Well, in AAA world it is absolute non-sense, but when I was talking about it in other thread, I meant HBS, which are selfpublishing SR games, so they get all my money minus GOG cut from my purchase.

The publisher will be the one to get the revenue not the devs.

And publisher then pays (or doesn't) developers to create more games for them based on their financial success (unless we're talking older games) so...

 

The publisher will be the one to get the revenue not the devs.

And publisher then pays (or doesn't) developers to create more games for them based on their financial success (unless we're talking older games) so...

 

And then we get Shadow of Mordor and SW:Battlefront 2. I'd rather support devs that are consistent in their delivery despite publishers, or kickstart games. AAA is dead to me.

Why do I keep reading 'Steam or gag!!!'?

Maybe your subconciousness is picturing you your secret wishes *wink wink*

But... Steam has an amazing refund policy.

 

2 weeks to refund if the game or item has been sitting there.

 

2 hours to play before you cannot refund. You can refund the game or dlc if it hasn't been played or used for over 2 hours. No questions asked.

 

However, they do allow you to write a message and start a convo with the developer if you so choose.

Why do I keep reading 'Steam or gag!!!'?

Many players mix both at different nights. 

That really gives memorable entertaiment.

All my favorite games from the past five years or so - i.e., the rebooted XCOM series, the rebooted Tomb Raider series, (I hated the old XCOM and Tomb Raider games but love the reboots,) the Batman Arkham series, etc. - are exclusively on Steam and unavailable on GOG.  So Steam has my preference by default. 

 

Ultimately, what matters are the availability of apps and games, not a platform. 

 

Furthermore, many of my other favorite games had been available on Steam for years before GOG finally got them; (for example: TellTales' The Walking Dead series.)  When GOG finally started selling those games, I had already played and finished them on Steam.  I used to re-buy those games on GOG when they were heavily discounted, (like at 75-percent or more.) Then, I gradually realized rebuying games on a different platform is a waste of money: after I finished a game on Steam, I have never replayed it on GOG or anywhere else.  I simply do not have the time to replay a game.  I own hundreds of games, on Steam and GOG, that I have never gotten the time play.  I really cannot go back to any games that I already played and finished.  Any time I spend on re-playing a game would be better used on playing a game that I have not played.

 

So those are the two reasons why I have been spending most of my gaming money and time on Steam and not GOG.  If a game I wanted but not yet owned was available on both Steam or GOG, I would buy it from the platform that sold it at less.   DRM really does not bother me as long as it is not overly intrusive and does not require always-on Internet connection, (like Diablo III, which I have refused to buy and play even though Diablo 2 was one of my top favorite games of all time.  Nowadays, I have bought so many great games that I want to play but have not had the time to do so.  I do not have to deal with any company that offends me with their business practices, which is why I have completely written off EA-BioWare and Blizzard.)

Edited December 10, 20178 yr by ktchong

Awww dude, prepare to get fly-swatted. I'm sure someone here may come along and say it's about the platform and the drm vs drm-free and not about Steam's crapalogue. Maybe to people on this forum anyways.

 

I think you have a point though, the vast majority of pc gamers (whether older or younger) are more interested in newer games than older ones. Steam has an insane amount of reason for that users.

 

If I were to recommend one or the other to a friend, I'd ask if they liked classics more or if they like newer games more. GoG = Classics, Steam = Modern. I wouldn't even mention drm or the community stuff to a person who is new to oc gaming, unless I knew they were big on ommunity and trophies on their consoles. Perhaps GoG is easier to use and Steam is more stable.

GOG forums are toxic at times.

I can't imagine they're worse than the Steam hub forums. You would think the developers/publishers would have interest in moderating what's basically their forums, but I guess the endless flow of garbage is just too much for them to reasonably handle across many games.

Origin access is actually pretty tempting now because of Titanfall and one or two others. 

 

I know, heresy. 

Ive never replayed a single player game either. I click through all the conversations, feel like Ive "experienced" most classes by directly controlling and leveling them, and beat the ending. Theres nothing left for me. Now, aRPG's or MMO's Ill play for a cumulative thousand hours. I guess its dynamic enough to keep me interested. 

