Volourn

"You all just need to grow the **** up. I personally thought the joke before the edit in the patch was harmless and people getting offended were just some drama queens. After the patch and the edit, i also feel its a freaking joke on how people are geting offended because Obisidan took it out. This is a freaking non issue and i cant stop laughing out loud at all the people giving the game 0 in metacritic just because of this non issue. Basically, GROW THE HELL UP and .... really.... i suggest this to everyone getting their butt hurt over this issue..... STOP WATCHING THE KARDASHIANS, THIS ISNT A REALITY SHOW, THERE IS NO NEED TO TURN IT INTO A DRAMA" Says the one getting all DRAMATIC! L0LZ

If you think for one second that if he had said no they would have kept it as is you are delusional. The decision was made once Sawyer piped up. The backer had ZERO say. They probably allowed him to do the new limerick so he wouldn't make a stink. I guarantee he had NO say in the matter. NONE.

"The backers content was changed with the backer's consent after all." No. He had no choice. What do you think Obsidian does if he tells them no? Come on, tell me.

"What's he feeding that thing?" IE fans.

There is so many nasty non PC stuff in the game. Don't forget the rape, referring to women as 'fire whores', husband murder, etc., etc. TONS. But, this limerick cause them to cry. IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE. "Obsidian is one of the few companies left still willing to make old school RPGs, both 'SJW' and anti-SJW sides are now detracting from this goal. I hope you all realize what you're doing. EA is probably laughing their asses off. Good job." If Obsidian believed in old skool RPGs they wouldn't be bowing to pressure to those who loathe old skool RPGs to change their game. RIGHT!?! That's what BIO does. Is Obsidian the NEW BIO? I think so.

So the SJW nazis who hate women, minorities, men, and everything else get their way again. These evil punks are about power, control, and slavery. How long til we see 'outrage' about husband murder, referring to women as 'fire whores', rape, racism, and a whole bunch of other nasty stuff? DOES. NOT. MAKE. SENSE. These people have no morals. They aren't about equality. I AM ABOUT EQUALITY. Why is Obsidian anti equality?

"Honestly, I don't understand at all how we can have a game with stillborns being a central subject, with a town full of corpses hanging from a tree, how you murder people left right and center. What about the sanitarium? Isn't that "triggering" to someone?" Don't forget spousal abuse, rape, racism, calling women 'fire whores' and a whole other nasty/non PC stuff. IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE.

"Even if they asked said backer and said backer said it was okay to change it?" You think he really had a choice? What do you think Obsidian does if he tells them he doens't want it changed? L0L He had no choice. NONE. ZERO. NADDA. ZILCH.

"Proof? You're assuming the side you want to believe. Their claim is to the contrary." The proof is that Obsidian put it in the game. It's only been removed because they were bullied, intimidated, and shamed into it. This is UNDISPUTABLE. "Seriously? This is how you want to be seen by others on the internet? I don't care if you disagree with her, that's fine. i find the whole thing bumpkis. But to call her an "it" and a "disgusting creature"?" Truth hurts but it's the truth. Nazis need to be called out.

HAHAHAHA! They called the backer a 'crybaby'. HAHAHAHAHA!

"But here's the thing: if the creators of the game decide that something is in poor taste and want to remove it from their work, that isn't censorship. It's only censorship if they felt forced to do something they wouldn't otherwise have done." They were bullied into it. It wouldn't be in the game if it bothered them. PERIOD. But, the evil nazis made them do it. Of course, the peoms where the wive murders the husband because she caught him cheating is a-ok. LMAO

Evil nazis are evil nazis. "Would the people who are supporting it and saying it shouldn't have been changed have the same attitude if it was a racist joke?" Yes, I don't care. This is a game that allows you to slap a servant woman for ****s and giggles. This is a game where women and, men, and children are hung from a damn tree. This is a game where a 'good' character refers to women as ';fire whores'. This is a game where chidlrena re murdered in cold. This is a game where a husband abuses and murders his wife. This is a game where torture is done for fun and for 'research'. This is a game where racism happens quite a bit. And, some silly limerick needs to be erased? COME ON. But, it's not surprising. Obsidian, BIO, and all these other companies are like JSWs. They hate their own customers. They hate themselves. It's disgusting, shameful, and cowardly. How cna a guy who, again, allows the player to abuse a woman physically somehow get all offended and defended about a lemerick about some loser who kills hismelf because he is pathetic? Sad.

