enough alone. Trade and self defense would still be viable and advantageous to all, but simply halt the game playing and get out of that mire. There is no end game in sight, I don't believe that there ever will be so long as we are meddling in others affairs. I'm aware that this sounds naive, but no more naive than believing that we can manipulate regions into following foreign policies that will benefit us in the long or short term.

Yes unfortunately I have first hand experience of this, a friend of mine, a reasonable, intelligent and cultured gentleman holds similar quite unreasonable views. Not quite as extreme but his impression is, as you say, that they are not really Muslims.

Timeless is the word they were looking for, this will stand the test of time like the original IE games did. Whereas the latest eye candy will fade and wither all too quickly. One suspects however that it being IGN they wanted more stylised graphics, such as seen in D:OS, however both styles are legitimate and I would say suit their respective games perfectly. Could the 3d character models be improved? Yes I think so, the original Sacred had staggeringly detailed and attractive 3d models in a 2d world, but it had a fraction of the content, depth and reactivity of Poe, not to mention only one player character unless playing online. However if I were Obsidian i'd be looking at maybe headhunting one of the former Ascaron chaps, should they proceed in the same manner. Though i'm sure they can improve on their own, just through experience and familiarity.

Speaking from a strategic viewpoint I can't see what the USA were thinking of when they invaded Iraq for the second time, any military advisor worth his salt could have told Mr Bush what the result of unbalancing that precarious Sunni-Shia tug of war would be. Obviously Saddam had to go, as he was becoming increasingly unstable, but there was no need to tear down the Sunni infrastructure. They forgot to use the carrot as well as the stick, and for all of pre war Iraq's faults it was fiercely opposed to the disruptive elements of the region, and favoured a certain degree of secularism. Perhaps Iraq was doomed from the start when we first welded it together from three seperate regions and peoples, and certainly some of those people suffered unduly under Saddam such as the Kurds, but one has to ask whether they and the region are better off now. Of course I have none of the answers, but I can unfortunately empathise with those who blame the west for their part in first creating a stalemated conflict and then unbalancing it. Of course we English did this all over the world when we ran the flag over an empire on which the sun never set, sometimes to our own detriment, and earned a hatred and mistrust that still persist, so we are hardly fit to preach. Perhaps the USA could learn from our mistakes however?

I seem to remember one of my uncles telling me stories of when he served in Aden (now Yemen,) good terrain for skirmishing and ambush apparently, he said everybody seemed to use dry riverbeds as roads in the absence of a safe transport network. Not good for a high tech land invasion one suspects.