Oerwinde Posted May 7, 2015 Posted May 7, 2015 You guys are right, I have removed the " she deserves it part" Now do you like her? No. Besides being a woman - and, as you pointed out, succeeding in spite of it in a very poisonous political climate - she stands for most everything I hate about U.S. politics - corporate backing, family ties and other questionable connections, being put mostly in a position to succeed by others - just like everyone else who runs for anything even half-important in this godforsaken, nepotistic country - and straight up, I did not not like her part in the Obama administration (being a grand part of the "most transparent administration ever", HA), and I have little love for what I know of her politics. Why in the world do YOU think we should like her for president? You still haven't given any bloody reasons that would actually play into why she makes a good candidate. Because she succeeded at manipulating her way into positions of import, just like everyone else who holds/has held those positions have? You should vote for her for several reasons, the main ones being she does have the credentials, experience and ability. So she is a women who actually meets the criteria ....she is not some token. That should be reason enough ? She's also an ****. The area between the balls and the butt is a hotbed of terrorist activity.
HoonDing Posted May 7, 2015 Posted May 7, 2015 I'd vote for women, if they were competent. The ending of the words is ALMSIVI.
Hurlshort Posted May 7, 2015 Posted May 7, 2015 You guys have some weird ideas about Hilary Clinton. I am not going to vote for her because of her pro-corporate stance and because I'm tired of these entrenched politicians running the country, plus she has not shown an ability to work across the aisle. She is, however, an incredibly hard working politician. She went to like every country as secretary of state. Seriously. Also, who cares if she is a ****? All presidents are ****. That is a qualification. Jimmy Carter wasn't a **** and look what type of president he was.
Ineth Posted May 7, 2015 Posted May 7, 2015 "Representing people" Well, union bosses anyway. 1 "Some ideas are so stupid that only an intellectual could believe them." -- attributed to George Orwell
ShadySands Posted May 7, 2015 Author Posted May 7, 2015 Yeah, but look at how great of a ex president Carter has been ;P Free games updated 3/4/21
Meshugger Posted May 7, 2015 Posted May 7, 2015 "Representing people" Well, union bosses anyway. Unions have zero power in the US anyway. I would gladly vote just to see what would happen with a president that told Wall Street to go **** themselves. "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy
Hurlshort Posted May 7, 2015 Posted May 7, 2015 Unions are very powerful at local levels, for better or worse.
Meshugger Posted May 7, 2015 Posted May 7, 2015 Unions are very powerful at local levels, for better or worse. Here they pretty much dictate the labour market completely. Even with support of a President, they could never get the same kind of power in the US since it would most likely break quite a few laws. That's why it would be a at least a fun ride to break the current status quo. "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy
PK htiw klaw eriF Posted May 7, 2015 Posted May 7, 2015 "Representing people" Well, union bosses anyway. I'll take the unions over wall street any day. Unions have zero power in the US anyway. I would gladly vote just to see what would happen with a president that told Wall Street to go **** themselves. That's part of the appeal for me. "Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic "you're a damned filthy lying robot and you deserve to die and burn in hell." - Bartimaeus "Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander "Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador "You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort "thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex "Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock "Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco "we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii "I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing "feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth "Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi "Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor "I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine "I love cheese despite the pain and carnage." - ShadySands
Maedhros Posted May 7, 2015 Posted May 7, 2015 Liking what I'm hearing from Bernie Sanders. H. Clinton is so yawn.
Amentep Posted May 7, 2015 Posted May 7, 2015 Unions are very powerful at local levels, for better or worse. Really depends on the local levels. Right-to-work states generally speaking have very weak unions (or none at all). I cannot - yet I must. How do you calculate that? At what point on the graph do "must" and "cannot" meet? Yet I must - but I cannot! ~ Ro-Man
Calax Posted May 7, 2015 Posted May 7, 2015 Unions are very powerful at local levels, for better or worse. Really depends on the local levels. Right-to-work states generally speaking have very weak unions (or none at all). Have you met the California Teacher's Union? Victor of the 5 year fan fic competition! Kevin Butler will awesome your face off.
