US Election 2016

[Calax]

And Cruz is out after losing Indiana.

[PK htiw klaw eriF]

 

 

Now all Sanders has to do is get like 80% of California....

All we need is a major gaffe for Hillary and he can do it.

 

Would that be a bigger upset than Leicester winning the EPL? I don't know but it would make me laugh.

 

It would be like David and Goliath, if David was a very old man and Goliath was a political chameleon who has been running for President for over a decade.

[Keyrock]

And Cruz is out after losing Indiana.

It was only a matter of time.  Surely the Republicans were going to try to screw over Trump at the convention if he didn't secure the outright bid before then, but Trump is just way too popular and the whole Cruz/Kasich alliance backfired spectacularly.  Not to mention that Cruz is nearly as hated in Washington as Trump is.

[Guard Dog]

 

 

 

Now all Sanders has to do is get like 80% of California....

All we need is a major gaffe for Hillary and he can do it.

 

Would that be a bigger upset than Leicester winning the EPL? I don't know but it would make me laugh.

 

It would be like David and Goliath, if David was a very old man and Goliath was a political chameleon who has been running for President for over a decade.

 

Nah, of she was really a chameleon we wouldn't be able to see her BS coming a mile away. She is just sad. A caricature of everything that is wrong with professional politicians. 

[PK htiw klaw eriF]

Nah, of she was really a chameleon we wouldn't be able to see her BS coming a mile away. She is just sad. A caricature of everything that is wrong with professional politicians.

Yes GD, you're correct. But I don't have a term on hand for a creature that rapidly changes colors to fit whatever circumstance that works better than "chameleon".

 

 

And Cruz is out after losing Indiana.

It was only a matter of time.  Surely the Republicans were going to try to screw over Trump at the convention if he didn't secure the outright bid before then, but Trump is just way too popular and the whole Cruz/Kasich alliance backfired spectacularly.  Not to mention that Cruz is nearly as hated in Washington as Trump is.

 

Are they really surprised? If they wanted to stop Trump the time to do it would have been early in the primaries to allow support to rally behind Cruz or Rubio or whoever, by waiting they've fractured any "anti-Trump" sentiment in the Republican party to ensure that Trump would only lose the nomination in a contested convention, which will make them look like ****. Tactically speaking, the Republican party is either stuck with Trump or driving off a large portion of their base.

Edited May 4, 2016 by KaineParker

[Keyrock]

 

Are they really surprised? If they wanted to stop Trump the time to do it would have been early in the primaries to allow support to rally behind Cruz or Rubio or whoever, by waiting they've fractured any "anti-Trump" sentiment in the Republican party to ensure that Trump would only lose the nomination in a contested convention, which will make them look like ****. Tactically speaking, the Republican party is either stuck with Trump or driving off a large portion of their base.

 

 

This whole race has been a comedy of errors by the GoP.  They laughes Trump off as a joke for WAAAAAY too long and by the time they got serious it was far too late.  All the reasonable GoP candidates had either already dropped out or were on their last legs and the only one left who could realistically challenge Trump was one of the most hated men in Washington.  I'm not sure the GoP could have played this race any worse than they did.

 

Edit: The worst part is that because the GoP botched this so spectacularly we're probably going to wind up with Hillary as president. *cringes*

Edited May 4, 2016 by Keyrock

[Bartimaeus]

 

 

Now all Sanders has to do is get like 80% of California....

All we need is a major gaffe for Hillary and he can do it.

 

Would that be a bigger upset than Leicester winning the EPL? I don't know but it would make me laugh.

 

Leicester winning the EPL had 1 to 5000 odds. They're calling it literally the biggest upset of its kind in all of modern sporting history, so probably not. I think Bernie's odds are a little bit better than that...but it's effectively nearly as impossible.

[ShadySands]

I don't think Hillary would lose that badly even if she was indicted, tried, and convicted before the primary

 

Even if she had a Scooby Doo mask reveal tomorrow and turned out to be Hitler I'm pretty sure she'd still pull at least 40%

 

 

PS she would have gotten away with it too if it wasn't for those meddling Obama Boys, I mean Bernie Bros

Edited May 4, 2016 by ShadySands

[Bartimaeus]

If she was indicted by Obama's DoJ, though, it would likely mean there's no party support behind her, and no faith in her candidacy. The Clintons, if nothing else, have been pretty loyal to the Democratic Party - I don't think she'd push ahead with her candidacy knowing it was suicide for the party.

[ShadySands]

Maybe. If I was a Democrat then I'd sure hope so.

 

Personally, I'm not so sure she'd put the party before her last chance to be president. I'm sure if she had no chance then sure but if she had still had a decent chance of winning the general election at a cost to the party... I dunno. I think she might risk it

 

Not that I think anything is going to come of it, mind you. I was just trying to make the point that I don't think there is any way that Hillary could lose by a margin large enough for Sanders to catch up

 

 

 

I should have said Mecha Hitler with anime eyes to make my previous example even more ridiculous

[Valsuelm]

Hillary is only loyal to herself. She'd burn the democratic party in a heartbeat if it benefited her to do so.

