alanschu

It's not your fault. You're a product of the State of Cynicism.

This isn't 1337 speak.

Hmmmm...... If you're going to reload after mistakes, then I think that makes your previous claims less impressive. I don't think you can rightly say you've only lost one battle if that is the case.

I think Aribeth's quick decision is what prompts many people to come to the conclusion.

The hype is the type of player they will come. Besides, it's quite clear this discussion was never about what he does in his rookie year alone. You're trying to sidestep the issue. You were the one, after all, talking about putting up 130-160 point seasons, and I'm pretty sure you aren't expecting that to happen this year. Don't forget players like Eric Staal either. And since you brought it up, Gretzky's first year in the NHL had him tied with Marcel Dionne for 1st in points, with a 12 point lead over Lafleur and a 31 point lead over 4th place Perrault. And the only reason why Mario didn't crack the top 10 was because he missed 7 games in his season. Though Sid is crushing both of them in PIMs. Sid better pick it up if he wants to break the top 10 in points, and it's not going to get any easier with Palffy (and to a lesser extent Lemieux) out of the picture.

Nope. I'm talking the entire league. He hasn't played long enough to live up to the hype. EDIT: Don't forget about players like Staal either. Or Spezza, or anyone else for that matter. Besides, I'm not even sure how you interpreted that as my definition. I said be alone, at a level beyond elite status. Considering he's not even in the top 10 in scoring, he's clearly not there yet.

You still have to click on the target. Careful, he's fast! See if you can do it without pausing!

No no no, that's when you give a Gabs like response, and say "It just is" or "If I have to explain that wretched filth, I don't know if I'd be able to live with myself" or something else cynical.

We are talking BG here. *draws out Sword of Balduran and kills it with one hit* <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That would require the manual dexterity of moving and swinging the sword. I'm just not so sure you have it. Never! It is the epitome of irony, and hilarity!

Hmmmm, I think Volo and I have different interpretations of the "Chosen One" term. I'd consider NWN to be one, as well as KOTOR. I have not played JE enough.

Play at a level that goes beyond mere "elite" status. It doesn't necessarily mean alone. For instance (since we like to bring them up), Mario and Wayne were both pretty dominating players, and while Wayne did have a lot more points, Mario was right up there with him. If it's say Crosby and a few others, that are all clearly at a different plateau of ability, I'd say yes. If it is Crosby, with Kovalchuk, Nash, Ovechkin, Heatley, Staal, Spezza, and Thornton, then I'd say no. And this isn't to say that it'd be a poor career. It's more a testament to how silly hyped up he was. Which all stemmed from the fact that I was happy he isn't running away with the Calder, because all of that preseason hype would still be going on. Not that it's gone. There are people (many of them Pittsburgh fans, not surprisingly) that go absolutely ape**** if you mention Ovechkin and Crosby in any sort of comparison.

You obviously seem more informed than me. I'm thinking Ab & On are not on the list because they already have all the money and must spread the wealth. So the rich must give to the poor. What's wrong with that? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I never said anything is wrong with that. And yes, they aren't on the list because they spread out the wealth. You said: "Actually, Ontario and Alberta get more money then Quebec. Our PM(if you can call him that...) has been asking for a more equal sharing of Federal economy for years and it is one of the thing he(it?) hope the conservatives will implement. " Furthermore, my point was brought up that Quebec receives a lot of money from the other provinces. This just a fact. It's not an inference, nor a judgement, so please don't make it one. If Quebec became independent, they would lose this. EDIT: A bang up job quoting yourself there Reinoc. If you are referring to my question about how are Canadian's "strangers" to you, you should probably quote that so I know what you're talking about. Unless you just liked to make it exceptionally clear that the "we" was separatists? So how are Canadians "strangers" to you? What does separating from Canada do for you? Why is it so important? How will things be different, after secession?

It's not. You're the one that keeps trying to bring that back. If Yzerman numbers have him dominating his era (which if you were actually reading my posts, you'd see I have been saying that as well) in such a way that he's in a level beyond elite. Actually, where did I actually state Gretzky-like numbers? You're the one fixated on Gretzky's numbers. Here's all of my posts on the issue: No Gretzky numbers No Gretzky Numbers No Gretzky Numbers No Gretzky numbers, and I already conceded my jumping to conclusions when looking at Mario's QMJHL points. No Gretzky numbers No Gretzky Numbers No Gretzky Numbers. (And even here I mentioned Yzerman career) Hmmm, my first reference to the numbers not having to be absolute, yet relative. Though you did continue to harp on that I was somehow saying he needs to have Gretzky numbers. EDIT: QUOTE TAGS NOT WORKING ANYMORE QUOTE: -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Even the fact that you acknowledge that he has the "possibility" of breaking his records implies much more than just being the next dominant player of his era. I'm not saying that he is expected to break it. But he must be able to put up totals that can make you think it's a "possibility" that he could break a record...in your own words. If I read "way more" in to the hype, then so did everyone else. How many people point out the lacrosse goal and stuff like that. The kid has been receiving HUGE praise for a long time already, and is even known to non-hockey fans. ENDQUOTE: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- This is my first real reference to Gretzky numbers....which was a response to something that YOU brought up. I wasn't the one that brought up that he has the "possibility" of breaking records. It was you! And it was already after I had mentioned that I recognized it had to be relative. I'd keep quoting, but it's recent enough you can just scroll up the damn page. You were the one that brought up breaking Gretzky's records. Even you stated that the hype means a possibility of breaking Gretzky's records.

