Jediphile

Worth only money and perhaps a few xp (not sure). Not missing out on anything if you skip it, though. There is little or no need for money in TSL, and you can easily get the same xp in other ways, so it's only important if you absolutely must turn every little the stone the game has. I happen to be one those people, though

Well, I don't have it. Not my favorite part of the game, but I do count it better than most.

Well, I'm ambivalent about Kreia myself. I love her as a character and respect her as an insightful teacher. Her dedication to the truth despite norms and her defiance of the will of the force are inspiring and admirable. That they might be misguided only makes her efforts more compelling. But she is willing to sacrifice the innocent and abuse and manipulate others to achieve her goals, which ultimately stains her intents beyond redemption IMHO. So I'm not surprised if she has made hard choices in the past. She seems to used to it and too cold and indifferent to the resulting suffering, so if she is Kae, then it only underscores that point to me that she was also willing to give up her own daughter. It would even explain how she got to be so cold and calculating - what can be more numbing and damaging for a mother than having to give up her own child to appease the status quo and the norms?

We saw Baltar's imaginary Six push him forward when Roslin tried to outlaw his religious meetings. In fact, she forced him on to such a degree that people argued there was no way should be simply imaginary. However, we've also since seen Baltar meet an imaginary version of himself, so I suspect both are really just an extension of his own imagination. After all, Baltar is about the most pathetic, loathable and cowardly example of what humanity has to offer, but he is also brilliant and would not be able to dismiss his own transgressions and crimes so easily. So I suspect some evil "other" and then blamed that for all the bad things he has done. That he has begun seeing himself instead of Six could mean that he is finally begin to take some responsibility for his choices, which is about time. As Adama said at one point, you cannot make Baltar accept his own crimes, because in his own eyes he will always be the victim. It'll be interesting to see if Baltar will continue to see imaginary versions of Six or himself, after he confessed to Roslin that was the one who gave the cylons the access codes to Caprica, virtually causing the doom of the human race.

Yes. I'm just saying I think LA cared a good deal more about the xmas-sale $$ than they did about impatient fans. Actually, I suspect they cared so little about the latter that it was virtual non-factor...

Actually, I've always jokingly referred to Kreia as mommy, because she's just so motherly toward the Exile the whole damn game. I don't approve of you being too lightsided. I don't approve of you being too dark sided. I don't like the way you've been hanging out with all the girls (if you're a male Exile). So her wanting SO much for the Exile (and I truly believe she loves you, too), but abandoning Brianna, w/o a single thought seems weirdly inconsistant to me. Sure, the Exile's a wound in the force, and Brianna just you run-of-the-mill Jedi, but, what? Well, you're stuck with that problem regardless of whether Kreia is Arren Kae or not. Kae was thrown out of the jedi order about the same time as Kreia, which was around the time when Revan split the order. However, according to Kreia Kae was exiled because it was discovered that she had a child. Now, this is almost a decade before TSL takes place, only Brianna is a lot older than that. According to Avellone, she is 25 in the game. If Kae having a child went undiscovered that long, then she can't have been a significant part of her daughter's life for at least her first fifteen years. And after that, Kae was assumed dead at Malachor V. Either way, Kae gave up her daughter and let her live and be raised by her father with her half-sisters and their mother. So I don't see that as something that speaks against Kreia and Kae being the same person.

At the end of TSL, you're so overloaded with feats, powers, magical items and upgrades that killing the enemy becomes a one-sided walk through the graphics and conversations, even at the highest difficulty setting...

Revan didn't "reunite" the Sith - the founded a new Sith order by corrupting the jedi who followed him. Another problem is that Revan's alignment is fixed as LS in canon. But yes, K3 might shed light on this. Since Revan's alignment is optional, however, I doubt he'll turn out to be the sith'ari. But time, or more likely George Lucas, will tell, I guess

It's fair enough to like him BECAUSE he's cheesy. I still think a better villain would have been more fun, and thus Malak hurt the game IMHO. It's still good, he didn't ruin it, but he hurt it, I think. Few things are worse than the disgustingly clich

So LA looking ahead and seeing ROTS on the horizon and looking back seeing xmas-$$ wasn't a deciding factor? Come on...

Me too. I suspect Revan of deliberately falling to the dark side (unless he already was) and then become part of the true Sith to make a claim for the position of dark lord. Those in power would naturally resist this, and so civil war ensues, weakening the true Sith and buying time for the Republic.

LA knows how to target their primary demographic, I guess But honestly, I find Shaak Ti's attire in this to be rather tacky. She's supposed to be a jedi, and look at what eye-candy she's been reduced to

It says that it's restricted to DS, and it is if you don't put the <FULLNAME> crystal in the same lightsaber, which I'm telling you I've done while being LS. I just checked again, and it works. It doesn't tell you it'll work - it tells you the opposite - but it does. And I didn't cheat to do it either. ill have to check that out, but my point is they made a ds crystal, why not a ls one as well There is the Solari crystal. That's restricted to light side, isn't it? Then again, it's generated randomly, unlike the Qixoni which is bought on Onderon, so you could play many times and not get it.

