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" The intent of not including kill XP is to prevent (unfun) things like grinding. " While I'm not a big fan of grinding for grinding sake this idea that 'grinding' in of itself is 'unfun is bogus. It's super bogus when entire games are made where 'grinding' is the entirety of the game and those games ar epopular and the player base finds it fun. *cough* Diablo series *cough* I'm no huge Diablo series fan. Played 1 and enjoyed it well enoguh. Have not played part 2 or 3. So, you just bashed tons of players who enjoyed and had fun with Diablo, IWD, and a host of other games. LMAO Anyways, you still haven't clarified - how is killing the ogre worth xp but not the beetles? because a NPC tells you to kill him. Come on.

"^because the devs decided that killing your way through those beetles and finding the cave and getting past the spiders AND dealing with the ogre was worth [number]XP Or didn't you read my point about 'delayed reward'?" But, killing the beetles has nothing to do with the cave. Their just random monster on a area map. they have no connection to the ogre. In fact, you may very well be on that map for some non ogre related reason. "'Run away from' = deal with the threat 'Sneak past' = deal with the threat" Neither of these are 'dealing with the threat'. The threat is still there. Now, negoiating (can't be done with beetles obviously) and killing are dealing with the threat. Again, why is the ogre worth xp but not the beetles? Because you were told by a NPC to talk/kill him? Huh. "There are multiple ways to overcome the threats - the game just takes into account that you did it and then awards xp / you get to the cave / piglet-pet / etc" The cave/piglet has NOTHING to do with the beetles. Anyways, now my actual dev question is buried. L0L Well done. A serious question now ruin by the 'must do what the npc tell you to do to get rewrad'c rew won. I'll leave it there until the Obsidianites answer it (if they do). It's a fair question. Why shouldn't the PC be rewarded for overcoming the beetles in a meaningful way that helps them grow their abilities which is what xp is supposed to represent? Hmm.. "This is why Numenera P&P doesn't give you exp for killing creatures Because the game designers know that if you are rewarded exp for killing them, player feels that most optimal solution is killing them instead of role playing it in any other way." Don't speak for me. You certainly don't speak for me as a player.

"Also, I think this currently has its own thread." I'm asking a question to do with the video. It belongs here. "Quest does not equal objective (In one vid, Adam killed the ogre before getting the quest from the farmer and still got the xp)" So.. why is the ogre worth xp but not the beetles? Does not make sense. Maybe I hate beetles and my objective is to kill every one. I should get xp for that. Xp should be about 'learning' (in the abstract obviously it's exactly the same). There is no logical reason why a party that defeats those beetles should NOT get any xp for it. NONE

"Seems like a perfectly relevant point to me. If you don't enjoy combat, why demand that something coax you into combat? And if you DO enjoy combat, then you're already happy with your choice to partake in it, before XP even factors into the equation. At that point, the only reason you'd be upset is if your choice to partake in as much combat as possible yielded an XP detriment as compared to other lines of choosing. Which won't be the case here, so what's the issue? Also, the reason for not always getting XP for the act of killing is the same as the reason for not always getting XP for the act of disarming traps. "I get 20XP every time I disarm a trap! 8D! Oh look! A field of bear traps! Time out, party! I don't enjoy disarming dozens of bear traps, but we're gonna scour EVERY ounce of this forest for them, and disarm every single one! THANKS, developers! Without that XP incentive, I wouldn't have had this great reason to make choices I don't enjoy in the least! ^___^"" You shoudln't get xp for anything then. Why? You should have fun no matter what right? You shoudlw ant to complete quests because they're good quests not because of xp, gold, or other rewards right? The experience itself should be enough.