It currently does not as it comes with millions of at best barely informed mindless zombies (Shadyhands post above is sadly not an exaggeration, the woman could be caught on film raping her dead grandma and most of the people voting for her now would still vote for her) , so it's in her interest (and the interest of those who would anoint her) to play the blue game.

Edited May 4, 2016 by Valsuelm

[Bartimaeus]

Maybe I should've just said "Bill Clinton has been pretty loyal to the Democratic Party"...I guess that doesn't guarantee much about Hillary.

[ShadySands]

To be fair I don't think there are many politician who would put their party or whatever they are representing before their own aspirations. 

 

But maybe I have an unreasonably negative opinion of politicians. I have been pretty negative lately

 

 

Also, I was reading something about Hillary not raising nearly as much money for down ballot races as was claimed. I'll post it if I can find the article again

Found it

Edited May 4, 2016 by ShadySands

[Zoraptor]

If Hillary is indicted she'll surely have to pull out. If it were partisan (or looked partisan) like Bill's indictment while president was it would be survivable but in this situation it would be hard to spin it as partisan or similar.

 

That is the only believable way for Bernie to win at this point though. Otherwise it's not even at Leicester City odds.

 

(Having said that, Nottingham Forest in the late 70s were a bigger upset than Leicester since they went on to win the European Cup, twice).

[Guard Dog]

 

 

Even if she had a Scooby Doo mask reveal tomorrow and turned out to be Hitler I'm pretty sure she'd still pull at least 40%

 

 

PS she would have gotten away with it too if it wasn't for those meddling Obama Boys, I mean Bernie Bros

Thanks! Now I have coffee all over my monitor! 

[Leferd]

Kasich going to drop out.

 

The GOP strategy should be to just punt the Presidential Election and try to save their Senate and House seats.

[Leferd]

Updated November odds from PaddyPower

 

Clinton beats Trump 1/5

Trump beats Clinton 11/4

[Hurlshort]

I probably need to start studying up on 3rd party folks, but it is pretty early.  

[Valsuelm]

The GOP strategy should be to just punt the Presidential Election and try to save their Senate and House seats.

 

Now there's some wishful thinking. You'll have a better time wishing yourself some millions. I hope you succeed on the latter.

 

The danger of Republicans losing both at this point isn't much more than marginal, the danger of them losing even one isn't much higher than that. While the importation of Democrats has been in high gear for the last decade, for the most part they're just reinforcing already very blue areas. And while that may make a difference in the Presidential campaign, it won't make much of a difference in the locals. In other words, there's very few toss up races. Places that are traditionally red are very likely to vote red this election and places that are traditionally blue are very likely to vote blue this election, for the locals. And if either party has any momentum or is motivated this election, it's the Republicans. Though the big story of this election is just how sick and tired average Joe/Jane are of both of the major parties.

 

Punting the Presidential election would be retarded, and it's not the whole thing works anyways. It's not like they have to make much of a choice where to allocate resources, as it's not like there's any lack of any, for either the RNC or the DNC.

Edited May 4, 2016 by Valsuelm

[Leferd]

It's not likely the result will be a Democrat sitting as Speaker next year, but if I were a betting man in Dublin Ireland, and getting even odds --I'd hypothetically wager a pot of gold on a Clinton administration and Harry Reid as the Majority Leader in the Senate.

[Valsuelm]

[Valsuelm]

Romanian hacker Guccifer: I breached Clinton server, 'it was easy'

 

[Guard Dog]

In other news:http://freebeacon.com/issues/april-marks-12th-straight-month-record-gun-sales/

 

[Wrath of Dagon]

It's not likely the result will be a Democrat sitting as Speaker next year, but if I were a betting man in Dublin Ireland, and getting even odds --I'd hypothetically wager a pot of gold on a Clinton administration and Harry Reid as the Majority Leader in the Senate.

Fortunately Dirty Harry is retiring, so at worse it's Schumer. Dems do have a very good chance of capturing the Senate, since Republicans are defending 20 seats and Dems 9. What's worse, those seats were won 6 years ago, i.e. in an off-year election, which strongly favor Republicans. Oh well, hoping for Hilzilla indictment or FBI recommendation for it after the convention, and a blow-out for Trump. Edited May 5, 2016 by Wrath of Dagon

[Valsuelm]

I probably need to start studying up on 3rd party folks, but it is pretty early.

Probably the best of the bunch right here:

 

Who doesn't want free candy?

 

One can always write in candidates too. That's what I often do. Mickey Mouse and Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho are always solid options. I usually put Yosemite Sam for sheriff at the local level. Bugs Bunny and Daffy Duck are great if you want to keep different governmental branches at odds with each other. If I lived in the southwest like you, I'd also consider Speedy Gonzales. He's a quick thinker, always has his heart and mind in the right place, and would probably be good at just about anything.