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I don't think that F3 being isometric is out of the question, the Oblivion engine should be able to handle it (provided they made some concessions for the camera and such) A lot of people think that it's going to be The Elder Scrolls: The Road Warrior, and given the way Todd Howard talks and the way Bethesda has made games recently I suppose that's a way to look at it, but I don't see how it could be a foregone conclusion (it seems obvious to me that they'd treat Fallout differently than TES) and as I've mentioned several times in the past, Fallout is my Star Wars, and I have to hope. I really hope Bethesda retains the qualities that (I believe) made Fallout Fallout which were notably 1. A well-rounded classless system 2. A strong emphasis on consequences to PC action 3. Unusually competent writing and dialogue 4. Gallows humor and 5. 1950's "Science!". I have no doubt that they'll probably attempt the latter two, but the first three may be neglected. I don't consider the isometric perspective to be a integral part of Fallout. That's my tangent! As for Deus Ex and Fallout, I kind of see it, yes. Never played Lionheart (sort of want to) so I guess I shouldn't even be in this thread "

I can't tell you guys who to vote for (hell, vote conservative) but I can tell you to be glad you don't live in America. Things are only getting worse here, politics-wise.

The latter. It's either all editing or no editing. You have to understand, George Lucas is only doing this to appease those who can't seem to realize what a visionary he is. To edit them without changing them would be admitting that they were better as they were, before Lucas made them his through revision. "In response to overwhelming demand, Lucasfilm Ltd. and Twentieth Century Fox Home Entertainment will release attractively priced individual two-disc releases of Star Wars, The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi. Each release includes the 2004 digitally remastered version of the movie and, as bonus material, the theatrical edition of the film. That means you'll be able to enjoy Star Wars as it first appeared in 1977, Empire in 1980, and Jedi in 1983." So you'll get the revised, polished edition and the untouched original. Honestly though, I'm just going to hand him more cash for this. Maybe if I give him enough he won't butcher Indy 4.

"It totally destroys whole idea of Anakin bringing balance to Force" Heh, the thought of Hayden Christensen bringing balance to anything gives me a rash.

I never really "modded" Bloodlines, so to speak, except to replace the music when I could. "The New Khans" became the Santa Monica music and I put some Autechre in for Downtown LA, and they both worked without a hitch (the Autechre fit perfectly with the setting, too. I was proud of myself). However, you'd have to save your game before going anywhere, since a lot of .mp3s cause the club areas to crash, for some reason. Anybody know why that is? And for posterity I'm going to ask my original Bloodlines question again: Do the "History" options added in the latest community patch change the actual RP elements of the game, or do they merely affect stats?

I used dual sabers, so as to utilize as many rockin' crystals as I could. I pwned those kath hounds, I'll tell you.

Seems to me like the "True Sith" were more nods to HP Lovecraft than anything. They are the Great Old Ones. Power beyond imagining, and they're just waiting outside known space for the stars to align... As for Sidius, I thought he was boring.

I don't know if .gifs are okay, but I'm giving it a shot!

The "hobby shop" (ie geek mecca) in my town. I bought the used DC there + all the games they had for about $40. They included Nights, Sega Smash Pack I, Prince of Persia 3D, and Soul Caliber. I tracked down Crazy Taxi in Denver. I think somebody's been had, and it may have been me. *edit - Another thing, the DC controller is the 2nd most akwardly designed controller ever, behind that (Calico-vision?) 16-button joystick.

Electric Six - Germans in Mexico Electric Six - Dance Commander LCD Soundsystem - Disco Infiltrator

Hmm, I have a Dreamcast port. Believe me, a lot of my friends come over to play it and listen to that goddamned music over and over. Given the (relatively) large Dreamcast modding community out there, it's possible it's not "natural", but whoever bootlegged it did a damn fine job.

You can say that again. I'm pissed that I can't find an adequate emulator on the net. I can find Master System emulators, but they just suck. I'll say this. I never played a Dreamcast game I actually liked. Nights: Blah, despite the fact that everybody seems content to wank over it. Crazy Taxi: Kind of entertaining, but the handling is botched, and you can't run over people. Prince of Persia 3D: Boring. Quake 3 was kind of good, but it's a port, so it doesn't count. Same with GTA2. It's telling that the Sega Smash packs are the only releases I liked. Streets of Rage 2! Altered Beast! w00t. *edit- bah, I forgot about Soul Caliber. That was good. So my previous statement was fallacious. Disregard!

Devil beats air. *Note- I'm trying to get a hang of this "attachment" system of yours. Ostensibly, you'd be able to link up the music you're listening to, or the things you're looking at?

Have you heard his music? They should keep him in there just for that. He had a blog a few years ago. Read the first post, then never came back. I don't know if it's still up (I would guess that it isn't). He wrote like a third-string tabloid writer. It was actually pretty creepy.

Long live Space Race!

FOT:BOS is really its own game, and while it strays from canon and loses most of the Fallout humor, it's still an adequate game, and an interesting play. FO:BOS, however, you'll want to stay away from. I approached it with an open mind (ie before I knew it was so antagonized by the FO community) and man, it was terrible. Repetitive gameplay, bad design all around, incredibly bad story elements. It was a disaster. Absolutely no redeeming value at all.

Well, if you could kill a kid. I believe there's a mod for it out there, but according to Beth, the reason kids weren't included in the game seems to have more to do with clipping issues than anything else. Dunno if I believe it, but the original point is still a true one. Christ, you can break into somebody's house and even though they tell you to leave, if you initiate dialogue they'll act as if nothing's wrong. That's just sloppy.

The Road Warrior. It's practically Fallout canon It's certainly better than the original Mad Max and the third one, that's for sure.

"WHat are some games that have real consequences? I can't think of any at the moment." Fallouts. Kill a kid, get a stigma that follows you for the rest of the game. If you killed a kid in Oblivion, you'd pay a fine at the local thieves' guild.

Yeah, I got to that point. But I stupidly put only 1 dedicated fighter into my party at the beginning of the game, so I got my ass kicked. Bad times.

Well, yes. The fault in Oblivion really isn't in its non-linearity. Non-linearity can work to great effect, as long as you're willing to pick up some of the slack (case in point: Fallout, which I am a whore for) The fault is in the fact that it's just too safe. "You are the chosen one. Go forth and slay evil!" is not a way to move a game. The entire writing aspect of Oblivion isn't even fantasy-lite. Hell, at least D&D has some nuance to it.

HAN SOLOOOO. the pimp de la resistance.

Can't blame them for going out on a limb. No, no, that's not right, I can blame them. I will blame them. They've absolutely butchered Transformers, for chrissakes. Megatron is now an autobot (at least, he's not a a real decepticon) who's not evil, he's just "conflicted". **ckin Micheal Bay, man. I don't know why they don't just do us all a favor and change the name of the movie to "Transformers: Gundam Wing"

So people, has anybody played Fallout PnP in any capacity (as player or DM/GM/whatever?) What did you think? I've been trying to accrue tips for DMing Fallout, as far as keeping everything organized and tru to the setting goes. Anybody care to enlighten me with some?

It is slimming, and it's always fashionable. Tends to convey an air of authority, as well.