"You're right. Tackled implies that despite only being used as an anti-feminist platform the issues themselves are still being addressed. Perhaps replacing the word "tackled" with "acknowledged" would work better. Insightful as always Volourn." The thread is called PATRIARCHY sarcastically for a reason. It's to show that this nonsense that there' some male conspiracy to destroy/conjugate women is oure nonsense. Highlighting real issues that men actually deal with illustrates that the idea that a 'Patriarchy' exists is pure bull****. take your feels about male suicide and go cry in your spilled male tears.

"Sad how male issues are only tackled through the lens of "HAHA TAKE THAT FEMINISTS" rather than any actual care for the issue itself." Yeah, because the issue of male suicide is gonna be solved by Obsidian posters. L0L

It's rare but does happen.

King of the SJW Journalists Kuchera: http://pastebin.com/SRhC5stD Various nasty comments by him. L0L Feminism = peace & love

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/male-suicide-scandal-uk-men-paying-system-drives-143116878.html#O3DzKUa But, yeah, women have it so much tougher. <> http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/us-idaho-lawsuit-reveals-sexual-assault-by-staff-male-teens-juvenile-detention-centers-1494582 Notice how the word rape isn't used even once.

"To be fair. D&D wizards do represent many, many, things wrong with class design." D&D wizards represent the awesomesauce of class design. They are perfect the way they are.

"You've won me over with your convincing argument." YAY! I won an argument on the internet convincingly. We all know what that still makes me right? :D

"In fact, most dungeons in BG2 are absolutely nothing special, just like in Eternity - and I say that as someone who loves BG2." WRONG. "Expecting a BG 2 amount of content from a 4 million dollar budget seems rather nuts to me." I doubt BG2's budget was really any bigger considering ity was a sequel that took 2ish years and it released in 2000 or 2001(?). That said, PE's size and amount of content is overall fine. "Yeah I'd say POE falls in between BG 1 and BG 2 in terms of content quantity, and I actually think the quality of the content is better than both. Either way, to say this game lacks content is just insane." Better than BG2? Nah, but otherwise I agree. BG1 does some things better than PE but overall PE is the superior game nostalgia aside. But, it should be consideirng a bunch of RPG developing rookies made BG1! It shouldn't be a huge accomplishment.

Oh, so there is no issue with muslim extemists at all. Why is Islam the ONLY religion that seems to be off limits when it comes toc riticism and bashing? Christianity and cathlism surely is bashed way more than Islam. Same with Judaism. Both of those are targets of hate in the west more than Islam. Because, if someone gioes after it all the crybabies come tod efense and whine that it's just aa small subsection that's an issue not the whole group but when a ChristianCatholic/Jew does something wrong (usuaully far less violent than this) it's guns ablazed for those same people. Check out the reaction to the pizza place in Indiana who said in a pretend situatiion than may not make pizza for a gay wedding. They were attacked non stop with harassment, bullying, death rates, etc. And, all of Cathoilicism waas painted with the same brush and labeled evil and 'must be eliminated' cause it is evil. I get it. Not all muslims are extremists. To that, I say duh. Most muslims are like most people and just want to live their live in peace. hwoever, there is definitely something smelly in the Muslim religious practice. This is FACT. It has to be dealt with and not ignored. But, hey, let's pretend that Muslim extremists aren't mass murdering a bunch of inocent people INCLUDING a bunch of innocent Muslims becasuse they don't practice the religion in the same sick and twisted way.

What are you babbling about?

Anyway, I am investigating the punk(s we were sent to find by stronghold psycho... eventually got to me the guy who supposedly turned us into the chosen one aka The Watcher. He goes all psycho and gets all the super crazies and golems to attack us. We kill them in self defense then proceed normal.. the guards and other patients are neutral. we confront the witchdoctor who was doing experiments and told him we're gonna tell on him ('cause i am mr. honest) anyways he gets mad and attack.. go to leave.. the two other animancers in basement + assistnt are still non hostile... however, go to top floor and everything there is now hostile (and weak). so.. is this some sort of bug or is it supposed to happen this way b/c we ended up killing patients and/or the experimenter 9the statue guy did ask us not to to 'pole' the patients but most of the patients. If this a bug it sucks.. if it's the way it's scripted to work ouch seems weird since the guys in the basement are still on my good side.. i did notice the detective people seem to know about what happens there (not exact details). also, animancers just outside of building also aren't hostile.. just the ones on top floor.. hmmm

Uh this thread was meant meant for the spoiler story section damnit.. move this please. .. damn newb i am

"I wouldn't take them at any value. Id just rest." resting is for lazy people who just spam stuff without thought. i'd like to play as long as can w/o resting - prferably only resting in between dungeon romps or when characters actually get tired.