Gairnulf Posted February 24, 2015 Posted February 24, 2015 (edited) Personally I was very happy to read that: "No, we want to do a traditional expansion, and we're in the early stages of planning for that right now. Part of the Kickstarter campaign was a full expansion, so we're definitely doing a Tales of the Sword Coast style campaign," they told us in our interview. "We're still in the early stages of design for that right now, though. What I would say about additional content other than that, is that I would like to see any gameplay tweaks and changes we make in an expansion get rolled into a free patch. So if you don't want to buy an expansion, you get all the same gameplay benefits without the extra story." http://www.gamewatcher.com/news/2015-24-02-obsidian-pillars-of-eternity-will-grow-with-traditional-expansion-wants-improvements-rolled-into-a-free-patch Edited February 24, 2015 by Gairnulf 10 A Custom Editor for Deadfire's Data:
PK htiw klaw eriF Posted February 24, 2015 Posted February 24, 2015 So additional content added rather than another campaign? I can live with that. ToB wasn't as good as SoA TBH. 2 "Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic "you're a damned filthy lying robot and you deserve to die and burn in hell." - Bartimaeus "Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander "Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador "You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort "thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex "Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock "Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco "we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii "I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing "feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth "Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi "Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor "I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine "I love cheese despite the pain and carnage." - ShadySands
Gairnulf Posted February 24, 2015 Author Posted February 24, 2015 (edited) ToB had me forcing myself to finish it. I found the story rather dull - seek out and destroy. I think it's nice they will be releasing the fixes and improvements as a free patch for people who don't buy the expansion. But this also confirms my expectations there will be much to fix and patch in the initial release... Edited February 24, 2015 by Gairnulf A Custom Editor for Deadfire's Data:
Mazisky Posted February 24, 2015 Posted February 24, 2015 Yeah! much better a more complete unique campaign than a new short one
Mannock Posted February 24, 2015 Posted February 24, 2015 Sounds good for those that won't buy the expansion. 1 I'll do it, for a turnip. DnD item quality description mod (for PoE2) by peardox
bonarbill Posted February 24, 2015 Posted February 24, 2015 (edited) Nice, so we'll be getting a crappy expansion that can be completed in a few hours plus a lame dungeon. Edited February 24, 2015 by bonarbill 2
Mannock Posted February 24, 2015 Posted February 24, 2015 Nice, so we'll be getting a crappy expansion that can be completed in a few hours plus a lame dungeon. So a half empty glass, eh? Cheer up! 1 I'll do it, for a turnip. DnD item quality description mod (for PoE2) by peardox
Mazisky Posted February 24, 2015 Posted February 24, 2015 (edited) This kind of expansion enhance the singles, full, playthrougs, so i'm fine with that. It's worth for replaying Edited February 24, 2015 by Mazisky 1
Nonek Posted February 24, 2015 Posted February 24, 2015 (edited) Durlag's Tower, really one of the finest dungeons ever created in my humble opinion. Superior even to Demigorgon's prison if I may be so bold. Edited February 24, 2015 by Nonek 12 Quite an experience to live in misery isn't it? That's what it is to be married with children.I've seen things you people can't even imagine. Pearly Kings glittering on the Elephant and Castle, Morris Men dancing 'til the last light of midsummer. I watched Druid fires burning in the ruins of Stonehenge, and Yorkshiremen gurning for prizes. All these things will be lost in time, like alopecia on a skinhead. Time for tiffin. Tea for the teapot!
Quadrone Posted February 24, 2015 Posted February 24, 2015 I'll wait until more concrete info about the expansion is available before my final judgement, but should the expansion really be entirely like TotSC I'd be disappointed. By the point the expansion is out I'll have Eternity finished twice over easily, without some continuation for my character there is no hook for me to jump in again and even shell out money for what amounts to extra sidequests. I don't mind if the expansion retroactively adds new stuff to the original game but I also want something that chronologically plays after I defeated the big bad of the main quest line. 4
Leferd Posted February 24, 2015 Posted February 24, 2015 The TotSC or HoW style expansion would be my preference. "Things are funny...are comedic, because they mix the real with the absurd." - Buzz Aldrin."P-O-T-A-T-O-E" - Dan Quayle
mychal26 Posted February 24, 2015 Posted February 24, 2015 In my opinion, TotSC type expansions are quite a bit worse than ToB/MotB type expansions if only because the former type feel more as an optional area to explore, not something directly related to the story. However, if the team has a direction that they want to take the sequel (which is hopefully tied directly to the first game with the same characters), and adding additional main story sequences will somehow disrupt the transition between games, I think a TotSC type expansion would be the most beneficial. 1
ruzen Posted February 24, 2015 Posted February 24, 2015 (edited) I was hoping for new lands, class, side quests not a aftermath campaign. So I'm happy and I'm prety sure that I'm gona like stronghold feature I would like to see more of It eventhough I know very few abaout It **Also since gta5 pc relese delayed again. I think I will fully focus to the game now Edited February 24, 2015 by ruzen Kana - "Sorry. It seems I'm not very good at raising spirits." Kana winces. "That was unintentional."
