Volourn

l0l No, they didn't.

"Can we have a mod make a locked, sticky topic for this please? Maybe then, people will stop ranting about it and this PR nightmare can be shut down before it gets any worse." You fear discussion? Yup. I believe you do. "Everything else is a conspiracy theory in your head because you deny to end this ****storm. It over. Done. Get over it." TRIGGERED!

"We can either take the Backer at his word" "You should really read Firedorn's posts on the forum, he clearly says the opposite. But you seem to want to call him a liar now... just like they called him a transgender hater on Twitter." I'm not calling HIM a liar at all. read and understand my post. The target of my accusation is NOT him.

They may have told you you had a choice Firedorn but you really didn't. That limerick of yours was being changed no matter what once the ****storm started. This is just a way for them to save face. The decision to make the limerick change was made the moment Sawyer reacted to it on twitter.

"If Firedorn is OK with it, I'm OK with it." He really had no choice. They were gonna change it anyways. This was a way for him to still get his limerick in and still get a nice lashing on those who hate him. But, trust me, even if they told Firedorn that it was his choice it really wasn't. It was never his choice.

"All that matters is whether or not the backer got burned (so to speak) by Obsidian. If Obsidian made the change with the backer's approval; then they did nothing wrong. Period." You keep thinking that if the backer had said no Obsidian would have just shrugged their shoulders in moved on. Are you really that naive?

"You all just need to grow the **** up. I personally thought the joke before the edit in the patch was harmless and people getting offended were just some drama queens. After the patch and the edit, i also feel its a freaking joke on how people are geting offended because Obisidan took it out. This is a freaking non issue and i cant stop laughing out loud at all the people giving the game 0 in metacritic just because of this non issue. Basically, GROW THE HELL UP and .... really.... i suggest this to everyone getting their butt hurt over this issue..... STOP WATCHING THE KARDASHIANS, THIS ISNT A REALITY SHOW, THERE IS NO NEED TO TURN IT INTO A DRAMA" Says the one getting all DRAMATIC! L0LZ

If you think for one second that if he had said no they would have kept it as is you are delusional. The decision was made once Sawyer piped up. The backer had ZERO say. They probably allowed him to do the new limerick so he wouldn't make a stink. I guarantee he had NO say in the matter. NONE.

"The backers content was changed with the backer's consent after all." No. He had no choice. What do you think Obsidian does if he tells them no? Come on, tell me.

"What's he feeding that thing?" IE fans.

There is so many nasty non PC stuff in the game. Don't forget the rape, referring to women as 'fire whores', husband murder, etc., etc. TONS. But, this limerick cause them to cry. IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE. "Obsidian is one of the few companies left still willing to make old school RPGs, both 'SJW' and anti-SJW sides are now detracting from this goal. I hope you all realize what you're doing. EA is probably laughing their asses off. Good job." If Obsidian believed in old skool RPGs they wouldn't be bowing to pressure to those who loathe old skool RPGs to change their game. RIGHT!?! That's what BIO does. Is Obsidian the NEW BIO? I think so.

So the SJW nazis who hate women, minorities, men, and everything else get their way again. These evil punks are about power, control, and slavery. How long til we see 'outrage' about husband murder, referring to women as 'fire whores', rape, racism, and a whole bunch of other nasty stuff? DOES. NOT. MAKE. SENSE. These people have no morals. They aren't about equality. I AM ABOUT EQUALITY. Why is Obsidian anti equality?

"Honestly, I don't understand at all how we can have a game with stillborns being a central subject, with a town full of corpses hanging from a tree, how you murder people left right and center. What about the sanitarium? Isn't that "triggering" to someone?" Don't forget spousal abuse, rape, racism, calling women 'fire whores' and a whole other nasty/non PC stuff. IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE.

"Even if they asked said backer and said backer said it was okay to change it?" You think he really had a choice? What do you think Obsidian does if he tells them he doens't want it changed? L0L He had no choice. NONE. ZERO. NADDA. ZILCH.

"Proof? You're assuming the side you want to believe. Their claim is to the contrary." The proof is that Obsidian put it in the game. It's only been removed because they were bullied, intimidated, and shamed into it. This is UNDISPUTABLE. "Seriously? This is how you want to be seen by others on the internet? I don't care if you disagree with her, that's fine. i find the whole thing bumpkis. But to call her an "it" and a "disgusting creature"?" Truth hurts but it's the truth. Nazis need to be called out.

HAHAHAHA! They called the backer a 'crybaby'. HAHAHAHAHA!

"But here's the thing: if the creators of the game decide that something is in poor taste and want to remove it from their work, that isn't censorship. It's only censorship if they felt forced to do something they wouldn't otherwise have done." They were bullied into it. It wouldn't be in the game if it bothered them. PERIOD. But, the evil nazis made them do it. Of course, the peoms where the wive murders the husband because she caught him cheating is a-ok. LMAO

Evil nazis are evil nazis. "Would the people who are supporting it and saying it shouldn't have been changed have the same attitude if it was a racist joke?" Yes, I don't care. This is a game that allows you to slap a servant woman for ****s and giggles. This is a game where women and, men, and children are hung from a damn tree. This is a game where a 'good' character refers to women as ';fire whores'. This is a game where chidlrena re murdered in cold. This is a game where a husband abuses and murders his wife. This is a game where torture is done for fun and for 'research'. This is a game where racism happens quite a bit. And, some silly limerick needs to be erased? COME ON. But, it's not surprising. Obsidian, BIO, and all these other companies are like JSWs. They hate their own customers. They hate themselves. It's disgusting, shameful, and cowardly. How cna a guy who, again, allows the player to abuse a woman physically somehow get all offended and defended about a lemerick about some loser who kills hismelf because he is pathetic? Sad.

"You're right. Tackled implies that despite only being used as an anti-feminist platform the issues themselves are still being addressed. Perhaps replacing the word "tackled" with "acknowledged" would work better. Insightful as always Volourn." The thread is called PATRIARCHY sarcastically for a reason. It's to show that this nonsense that there' some male conspiracy to destroy/conjugate women is oure nonsense. Highlighting real issues that men actually deal with illustrates that the idea that a 'Patriarchy' exists is pure bull****. take your feels about male suicide and go cry in your spilled male tears.

"Sad how male issues are only tackled through the lens of "HAHA TAKE THAT FEMINISTS" rather than any actual care for the issue itself." Yeah, because the issue of male suicide is gonna be solved by Obsidian posters. L0L

It's rare but does happen.

King of the SJW Journalists Kuchera: http://pastebin.com/SRhC5stD Various nasty comments by him. L0L Feminism = peace & love

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/male-suicide-scandal-uk-men-paying-system-drives-143116878.html#O3DzKUa But, yeah, women have it so much tougher. <> http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/us-idaho-lawsuit-reveals-sexual-assault-by-staff-male-teens-juvenile-detention-centers-1494582 Notice how the word rape isn't used even once.

"To be fair. D&D wizards do represent many, many, things wrong with class design." D&D wizards represent the awesomesauce of class design. They are perfect the way they are.

"You've won me over with your convincing argument." YAY! I won an argument on the internet convincingly. We all know what that still makes me right? :D