." Should they give you xp for killing deer too?" Deer aren't trying to kill. Bad comparison. "You get the assumably valuable materials from the dead animal and open up areas that might have dungeons, treasure or quests. That's good enough." So.. you only learn stuff if someone tells you do stuff? WTH? presumably your character who survive the beetle battle would learn something. That is what xp is supposed to be aboout. EPIC FAIL on your fanboyism excuse. Killing the ogre next you xp because you were told to kill him (or talk to him) but killing the beetles don't? LOGIC. NOT NEEDED . The game looks terrific but this could turn into a horrible BL situation. I hope not as the game deserves more than that.

"Because they're not being killed. If they were the ones who were getting slaughtered, I would've advocated protection for them instead. I think you would too. But in this case, you prefer not to." Yeah, they are. Why do you lie?

Here's a question for the Obsidianites: The beetle fights seem like just random wilderness encounters not tied to any quest. Do you get any xp for them at all or wasting resources on them is just wasteful? This is where 'battle xp' (or soemthing similiar) would be useful and why 'quest xp only' falls short.

"What is happening in Ferguson is amazing and horrifying. It showcases the underlying racism that is pretty well sown in our society. The YouTube of that police officer begging the protestors to attack them, calling them animals. The entire situation is screwed beyond control and belief." I agree. The racist (both white and black) are disgusting pieces of crap.

Liking and playing video games/pnp doesn't make one cool. I should know. I play and like those things and I'm most certainly not cool. Robin Williams was cool because he was Robin Williams.

"If Russia decided to protect russian speaking ukrainians in Ukraine, there would've been no deaths going on right now." L0L Because non Russian speaking Ukranians in Ukraine aren't human right? Right. Putin can't even protect Russians in Russian. How many murders has he coommitted in Russia? How much property has he stolen in Russia" How many innocent victims have been framed because of his scummery? How many fake elections have occured sinc ehe took power? L0LZ

KOTOR combat was subpar no matter what it was played on. DA combat is vastly better nop matter what it was played on and it did not play KOTOR except in the most superficial of ways. KOTOR is NWN/BG/DA supra light.

"Console DAO was indeed dire." Console DA > PC DA = FACT

Jumanji > Zelda

"That's all nice and well, until the funeral of a loved one is being picketed by Westboro." Let the bastards bring it on.

No, I defend people's rights to speak and not get murdered over it.

L0L male problems L0L

"And those that would actually do that would probably have their faces kicked in by bystanders, and deservedly so." So, you believe in violence but not in words. You are evil and a nazi. Don't say bad things or I will murder you. L0L0L Power and control. Everyone must think the same and if they don't they don't deserve to live. HAHAHA!! That's the real world.

"Its funny you say that but about 3 weeks ago I was talking to this girl at a bar and I said "I'm a feminist, do you care about the struggle for gender equality" ( the truth is she was arrogant and I could tell this would annoy her ) anyway she said to me " you should speak to my friend, she cares about feminism " ( I knew she was being sarcastic ) so I went to her friend and said "hi, your friend told me you care about feminism" ....she gave her friend this annoyed look and said to me " well I will have to have a chat to her about that " :lol:" They thought you were using it as a pick up line.

"If Obsidian took all of our money and made a first-person shooter instead of a top-down isometric RPG, people would be angry." Horrible comparison. I doubt very much people would lob rockets at Obsidian. 'would be very angry' L0L

"This is your interpretation of the word and this is simply wrong" It's a real world interpretation. Kirottu wins.

"I´m a very active member of the bioboards and just flying over the posts about the dragon age games is telling what they are about and what not." You hate them but you hate them but you are a very active member on their forums? Okayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy...................

Bruce is about power and control. he wants people to think exactly like him. One must conform or be an undesireable and be put to death. That's Bruce's ideal world. Diffeirng opinions is a GOOD thing even if it's soemthing we don't want to hear or read.

That's why you don't wait til the mage is almost dead. You do it as soon as they decide to attack him. If you wait til you have single digit hit points you deserve to die.

Gay means happy. Yeah. Definitions change. Bittom line is feminism by its very nature is sexist. Just like 'tomboy' is.

By far the best video for the game. I really liked it. Good stuff.