ShadySands Posted May 7, 2015 Author Posted May 7, 2015 California is not a "right to work state", no? Free games updated 3/4/21
Amentep Posted May 7, 2015 Posted May 7, 2015 (edited) Correct, California is not a right to work state, so you can be compelled to join a union and pay dues for their benefits even if you don't agree with the union/union heads/direction of the union or else lose your job. Edited May 7, 2015 by Amentep 2 I cannot - yet I must. How do you calculate that? At what point on the graph do "must" and "cannot" meet? Yet I must - but I cannot! ~ Ro-Man
ShadySands Posted May 7, 2015 Author Posted May 7, 2015 I went ahead and donated to Bernie and will probably make some 3rd party donations before long 1 Free games updated 3/4/21
Oerwinde Posted May 7, 2015 Posted May 7, 2015 Jimmy Carter wasn't a **** and look what type of president he was. I wasn't born until he was out of the white house, but from what I gather, he was ahead of his time and underappreciated, and has one of the highest hidsight approval ratings in presidential history. The area between the balls and the butt is a hotbed of terrorist activity.
Calax Posted May 7, 2015 Posted May 7, 2015 Jimmy Carter wasn't a **** and look what type of president he was. I wasn't born until he was out of the white house, but from what I gather, he was ahead of his time and underappreciated, and has one of the highest hidsight approval ratings in presidential history. I think part of the problem was that a LOT of his policies took a while to dial in. Meanwhile Reagan's campaign winning line was "Are you better off now than you were 4 years ago?" Which the Republicans/Romney tried to pull off on Obama to less success. Victor of the 5 year fan fic competition! Kevin Butler will awesome your face off.
Wrath of Dagon Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 (edited) Hilary Clinton of course, she rocks and its time the USA had an appropriate women president I am just disappointed that most of you guys don't seem to like her? Why is that Because she's a liar and a crook without a shred of integrity. Also it seems insane to me to vote for a position that affects almost everybody based on the candidate's sexual organs. Really surprised so many Americans in this thread are Socialists. I mean I expect that from Europeans. Edit: Btw, in case someone's been living in a cave : http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/04/26/11-explosive-clinton-cash-facts-mainstream-media-confirm-are-accurate/ Edited May 8, 2015 by Wrath of Dagon "Moral indignation is a standard strategy for endowing the idiot with dignity." Marshall McLuhan
Zoraptor Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 There'd be a fair few Ron Paul supporters here as well, probably more than average. Maybe not so many Randies since he's more mainstream. The main candidates from either side certainly don't look too appealing though, and there will usually be more support for fringe candidates on the internet anyway.
cirdanx Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 Oh the circus has allready started..thats too funny. "A reader lives a thousand lives before he dies, the man who never reads lives one."
Guard Dog Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 Election thread already? Ugh. "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell
Namutree Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 Barti...you should vote on the side of righteousness and advancement ....vote Clinton Unless Bill is her VP and he plans on assassinating her on day 1 of being president, I don't think so. He may or may not be morally bankrupt, but at least he was a decent president. Considering that he helped escalate hostility between the US and Iraq, expanded the insane self-destructive drug war, lied to the country about his affair, and signed DOMA into law; no, he was a terrible president whose popularity is a testament to how poorly people judge politicians. Personally I'm hoping for Rand Paul. He's far from perfect, but I can't be too picky or else I won't even be voting. "Good thing I don't heal my characters or they'd be really hurt." Is not something I should ever be thinking. I use blue text when I'm being sarcastic.
Guard Dog Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 I am marginally supporting Rand Paul. Much as I like Ben Carson and Carly Fiorino I don't see the sense in giving someone the top job in politics who have no experience in politics. I'd vote for Scott Walker too if he gets nominated. Any of the others, no way. An hell will freeze solid before I ever cast a vote for one of those miserable, filthy, freedom hating democrats. But to tell the truth beyond judicial appointments (which is a big deal) whoever is in the White House will matter less than who is in congress. "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell
Wrath of Dagon Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 (edited) Yeah, one more term for the Democrats and it's almost a certainty they'll replace one of the old Conservatives on the Supreme Court. Then good bye to the Second Amendment. It's almost enough to make me vote for the lying Republican scum. Edited May 8, 2015 by Wrath of Dagon "Moral indignation is a standard strategy for endowing the idiot with dignity." Marshall McLuhan
Hurlshort Posted May 9, 2015 Posted May 9, 2015 Yeah, one more term for the Democrats and it's almost a certainty they'll replace one of the old Conservatives on the Supreme Court. Then good bye to the Second Amendment. It's almost enough to make me vote for the lying Republican scum. Yeah, I doubt that. They can't even get a background check through. You really give the democrats way too much credit.
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