Steam is better for now.

 

GOG forums are toxic at times.

I can't imagine they're worse than the Steam hub forums. You would think the developers/publishers would have interest in moderating what's basically their forums, but I guess the endless flow of garbage is just too much for them to reasonably handle across many games.

 

 

The answer in life, generally, is when you realise you're reading stupid stuff, stop & move on. It's hard, god knows I've not heeded my own advice in this very forum...

 

Given that GOG is a kind of specialised marketplace, the real issue is that I'd like to see a more diversified mainstream marketplace, not one where Steam = 90% of the market. No matter how great or terrible Steam is, it's not good for the consumer in the long run to have a single company and platform dictate the rules of the market. Sadly, this seems more unlikely by the day.

I use both but I don't really buy games on Steam. The social aspect of the platform and the fact that they have a working Linux client (although the Gog Galaxy client does look *gorgeous* from what I've seen, looking forward to a Linux release) is great, and it does mean that I generally have Steam open more than Gog. I'm not really entirely on board with Valve's business model though, so the games that I do have on Steam are almost entirely from Humble Bundle or Kickstarter. The one game I remember buying on Steam itself is Ark back when it was in early access, since I had a few friends that I played on a server with. I really like that Gog has so many great older games (funny that), and it's nice that both companies have followed the Humble Bundle folk in starting to adapt games to the Linux platform. I think I currently have more games on Steam than Gog, but the difference is closing.

All my favorite games from the past five years or so - i.e., the rebooted XCOM series, the rebooted Tomb Raider series, (I hated the old XCOM and Tomb Raider games but love the reboots,) the Batman Arkham series, etc. - are exclusively on Steam and unavailable on GOG.  So Steam has my preference by default... 

 

Correction: All my favorite PC games from the past five years ago.

 

My favorite game from 2017 was Horizon: Zero Dawn, which is a Playstation 4 exclusive.  I bought a Playstation 4 in April/May.  This is the first time I own a Playstation.  Horizon was the exclusive that sold me the console.

 

I had wanted to play the Uncharted series and The Last of Us.  Those Playstation exclusives were tempting but not quite enough to make me commit to investing in a new gaming platform.   Horizon: Zero Dawn plus all those titles finally sealed the deal for me.  After buying a PS4 for Horizon: Zero Dawn, I used to opportunity to finally play all those titles.  They are great games, but I liked Horzon the best.

 

 

Before Horizon, Sony had never been able to convince me to buy a Playstation.  In the past, Playstation was missing a strong exclusive franchise in a very important genre to me: Western RPG.  Playstation has had plenty of JRPG, but JRPG and WRPG are not the same.  I have always hated JRPG, but I am addicted to WRPG.  So, Sony could not convince me to buy a Playstation without a strong exclusive WRPG series.   IMO, Horizon was the right move for Sony: it has helped Sony capture the one particular segment of niche gamers that previously had no reason to buy or own a Playstatiion.

 

It is the same reason why Microsoft is unable to convince me to buy an Xbox One... or any Xbox console in the near future.  The Xbox console series currently do not have an exclusive WRPG franchise, and it does not have any upcoming exclusive WRPG, (not one as good as Horizon anyway.)  In fact, Xbox seems to be very lacking in exclusives... not just in WRPG but overall.

Edited December 31, 20178 yr by ktchong

I like buying through Humble, and that gives steam keys.

I prefer Steam

I hope GoG gets Crossing Souls and Iconoclast

I hope GoG gets Crossing Souls and Iconoclast

 

It will surely get Iconoclast. Check its main page.

I use both. There are games unavailable on Steam, such as Heroes of Might and Magic III

 

GOG!  

Edited January 24, 20188 yr by Katphood

For sure steam is better. Now they run the seasonal sale. Few games like ESO are available not only on steam but also on https://mmoauctions.com where you can equip your character, for example, buy ESO gold because of tons of offers. 

Edited July 20, 20187 yr by mczas

Gog without a doubt. If I pay money for something, I own that copy, not dependant on the goodwill of valve and The Fat Bastard.

Not planning on getting anything else on STEAM since they refused me a refund.