I can believe this. But that makes Kreia a HORRIBLE mother. Why would that surprise you? She's not exactly too lovable to being with

Have you heard Malak's laugh?

Yeah... You know what that means. I am saving that one. Funny as hell. If you like that, make sure to click at the bottom of my sig for a good... well, an argument anyway

It says that it's restricted to DS, and it is if you don't put the <FULLNAME> crystal in the same lightsaber, which I'm telling you I've done while being LS. I just checked again, and it works. It doesn't tell you it'll work - it tells you the opposite - but it does. And I didn't cheat to do it either.

I would be one of those. The reason is pretty well illustrated here: http://fromearth.net/LetsPlay/KOTOR%202/Up...2058/index.html

I wouldn't have liked that, since I like Revan. That said, I might have gone for it just at the thought of how utterly it would annoy all the shameless Revan fanboys

Are you playing the pc version or the xbox? Not sure if your game is bugged, but I've always found the Onderon swoop race challenging, and I think it's supposed to be. But yes, it does jump pretty high. I don't think I've ever won it using the keys only (I play the pc version), but only when I got around to using my trackball and memorizing the course. Even then it takes practice.

My pleasure.

Doesn't quite ring a bell, but maybe you're thinking of this... Kreia: "It is sometimes... difficult to find truth in the Jedi Civil War.Was it the Republic that defeated Malak, or was it Revan? If it was Revan, then the Republic was never truly tested.A culture's teachings, and most importantly, the nature of its people, achieve definition in conflict. They find themselves... or find themselves lacking. Too long did the Republic remain unchallenged. It is a stagnant beast that labors for breath... and has for centuries. The Jedi Order was the heart that sustained its sickness - now the Jedi are lost, we shall see how long the Republic can survive."

Ah, that's the "rotating puzzle" in Vogga's warehouse, right? If it is, the point here is that the each four symbols can be turned both clockwise or counterclockwise like a dial, and since there are two line with four symbols in each, that gives us three "dials" - the four to the left, the four in the middle, and the four to the right. It's a nice little challenge to figure out, so I recommend you think about how to do it. It's not that difficult really. But if you can't wait, here's the total spoiler

Where? Sure, teh glowing spine is one example, but it's what I consider a "that didn't happen" kind of scene in that it is there to illustrate something to us as viewers, not to express something that happened in the plot. You can call that a plothole, but then we've also seen Roslin, Six and Athena chase after Hera in the opera house and Baltar being downloaded as a cylon, all of which we know are dreams. And the less said about Baltar's imaginary Six in this regard the better... You may think I read too much into things. Fair enough. But I happen to like speculating about these things, and I don't think I'm doing anything wrong by posting my musings. If people don't like it or don't agree but don't want to argue it, then they are free to not read my posts or not reply to them or both. Moore is one of the more consistent guys around when it comes to this sort of thing. Maybe not Straczynsky, but DS9's plot was fairly solid if examined. But be assured I'll be calling foul, if he begins contradicting himself wildly. I recently pointed to Galactica going to the carnage of The Hub's destruction and then getting back to the fleet soon enough to make Apollo president and lots of things, while the basestar itself got there much later in spite of allegedly jumping back right away. A very minor plothole, but not terribly consistent nonetheless. Didn't ruin the story, though, which is more important to me. Such as? Yes, we want to apply logic, because that's how we solve puzzles. Battlestar Galactica is a puzzle. Who is the last cylon? What has happened to Earth? What happened to Starbuck when she apparently died? I like speculating about these things. If you don't, then fair enough, but don't tell me I can't. As for this disease, we can argue it would not spread if it was so insignificant to humans that it was immediately or very quicked destroyed by the human immune system. And that's just one possibility.

They are already significantly different. You can't just draw an arbitrary border on what point you think makes them being one of the 12 models is irrelevant. I can draw a border between the spiritual and the physical. They ARE cylons physically. And we KNOW that cylons CAN reproduce, because Helo and Athena did, and Tyrol and Callie did as well. Now, even you dismiss Tyrol from that on the basis of him being one of the final five, Athena is still just one of the seven known models who up until her were unable to reproduce. That allows us to conclude that the inability to reproduce among the known cylons is not based on the physical, because she did not undergo a physical change or transformation in order to gain the ability to reproduce. Besides, you're the one saying the final five are so different that it's reasonable to assume the have the same immunity as humans do, so who is drawing an arbitrary border here? After all, you still give no reason for why that assumption is reasonable, except "they are different", which you don't tell us is significant to your point in what way. All I'm saying is that the final five are different. Thus being different, you cannot say they have to follow the same rules as the original. Thus, you can't say Helo can't be one of them because he doesn't follow the same rules. I'm not saying they don't follow many of the the same rules or this particular rule. I'm saying you no longer have any basis to say that they do. All I was doing was calling into question. With it called into question, Helo is then a possibility. Only if you decide to ignore all the clues we've been given in the series. I have expained why. But naturally you still have provided no basis whatsoever for your position except "the final five are different." Am I not allowed to know what that basis is? Disagree with me, if you will. That's fine. But you do not provide counterarguments to support your position, I will assume you have none and consider your position flawed and wholly unsupported.