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I think the only reason I read this thread anymore is to follow this snappy repartee between Hurlshot and WoD. :lol: 

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I think the only reason I read this thread anymore is to follow this snappy repartee between Hurlshot and WoD. :lol:

You always seem to state the undeniable truth  :biggrin:

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"While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before"

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I say we put all left extremists, all violent Nazis and all violent religious fundamentalists just together on one field in the middle of no where and let them do their thing :p

 

 

You'll have to be quite violent to make them comply with that.

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I say we put all left extremists, all violent Nazis and all violent religious fundamentalists just together on one field in the middle of no where and let them do their thing :p

 

I'd buy a ticket to watch.

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I say we put all left extremists, all violent Nazis and all violent religious fundamentalists just together on one field in the middle of no where and let them do their thing :p

I'd buy a ticket to watch.

My money be on nazis and fundamentalists teaming up against the leftist then between them 2.....I dunno. If it's southern fundamentalists, I'd dare say they come out for the win if anyone was left.

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I don´t know, but wouldn't a significant percentage of that be a bunch of people punching themselves in the face?

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I say we put all left extremists, all violent Nazis and all violent religious fundamentalists just together on one field in the middle of no where and let them do their thing :p

Or we could do the smart thing and line them up and cut their throats in sequence.

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I say we put all left extremists, all violent Nazis and all violent religious fundamentalists just together on one field in the middle of no where and let them do their thing :p
Or we could do the smart thing and line them up and cut their throats in sequence.

Sounds like someone converted to Islam...

Sounds like soemone needs to look up gang activity in some places.

 

Funny enough back home, decapitation was the big thing. Not even sure why in most cases (you'll get hilariously racist answers there) but people have to act like animals I guess.

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I say we put all left extremists, all violent Nazis and all violent religious fundamentalists just together on one field in the middle of no where and let them do their thing :p
Or we could do the smart thing and line them up and cut their throats in sequence.

Sounds like someone converted to Islam...

Sounds like soemone needs to look up gang activity in some places.

 

Funny enough back home, decapitation was the big thing. Not even sure why in most cases (you'll get hilariously racist answers there) but people have to act like animals I guess.

 

 

Are you Mayan or something?

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Nope Trinidad. Machete killings have been a thing even before I emigrated. Situation is worse now, saw a report that ISIS recruits a fair amount there these days.

 

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2016/12/isis-trinidad/509930/

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Leftist guerillas will firebomb a nazi building and liberals will become nazis to prove they are the "tolerant left".

 

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I wouldn't say it if I didn't. I was just pointing out that the situation isn't as unreasonable as it was portrayed in the ad. If you mean about the schools, then yes, many schools are nasty and dangerous. I understand it's more complex than just "it's all the schools' fault".

 

So the military is 'unready' and you want to throw another 54 billion dollars at it, but our schools are 'nasty and dangerous' and so you want to take money away from them. Okey dokey.

 

Can I get a voucher for sending money to a private security company? These guys get the job done:

 

There are private schools, but no private military yet. Many people though hire private security when the police aren't doing enough. Private military might not be a bad idea, there was a story in some African country about 100 mercenaries doing more good than 15000 UN "peace keepers".

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I wouldn't say it if I didn't. I was just pointing out that the situation isn't as unreasonable as it was portrayed in the ad. If you mean about the schools, then yes, many schools are nasty and dangerous. I understand it's more complex than just "it's all the schools' fault".

 

So the military is 'unready' and you want to throw another 54 billion dollars at it, but our schools are 'nasty and dangerous' and so you want to take money away from them. Okey dokey.

 

Can I get a voucher for sending money to a private security company? These guys get the job done:

 

There are private schools, but no private military yet. Many people though hire private security when the police aren't doing enough. Private military might not be a bad idea, there was a story in some African country about 100 mercenaries doing more good than 15000 UN "peace keepers".

 

You lost me on this one WoD. You should do a little reading about Odoacer and his foederati infantry of the 6th Century before wishing for something like that. The security and defense of the nation and the integrity of the borders  is the first duty of any government. Contractors and mercenaries have their uses but they should never be relied on as the first line of defense.

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"While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before"

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Privatized military, much like private education, would seem to favor those who can pay for it.

 

The courts are an interesting one; should there be tax exempt vouchers for people that want to hire better lawyers? Public defenders don't have a great reputation.

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 Public defenders don't have a great reputation.

too much tv.  public defenders do have heavy caseloads, but the average public defender is likely more competent and more experienced than anybody an ordinary middle-class citizen is gonna be able to afford to represent 'em.  is relative stiff competition to get hired by PD offices straight outta law school. why? work for a few years in the PD office and the big firms is falling all over themselves trying to hire you. also, more than a few folks working in the PD office is true believers.  many/most folks we know who has spent any significant time in the PD office is true zealots o' the court system, and you want a zealot fighting for you if you is facing serious criminal charges.  is the rich and indigent who get quality legal representation in the US.   the middle-class is the folks who is screwed. 

 

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 Public defenders don't have a great reputation.

too much tv.  public defenders do have heavy caseloads, but the average public defender is likely more competent and more experienced than anybody an ordinary middle-class citizen is gonna be able to afford to represent 'em.  is relative stiff competition to get hired by PD offices straight outta law school. why? work for a few years in the PD office and the big firms is falling all over themselves trying to hire you. also, more than a few folks working in the PD office is true believers.  many/most folks we know who has spent any significant time in the PD office is true zealots o' the court system, and you want a zealot fighting for you if you is facing serious criminal charges.  is the rich and indigent who get quality legal representation in the US.   the middle-class is the folks who is screwed. 

 

HA! Good Fun!

 

 

I probably should have added that, much like public school teachers, I don't really buy into the reputation that either tends to be given. :p 

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Tell that to the Swiss.

 

'Tell that to the Vatican'. The Swiss themselves have conscription and are the very poster child of 'armed neutrality', they have no need for mercenaries nor a private army. Swiss mercenaries specifically (and legally) only exist now as the Swiss Guard at the Vatican, and they are both irrelevant and anachronistic since the Vatican is a statelet which relies entirely on Italy's good will and has for ~150 years. They're more a religious order of security guards (since they have to be catholic) than a practical military- The Swiss Guard could not resist Italy when The Papal State held a decent chunk of central Italy and had a proper standing army as well, let alone now.

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