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Muse - City of Delusion

Lamb - Ear Parcel

Fischerspooner - The 15th

I lold when he wrote "the racist ones".

Fields of the Nephilim - Xiberia Getting high on that track

Religion should not be in school, and sex education should - I cannot see how those two things are equivalent. I can see how he got the idea, as sex and religion fall into a similar category from that perspective.Also from my perspective, history and overview of religion(s) are a good thing to learn at school.

Hocico - Untold Blasphemies Ok, this is on the "TODO"-list, as they're from Mexiko and probably won't come here again for quite some time and they remind me of Decoded Feedback, which is good. Does anyone know what Tristania's new female singer sounds like? How's Trail of Tears? Anyone ever heard of Portion Control? Kivimets

Paradise Lost - Requiem Not my taste, this one. Currently deciding what we'll be listening to at the festival... As we'll have the chance to see Paradise Lost again soon after, it probably won't be at this event.

Actually, no You and Krookie got it wrong. If you think that, it's obvious why you consider it private, or be "taught" by family rather than at school. Just a shift of perspective to my own (support role is interchanged), but from the statement above, this difference is easily explained Also:

True, as this contains topics like diseases, anatomy, female period and all things related to contraception. A biology teacher should be a better informer with more thorough knowledge on such things than most parents.

Ah, I see, now I don't have much to complain about anymore Btw, one vs. two video-cards wasn't what I meant, I just have a problem with SLI (and Crossfire for that matter), be it on-card (as is the case with the 9800GX2) or 'normal' with two cards, because the speed-'increase' they provide isn't as big as the FPS numbers would suggest.

Not really

Fields of the Nephilim - Straight to the light (the whole 'Mourning Sun' album actually) Hehe, they stylistically approached their offspring bands (Last Rites and NFD) with this track Isn't a good thing regarding this track, actually... Fields of the Nephilim - Xiberia (Seasons in the ice cage). Whoa, rocks!

Nice, pre-overclocked fast system, but with one-card SLI, without soundcard but inexpensive 7.1 surround sound system? Wouldn't be my case exactly, but I hope you'll enjoy the speed of this monster

Glad you wrote "chocolate cake" here, because actually he'd deserve something else men enjoy forcefully shoved down his throat by someone he trust(ed until that moment and then never again for the rest of his hopefully miserable life amongst disease ridden rats in a stinky sewer used as deposit not only for excrements but also for rusting grenades of ages luckily long past). [edit] It somehow doesn't sound as serious as I meant it. And stating that doesn't seem to make it better *hrrmp*

*gg* fun. But "no sex no STD" is not true, I even bothered to write some tiny examples in order to not appear as purely trollish No, it doesn't go. Dieting isn't natural either I'm not going to switch too far into nutrition-topic, so I'll leave the vegetarianism out. Also, I don't deny that the surroundings do have a big influence on perception of this subject but this again is too absolute: As your own example with the dedicated christians showed, it's just not what feels good and right for your body but rather what feels good for your moral principles. Moral principles however are a cultural phenomenon, thus fall into the same category as 'social climate'. You see where I'm getting at? Both is an influence one should be able to choose to follow of course. It's just not one that should be taught at school as primary principle. What kids should learn imho is that there are these influences, and there probably are their bodily urges, and what can happen if you follow either or both of them, and how to do it responsibly. And this is what this thread's topic is all about.Yay, I'm back to topic

Doesn't always work as intended, unfortunately.

I don't think so - but I cannot remember the music either. Where was it? Also, the, so-called, unofficial "patch" changed music (although the most resent releases might not, I use the True patches or the 1.2 patch) in some areas. Well, it wasn't that track. It was the one in the church with Venus that was quite a bit too low in volume, and not an all too interesting piece anyway.

i'm guessing not one of you all has a clue as to what OBE really is. testament to it's success in dumbing down the world, IMO. OBE is, in its purest form, teach people ONLY what they are good at, i.e., determining their best outcome then teaching them that, and that alone. it is socialism in its purest form. the purpose of OBE is to create masses of people that do specific things, but are not educated broadly enough to understand exactly why they are sheep. setting test scores high in graduate class is not OBE. sheesh. think for a moment, too, less than 40% of the population gets in to college, and not all graduate. only 10% of those get a master's degree and less than 1% (of the graduates) get a PhD or similar. subject difficulty alone sets the threshold on these degrees. mandatory testing is the other thing that is really damaging education, perhaps the first step towards true OBE (gee, billy just can't seem to get <insert arbitrary threshold here>, maybe we should only teach him how to cook burgers?). of course, public teaching by itself is a liberal concept, so that it even exists is pretty damaging. the only way to control the masses is to control the way they think. you guys (in general) are my proof that it is working. taks Thanks for the explanation, though you worded it rude enough. I didn't know what OBE was and guessed by the name, that's why I phrased my sentence regarding this concept as a question. GuardDog, I have a question regarding this: How can teaching this be a good thing? Abstinence doesn't even really prevent getting so called STDs like AIDS or certain forms of Hepatitis (via contaminated drug injections, public toilets etc.), nor does it enable anyone to become a happy individual (unless said individual is a very spiritual monk or something).

Look for the most conservative spot on a map of (geographical) europe

Held up by whom? Some director of the national economic comittee lately said that universities should set the barriers of examn results so high that only that as many people as the economy needs* of that specific direction can get their masters degree (or was it even enter master courses?). Isn't that a form of OBE too? *: read: 0 historian, 5 germanists, 0 philosopher, 79 sinologists, 100 lawyers, 100 mbas etc

ASP - Me He wasn't credited for that (too silent) track in V:tM B, was he?

Cool. That means that in my country, the capitalists adopt a socialst idea. Of course not in its entiety, otherwise it wouldn't be mandatory to be present during each lesson...

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As it is here (ok, maybe the agenda is hidden very well, but that's not my point ), and yes, it's good that way imo. Fair enough, but in the end, if we have the possibility to prevent such situation simply by informing them about sex and consequences in school, why shouldn't we? It even is one of the more practical things taught at school, as being able to do perform integral/differential math is nice, but knowing about your own physiology, diseases and such is important. Huh? Even less of one than there is in the US? You're kidding, right?