What? How can you get publicity if it's not public? Or are you talking about this current "hype" about how they might be doing KOTOR? Even then, I doubt that's going to help their three unannounced project to sell. You're making the situation more complex than it needs to be.

If it was possible to walk all the way back to the beginning without facing any conflict to get back to the beginning, then all they did was save people the tedium of walking all the way back when they implemented the portal.

I know many people that loved Morrowind on the XBOX. When I was working in a restaurant a few years ago, pretty much the entire kitchen was playing it. And yes Blank, Atari would be the best company to contact. Good luck.

Indeed. And a large part of NWN's effort went to making it a perfect Online and Modding experience, with the toolkit and DM-mode and such... When you read previews and interviews with BioWare before the release of NWN you should have known that it wouldn't had such a SP part as a BG 2 Except you're making an assumption that the majority of people would have extensively followed the game in preproduction. Then, you are making an assumption that they would be interested in this modding and online experience. The fact of the matter is, as Bioware themselves have stated the majority of people that purchased the game, bought it for the single player. I would wager that it is an insiginifcant minority of people that actively follow the development of a game on the internet. Seriously...are you daft? You try to make arguments out of something that just isn't there. It's not an admission that there "had to be something wrong with the SP-part." Stop generalizing your experiences over the majority of gamers. Bioware had made quality single player campaigns in the past, and even if it was publicly stated that "it's not going to be as good as BG2" (I doubt they said it like that anyways), I can guarantee that the customers were hoping it would be better than what it was. Your grasping at thin air, when Bioware themselves have stated, numerous times, that the primary audience of the NWN game were single player gamers. It doesn't matter what convoluted idea you have, or what impression you had when following the game. You're wrong.

That's one of the stupidest things I've seen on here for quite some time. There are people out there still buying used P3 500MHz machines with crap video cards because all they want is Internet access. I doubt you'd consider any recent game running on those machines as "playable." Furthermore, it only makes a difference if the installed base you described were avid video gamers. As someone that only plays PC games and hasn't owned a new console in 7 years, I still recognize that the installed base of console gamers far exceeds the amount of computer gamers. Otherwise, there wouldn't be this trend towards consoles that you keep harping your hatred towards.

From what I understand, the audience overlaps quite a bit.

What is wrong with it? Buying NWN only for the OC is like buying BattleField 2 only for SinglePlayer... A waste of your cash... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Because the intention of Battlefield 2 is a multiplayer online FPS. You called into question the intelligence of people that purchased the game exclusively for the OC. Which, according to Bioware, is the majority of people that purchased the original NWN game. Many people enjoyed the previous adventures Bioware made. It's not unreasonable to expect that people would have bought the game hoping for a similiar experience. According to Bioware, many people bought the game with the intentions of a rich single player experience. Their intent was to try to amend that with Hordes of the Underdark, as they had received complaints that their OC (and SoU too IIRC) did not live up to their previous efforts.

Alberta gets more money? In what way? We've long been declared a "have" province because of our oil revenues and pay into equalization payments. You will definitely need to validate what you just said, considering the Government of Canada states straight up that Alberta does not receive equalization payments. Here's a chart of the equalization transfers. There's a reason both provinces you mention aren't even listed (because they never receive money via the transfer). This information already has Quebec at a 6 million dollar headstart. I'd like to see where you got your data that indicates otherwise. And if it is true that Alberta got more money, then it's just another indication that the recent governments are retarded and don't know how to handle money, because we don't need it! And I haven't even touched on things such as Trudeau's NEP and all that.

Hear that? It's the sound of the point going right over your head. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You do seem to be familiar with that sound.

How sad. You buy an "not that great" game, and then you only use the worst parts of it... Ah well, consumer "Intelligence" it seems... EDIT; No, the *you* is not aimed to Alanschu, but to any random person buying NWN <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That's awfully judgemental and self-righteous. I'd suggest getting off your high horse.

I'd imagine a strategy such as "the big friggin' wall" only really works on defense?

I'm pretty sure the main point of NWN is its single player, as Bioware themselves stated that the majority of the people that played NWN only played the OC. It was all part of their explanation of why Hordes of the Underdark did not officially support multiplayer.