Deadfire: Would you like to know more?

[kmbogd]

Agree that it makes no sense to dual wield daggers when enabling the modal. However, I think it's more like a design flaw than a bug or miss-implementation of the system rules that they conceived. Since it's harder to modify the game's system rules (in this case stacking rules), maybe it would be better to modify the modal so that it makes sense with the current format (even when dual wielding).

Edited April 21, 2018 by kmbogd

[Boeroer]

I agree.

[Madscientist]

 

Deep Wounds - what's the base duration, and does it stack with itself?

Base duration is 9 seconds, and it stacks with itself. You only see the duration of the longest bleed effect remaining, but they all run for their full duration. I.E. if you attack once per 3 seconds, you'll always have three bleed effects up on the target.

 

**Updated 'cause I was wrong.

 

 

- If you attack with a blunderbuss, does each bullit cause deep wounds? ( same question for combusting wounds )

 

- If you see only the one with the longest duration, how do you know that there are several of them at the same time?

[Boeroer]

Yes - like in PoE each pellet of a blunderbuss will trigger CW.

 

Same with Confounding Blind and The Shield Cracked (upgrade of chanter's Hel Hyraf) by the way: each pellet triggers. Also removes Mirrored Image or Iron Skin and stops The Dance Continues (upgraded Dance of Death).

 

- for example the red numbers that pop out of enemies' heads.

[Madscientist]

Thanks

 

I want to play an assassin/wizard at some point. Dual wielding blunderbuss seems to be the best choice.

Start with an empowered fireball from stealth, cast combusting wounds, use a full attack with your guns and see the enemy bleeding and burning.

[Boeroer]

You know what? I didn't test what happens when you use the DoT upgrade of Blinding Strike with a blunderbuss (because I always used Confounding Blind). Will the enemy suffer 5 or even 10 parallel DoTs? They don't depend on weapon damage...

Edited April 22, 2018 by Boeroer

[z_liquid]

Good thread.

 

My question: If you lower a target's constitution, what happens to its current health? If a target has 75/100 health and loses 5 con from sickened, is its health now 75/75? 50/75? 57/75 (percentage stays same)?

 

Also, on the topic of status effects, are they in general weaker now? In Pillars 1, stunned was -30 deflection, blinded was -20 deflection and -25 accuracy, and weakened was -20 will, -20 fortitude. Now, weakened only drops constitution by 5 and has a healing debuff, for instance.

Edited April 22, 2018 by z_liquid

[TheMetaphysician]

Here's a question: if a character has an inspiration AND a resistance to afflictions on the same stat, what happens when a first-level affliction on that stat is cast? Is the inspiration still removed, or does the affliction resistance protect the inspiration? For example, if a character has both Steadfast and a resistance to Resolve afflictions, would landing a Shaken on the character remove the Steadfast buff or not?

Edited April 23, 2018 by TheMetaphysician

[Cheston]

Good thread.

 

My question: If you lower a target's constitution, what happens to its current health? If a target has 75/100 health and loses 5 con from sickened, is its health now 75/75? 50/75? 57/75 (percentage stays same)?

 

Also, on the topic of status effects, are they in general weaker now? In Pillars 1, stunned was -30 deflection, blinded was -20 deflection and -25 accuracy, and weakened was -20 will, -20 fortitude. Now, weakened only drops constitution by 5 and has a healing debuff, for instance.

 

1) It would be 57/75 (the percentage would remain the same). So debuffing enemy Constitution is effectively buffing party damage. Here are some numbers from when I played Barbarian:

  Before activating Frenzy:

    124/192 (~65%)

  After activating Frenzy:

    152/235 (~65%)

  Before Frenzy expired:

    219/235 (~93%)

  After Frenzy expired:

    178/192 (~93%)

 

2) There are still regular ol' debuffs that you can apply in addition to capital-a Afflictions, they vary in power similarly to in Pillars 1, and they do stack with Afflictions' effects. They can't remove Inspirations, though.

 

As an example, you could apply Frightened, Blinded, and Confused to an enemy, and cast Arkemyr's Wondrous Torment (-10 res/int/per), and you'd be debuffing that enemy for a total of -15 res/int/per. But if you then cast Psychovampiric Shield (-10 res) on that enemy, it wouldn't stack with AWT.

