Labadal Posted November 2, 2017 Posted November 2, 2017 I don't pirate games, I don't hate Denuvo, I just skip games that use it. If developers want to use it, all the power to them. 3
Bartimaeus Posted November 2, 2017 Posted November 2, 2017 I'm not a big release day person (i.e. it's extremely rare that I have to play a game on release), so Denuvo doesn't really bother me if it's eventually removed: by the time I get around to a game, even if it might pose a problem, it'll no doubt be removed by then. And for as long as it's not removed, it's unlikely I would purchase it, so that rather takes care of itself. For people that pay full price to experience a game on release day or near then, I can imagine how improperly implemented DRM schemes could be quite annoying. I have a problem with it but I've also had several bad experiences with my legally purchased games randomly quitting on me because it thought it detected some tampering. Andromeda was the latest of these. Isn't that the one that didn't let you run Cheat Engine? On a singleplayer game? Into the garbage can it goes, and never will it return. Quote How I have existed fills me with horror. For I have failed in everything - spelling, arithmetic, riding, tennis, golf; dancing, singing, acting; wife, mistress, whore, friend. Even cooking. And I do not excuse myself with the usual escape of 'not trying'. I tried with all my heart. In my dreams, I am not crippled. In my dreams, I dance.
ShadySands Posted November 2, 2017 Posted November 2, 2017 I had that issue without CheatEngine so I never even tried using it 1 Free games updated 3/4/21
213374U Posted November 2, 2017 Posted November 2, 2017 I'm not a big release day person (i.e. it's extremely rare that I have to play a game on release), so Denuvo doesn't really bother me if it's eventually removed: by the time I get around to a game, even if it might pose a problem, it'll no doubt be removed by then. And for as long as it's not removed, it's unlikely I would purchase it, so that rather takes care of itself. For people that pay full price to experience a game on release day or near then, I can imagine how improperly implemented DRM schemes could be quite annoying. Except for online games, what I usually do is purchase the game, and then download and play the superior pirated version. Sadly, with Denuvo that is pointless because "the scene" has found it's easier to defeat Denuvo by sidestepping it rather than removing it outright. Which means I'm out of luck, and the publisher is out of a sale. Win-win, right? Wait... I had that issue without CheatEngine so I never even tried using it Heh. There was rampant online cheating enabled by CE scripts that were extremely easy to obtain. And then legit users get shot down for non-existent "tampering". You dirty pirate, you. 2 - When he is best, he is a little worse than a man, and when he is worst, he is little better than a beast.
Mamoulian War Posted November 2, 2017 Posted November 2, 2017 (edited) And naturally every performance problem you have on your GT1030 running Assassin's Creed is the fault of Denuvo. No further evidence needed!! Anyone who says that additional layer of code on top of the base package of software does not have any performance impact is either liar or Fortran god. And I highly doubt that in this case, the latter statement is the more probable one... Edited November 2, 2017 by Mamoulian War Sent from my Stone Tablet, using Chisel-a-Talk 2000BC. My youtube channel: MamoulianFH Latest Let's Play Tales of Arise (completed) Latest Bossfight Compilation Dark Souls Remastered - New Game (completed) Let's Play/AAR Europa Universalis 1: Austria Grand Campaign (completed) Let's Play/AAR Europa Universalis 2: Xhosa Grand Campaign (completed) My PS Platinums and 100% - 29 games so far (my PSN profile) 1) God of War III - PS3 - 24+ hours 2) Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 130+ hours 3) White Knight Chronicles International Edition - PS3 - 525+ hours 4) Hyperdimension Neptunia - PS3 - 80+ hours 5) Final Fantasy