LadyCrimson Posted February 24, 2015 Posted February 24, 2015 The quote quoted in the OP pleases me. Durlag's Tower, really one of the finest dungeons ever created in my humble opinion. Superior even to Demigorgon's prison if I may be so bold. +1 4 “Things are as they are. Looking out into the universe at night, we make no comparisons between right and wrong stars, nor between well and badly arranged constellations.” – Alan Watts
Tsuga C Posted February 24, 2015 Posted February 24, 2015 Proper expansion packs should stand on their own story-wise, not merely add to the original campaign. If the e.p. is truly high in quality and content, I'm sure I'll be happy to overlook its failure to be its own story, though. That's one benefit of pursuing multiple runs through the campaign as a rule--new NPCs, quests, and swag keep the campaign fresh. http://cbrrescue.org/ Go afield with a good attitude, with respect for the wildlife you hunt and for the forests and fields in which you walk. Immerse yourself in the outdoors experience. It will cleanse your soul and make you a better person.----Fred Bear http://michigansaf.org/
Leferd Posted February 25, 2015 Posted February 25, 2015 Personally I was very happy to read that: "No, we want to do a traditional expansion, and we're in the early stages of planning for that right now. Part of the Kickstarter campaign was a full expansion, so we're definitely doing a Tales of the Sword Coast style campaign," they told us in our interview. "We're still in the early stages of design for that right now, though. What I would say about additional content other than that, is that I would like to see any gameplay tweaks and changes we make in an expansion get rolled into a free patch. So if you don't want to buy an expansion, you get all the same gameplay benefits without the extra story." http://www.gamewatcher.com/news/2015-24-02-obsidian-pillars-of-eternity-will-grow-with-traditional-expansion-wants-improvements-rolled-into-a-free-patch I do find it strange that the quotes aren't attributed to a specific developer. I don't doubt the veracity of the statements...but still, that's pretty shoddy journalism. I figure it'd have been Sawyer though. "Things are funny...are comedic, because they mix the real with the absurd." - Buzz Aldrin."P-O-T-A-T-O-E" - Dan Quayle
Karkarov Posted February 25, 2015 Posted February 25, 2015 (edited) I do find it strange that the quotes aren't attributed to a specific developer. I don't doubt the veracity of the statements...but still, that's pretty shoddy journalism. I figure it'd have been Sawyer though. Reading it makes me think it was ripped out of a different interview article from a different website to begin with. Which wouldn't really surprise me. Edited February 25, 2015 by Karkarov
bronzepoem Posted February 25, 2015 Posted February 25, 2015 Coooool~ Her mind is Tiffany-twisted, She got the Mercedes Benz She's got a lot of pretty, pretty boys, that she calls friends How they dance in the courtyard, sweet summer sweat. Some dance to remember, some dance to forget
bronzepoem Posted February 25, 2015 Posted February 25, 2015 (edited) ToB had me forcing myself to finish it. I found the story rather dull - seek out and destroy. I think it's nice they will be releasing the fixes and improvements as a free patch for people who don't buy the expansion. But this also confirms my expectations there will be much to fix and patch in the initial release... The worse part of ToB was that the new items and abilitys ruined the orignial balance of BG2. Also the story line was very closed without any exploring elements.I won't play it second time. Of course ToSC had its weakness. The story line was too short and no new companion.But that's easy to be improved.The style of ToSC is much better than a single closed new campaign. Edited February 25, 2015 by bronzepoem Her mind is Tiffany-twisted, She got the Mercedes Benz She's got a lot of pretty, pretty boys, that she calls friends How they dance in the courtyard, sweet summer sweat. Some dance to remember, some dance to forget
Luckmann Posted February 25, 2015 Posted February 25, 2015 To me, this is exactly how expansions should be: expanding upon the mechanics, content, storyline(s) and characters of the main game. This is excellent, excellent news to me. Entirely new areas of the world, a new main story, etc, are things that almost defines a sequel. In many ways, Throne of Bhaal wasn't an expansion, it was a sequel, and as far as I know, it was originally intended to be one. I lever liked the "glue something on at the end" format, so I can only go awww yiiis. 4
Gairnulf Posted February 25, 2015 Author Posted February 25, 2015 It's remarkable how we discuss ToSC like it came out last week, but don't forget that's not the case. I'm sure Obsidian has learned lessons from observing ToSC and from their work on PoE, and similar to how PoE aims to have an improved over IE experience, so will its expansion try to avoid the bad sides of ToSC. I'm an optimist about the expansion and I think it will constitute the "gold" version of PoE of course together with the original. A Custom Editor for Deadfire's Data:
apolloooo Posted February 25, 2015 Posted February 25, 2015 oh, i hoped it would be more like Throne of Bhaal / Mask of The Betrayer. kinda continuation to the main story 1
Luckmann Posted February 25, 2015 Posted February 25, 2015 [...] Of course ToSC had its weakness. The story line was too short and no new companion.But that's easy to be improved.The style of ToSC is much better than a single closed new campaign. TotSC didn't need new companions, though; BG1 had a plethora of companions, and while it would've been interesting and nice for TotSC to add new CNPC:s, BG1 didn't really need it. By comparison, PoE could really do with at least a tripling of the available CNPC:s and there'd still be ample room for improvement. I second that the major TotSC questline was too short, and I hope that any PoE expansion opts to make a few major questlines (not just one really major questline that sticks off the main game like a weird thumb) scattered throughout the game. And add, like, 32 CNPC:s. 2
Namutree Posted February 25, 2015 Posted February 25, 2015 ToB is easily the worst part of the Baldur's Gate Saga. Even worse; it's existence killed any chance of a proper BG3. So happy to see that this expansion will not be like that. I'd sooner see PoE have no expansion at all than one like ToB. 4 "Good thing I don't heal my characters or they'd be really hurt." Is not something I should ever be thinking. I use blue text when I'm being sarcastic.
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