Edited April 23, 2018 by Cheston

[Tattyblue]

On the Corpse Eater Barbarian subclass, in pillars most of the enemies either died or exploded. How often in deadfire could a barbarian actually eat someone?

[Madscientist]

On the Corpse Eater Barbarian subclass, in pillars most of the enemies either died or exploded. How often in deadfire could a barbarian actually eat someone?

 

In PoE1 you could deactivate gib in the menu. This means that enemies are not destroyed when defeted. At some point Boeroer said he did this when he used the chanter spell that lets corpses explode ( white worms, I guess ).

 

I think the option to deactivate gib is in PoE2 too, but I am not 100% sure right now.

[malchiorita]

Does cipher "psychic backlash" can still trigger just once per combat? From the wiki it seems they removed the limit, did they?

[Boeroer]

In PoE it now triggers unlimited times per encounter (although description says otherwise). In Deadfire beta only once per encounter.  

[malchiorita]

Meh, that doesnt seem very useful then, thanks for the answer!

[Boeroer]

In PoE1 you could deactivate gib in the menu. This means that enemies are not destroyed when defeted. At some point Boeroer said he did this when he used the chanter spell that lets corpses explode ( white worms, I guess ).

Right. You can also reuse the "non-exploded" corpses over and over again in PoE with White Worms. Don't know if that's also the case with Flesh Communion or White Worms in Deadfire.

 

I turn off gib anyways because I think it's silly that enemies explode from weapons attacks...

 

You can turn gib off in Deadfire, too. I didn't test if Flesh Communion works on exploded bodies... will do... wait a sec...

 

Edit: So I can confirm that you can't eat exploded (death on crit) enemies. Once you turn off gib it works fine and you can have your meal.

 

And yes: you can eat the same enemy multiple times with Flesh Communion.

 

You can also eat yourself, heal up and then die... nice bug!

Edited April 24, 2018 by Boeroer

[dunehunter]

 

In PoE1 you could deactivate gib in the menu. This means that enemies are not destroyed when defeted. At some point Boeroer said he did this when he used the chanter spell that lets corpses explode ( white worms, I guess ).

Right. You can also reuse the "non-exploded" corpses over and over again in PoE with White Worms. Don't know if that's also the case with Flesh Communion or White Worms in Deadfire.

 

I turn off gib anyways because I think it's silly that enemies explode from weapons attacks...

 

You can turn gib off in Deadfire, too. I didn't test if Flesh Communion works on exploded bodies... will do... wait a sec...

 

Edit: So I can confirm that you can't eat exploded (death on crit) enemies. Once you turn off gib it works fine and you can have your meal.

 

And yes: you can eat the same enemy multiple times with Flesh Communion.

 

You can also eat yourself, heal up and then die... nice bug!

 

 

Lol what do u mean eat yourself.

[Cheston]

 

Lol what do u mean eat yourself.

 

 

https://twitter.com/jesawyer/status/983407829477244928

[Madscientist]

Breaking News:

Finally barbariens have found a way to trigger vengeful defeat at will: They eat themselves!

Finally we have suicide bombers eaters in Eora

[malchiorita]

Do we have a list of weapon modals any where? Oh btw does activating/deactivating them takes time or it's istant?

[TheMetaphysician]

Here's a question that was asked on another thread, and no one answered: can you use the console to add subclasses to characters without them? (obviously, that's relevant for the in-game companions, but should be testable on a hired merc.) Anybody tried it, or willing to try it?

[Vaeliorin]

Are some ability upgrades mutually exclusive?  For example, can I take Lightning Strikes and Swift Flurry and get the benefit of both at the same time?  Some things I've seen lead me to believe that you can't, which would be disappointing.

[TheMetaphysician]

Yes, those are mutually exclusive.

[Boeroer]

Do we have a list of weapon modals any where? Oh btw does activating/deactivating them takes time or it's istant?

They change instantly, but there is a cooldown.

[malchiorita]

A cooldown limited to the modals or a generic one? I.e. If i turn a modal on/off do i have a "recovery time" before taking any other action or just to switch on/off another weapon modal? Thanks again!

[Boeroer]

No no, just a cooldown for the modal - so you can't switch it on/off/on all the time. No recovery or so for other actions.