XIII-2 - PS3 - 200+ hours 6) Tales of Xillia - PS3 - 135+ hours 7) Hyperdimension Neptunia mk2 - PS3 - 152+ hours 8.) Grand Turismo 6 - PS3 - 81+ hours (including Senna Master DLC) 9) Demon's Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours 10) Tales of Graces f - PS3 - 337+ hours 11) Star Ocean: The Last Hope International - PS3 - 750+ hours 12) Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 127+ hours 13) Soulcalibur V - PS3 - 73+ hours 14) Gran Turismo 5 - PS3 - 600+ hours 15) Tales of Xillia 2 - PS3 - 302+ hours 16) Mortal Kombat XL - PS4 - 95+ hours 17) Project CARS Game of the Year Edition - PS4 - 120+ hours 18) Dark Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours 19) Hyperdimension Neptunia Victory - PS3 - 238+ hours 20) Final Fantasy Type-0 - PS4 - 58+ hours 21) Journey - PS4 - 9+ hours 22) Dark Souls II - PS3 - 210+ hours 23) Fairy Fencer F - PS3 - 215+ hours 24) Megadimension Neptunia VII - PS4 - 160 hours 25) Super Neptunia RPG - PS4 - 44+ hours 26) Journey - PS3 - 22+ hours 27) Final Fantasy XV - PS4 - 263+ hours (including all DLCs) 28) Tales of Arise - PS4 - 111+ hours 29) Dark Souls: Remastered - PS4 - 121+ hours
Zoraptor Posted November 2, 2017 Posted November 2, 2017 It's nothing to do with the graphics card anyway, ACO is putting high load even on to 16 thread R7s* and is murdering Kabylake or less i5s like Chinggiz Han with the mother of all hangovers. Up until this year i5s were considered absolutely fine for gaming, there's no way that Ubi is deliberately excluding them and they'd never aim for game release targeting only i7/r7 owners as that's a small proportion of gamers. It's also dreadfully unbalanced, because the CPU load is in some cases so heavy that changing graphics presets has very little effect on actual performance- because it's the CPU bottlenecking, not the video card; which also makes the 1030 reference spurious. It's almost certainly due to the DRM implementation as that would be one of if not the last thing added, so they'd only become aware of the problem at or near release and have a choice between fixing it via no DRM or releasing with poor performance- no doubt as to which Ubi would pick there, even without the evidence. *It's currently one of the oddest releases ever, since it's giving ~70% load on 16 thread r7s and near 100% on anything below that, but also won't work on some threadripper/ i9s as they have too many threads. Ironic. Finally a game that uses lots of threads heavily, but then it won't work if there are too many. 1
pmp10 Posted November 3, 2017 Posted November 3, 2017 And naturally every performance problem you have on your GT1030 running Assassin's Creed is the fault of Denuvo. No further evidence needed!! Anyone who says that additional layer of code on top of the base package of software does not have any performance impact is either liar or Fortran god. And I highly doubt that in this case, the latter statement is the more probable one... Fair enough but Denuovo was removed from multiple games by now. The performance impact was nowhere as dramatic as you make it out to be.
Mamoulian War Posted November 3, 2017 Posted November 3, 2017 It really depends on the PC. If a steramer or reviewer says, that the performace boost is negligible, it´s because they are using top notch stuff. Unfortunatelly very few gamers are able to have 12k EUR computer as pewdiepie. So the loss of performance for them is much more notable... Sent from my Stone Tablet, using Chisel-a-Talk 2000BC. My youtube channel: MamoulianFH Latest Let's Play Tales of Arise (completed) Latest Bossfight Compilation Dark Souls Remastered - New Game (completed) Let's Play/AAR Europa Universalis 1: Austria Grand Campaign (completed) Let's Play/AAR Europa Universalis 2: Xhosa Grand Campaign (completed) My PS Platinums and 100% - 29 games so far (my PSN profile) 1) God of War III - PS3 - 24+ hours 2) Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 130+ hours 3) White Knight Chronicles International Edition - PS3 - 525+ hours 4) Hyperdimension Neptunia - PS3 - 80+ hours 5) Final Fantasy XIII-2 - PS3 - 200+ hours 6) Tales of Xillia - PS3 - 135+ hours 7) Hyperdimension Neptunia mk2 - PS3 - 152+ hours 8.) Grand Turismo 6 - PS3 - 81+ hours (including Senna Master DLC) 9) Demon's Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours 10) Tales of Graces f - PS3 - 337+ hours 11) Star Ocean: The Last Hope International - PS3 - 750+ hours 12) Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 127+ hours 13) Soulcalibur V - PS3 - 73+ hours 14) Gran Turismo 5 - PS3 - 600+ hours 15) Tales of Xillia 2 - PS3 - 302+ hours 16) Mortal Kombat XL - PS4 - 95+ hours 17) Project CARS Game of the Year Edition - PS4 - 120+ hours 18) Dark Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours 19) Hyperdimension Neptunia Victory - PS3 - 238+ hours 20) Final Fantasy Type-0 - PS4 - 58+ hours 21) Journey - PS4 - 9+ hours 22) Dark Souls II - PS3 - 210+ hours 23) Fairy Fencer F - PS3 - 215+ hours 24) Megadimension Neptunia VII - PS4 - 160 hours 25) Super Neptunia RPG - PS4 - 44+ hours 26) Journey - PS3 - 22+ hours 27) Final Fantasy XV - PS4 - 263+ hours (including all DLCs) 28) Tales of Arise - PS4 - 111+ hours 29) Dark Souls: Remastered - PS4 - 121+ hours
Mamoulian War Posted November 3, 2017 Posted November 3, 2017 In other news, review of xXx-Bone-xXx https://arstechnica.co.uk/gaming/2017/11/xbox-one-x-review-an-exclamation-point-for-hardware-a-question-mark-for-software/ Sent from my Stone Tablet, using Chisel-a-Talk 2000BC. My youtube channel: MamoulianFH Latest Let's Play Tales of Arise (completed) Latest Bossfight Compilation Dark Souls Remastered - New Game (completed) Let's Play/AAR Europa Universalis 1: Austria Grand Campaign (completed) Let's Play/AAR Europa Universalis 2: Xhosa Grand Campaign (completed) My PS Platinums and 100% - 29 games so far (my PSN profile) 1) God of War III - PS3 - 24+ hours 2) Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 130+ hours 3) White Knight Chronicles International Edition - PS3 - 525+ hours 4) Hyperdimension Neptunia - PS3 - 80+ hours 5) Final Fantasy XIII-2 - PS3 - 200+ hours 6) Tales of Xillia - PS3 - 135+ hours 7) Hyperdimension Neptunia mk2 - PS3 - 152+ hours 8.) Grand Turismo 6 - PS3 - 81+ hours (including Senna Master DLC) 9) Demon's Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours 10) Tales of Graces f - PS3 - 337+ hours 11) Star Ocean: The Last Hope International - PS3 - 750+ hours 12) Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 127+ hours 13) Soulcalibur V - PS3 - 73+ hours 14) Gran Turismo 5 - PS3 - 600+ hours 15) Tales of Xillia 2 - PS3 - 302+ hours 16) Mortal Kombat XL - PS4 - 95+ hours 17) Project CARS Game of the Year Edition - PS4 - 120+ hours 18) Dark Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours 19) Hyperdimension Neptunia Victory - PS3 - 238+ hours 20) Final Fantasy Type-0 - PS4 - 58+ hours 21) Journey - PS4 - 9+ hours 22) Dark Souls II - PS3 - 210+ hours 23) Fairy Fencer F - PS3 - 215+ hours 24) Megadimension Neptunia VII - PS4 - 160 hours 25) Super Neptunia RPG - PS4 - 44+ hours 26) Journey - PS3 - 22+ hours 27) Final Fantasy XV - PS4 - 263+ hours (including all DLCs) 28) Tales of Arise - PS4 - 111+ hours 29) Dark Souls: Remastered - PS4 - 121+ hours
Gfted1 Posted November 3, 2017 Posted November 3, 2017 Studio Behind Torchlight Shuts Down; Big Layoffs At Studio Behind Gigantic. "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa"
ShadySands Posted November 3, 2017 Posted November 3, 2017 (edited) WoW Classic - official vanilla server and F2P StarCraft 2 Also a new Overwatch hero and this.. Edited November 3, 2017 by ShadySands Free games updated 3/4/21
Malcador Posted November 3, 2017 Posted November 3, 2017 Interesting changes to WoW. Level scaling is in all zones, flexible expansion order so you can skip Outland ? Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
Hurlshort Posted November 3, 2017 Posted November 3, 2017 They need to do something else with the Overwatch world. I like all the characters and the setting but have little interest in the genre.
ShadySands Posted November 3, 2017 Posted November 3, 2017 They need to do something else with the Overwatch world. I like all the characters and the setting but have little interest in the genre. Doesn't appeal to me either but my much younger brother loves it Free games updated 3/4/21
Tale Posted November 3, 2017 Posted November 3, 2017 They need to do something else with the Overwatch world. I like all the characters and the setting but have little interest in the genre. I keep looking at it and thinking "this is so cool!" But then I remember it's just a 6v6 FPS and my interest immediately dies again. If it had 32 player modes, I'd probably be all over it. The only way I can get into Titanfall 2 is all the little NPCs to shoot at. 4 "Show me a man who "plays fair" and I'll show you a very talented cheater."
Malcador Posted November 3, 2017 Posted November 3, 2017 1 Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
injurai Posted November 3, 2017 Posted November 3, 2017 They need to do something else with the Overwatch world. I like all the characters and the setting but have little interest in the genre. I keep looking at it and thinking "this is so cool!" But then I remember it's just a 6v6 FPS and my interest immediately dies again. If it had 32 player modes, I'd probably be all over it. The only way I can get into Titanfall 2 is all the little NPCs to shoot at. Or 12v12 like TF2, it would be perfect. I bought it and played a ton of it near launch, but it quickly fell off after the first 4 months. 1
Malcador Posted November 3, 2017 Posted November 3, 2017 Why do you guys think it'd be better with bigger teams ? What they need to do is disable all forms of communication in game. Bunch of ****ing subhumans play it. 3 Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
majestic Posted November 3, 2017 Posted November 3, 2017 WoW Classic - official vanilla server and F2P StarCraft 2 Also a new Overwatch hero and this.. Putting the "War" back in Warcraft... again? Much original, such wow, something something or however that meme goes. I'd be more excited for the expansion if Blizz had not made a habit out of quietly dropping half of the features announced for a new expansion. But yay, they now can morph terrain in real time now. That'll be all over the expansion, like rushing rivers were all over the Broken Isles in Legion. I think I'll sit this one out like I did with WoD and everything on Pandaria after the launch. No mind to think. No will to break. No voice to cry suffering.
injurai Posted November 4, 2017 Posted November 4, 2017 Why do you guys think it'd be better with bigger teams ? What they need to do is disable all forms of communication in game. Bunch of ****ing subhumans play it. Or allow private servers. Or a genius innovation would be to sell your own servers to for private administration. That way select servers can cultivate a certain expectation of play. Good CS:S/TF2 servers back in the day were dreams to play on. Basically non-existent these days.
Katphood Posted November 4, 2017 Posted November 4, 2017 Call of Duty: WW2 has a mission to watch people open loot boxes (Eurogamer.net) A mission that tasks you to watch someone open loot boxes? "Howdy! We have the new COD game delivered right to your door for juniors birthday! What's that? He doesn't know how to gamble?! We have a mission that specifically teaches junior everything about that, all he needs to do is watch!" Glad I decided not to reproduce... There used to be a signature here, a really cool one...and now it's gone.
Katphood Posted November 4, 2017 Posted November 4, 2017 I know, I know. This is just a COD bash party. Jump in, dude! It only takes place once a year. 3 There used to be a signature here, a really cool one...and now it's gone.
Hurlshort Posted November 4, 2017 Posted November 4, 2017 Honestly though MMO's have been doing this stuff for ages. I've seen a few quests that revolve around taking part in some weird social interaction over the years.
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