Journalism and sexism in the games industry

[PK htiw klaw eriF]

 

EDIT: HOLY**** MOVIEBOB IS GONE, THE ESCAPIST HAS BEEN CLEANSED!

https://twitter.com/reddchanit/status/566317176664367104/photo/1

Edited February 13, 2015 by KaineParker

[dorkboy]

Yeah, definitely not a toxic forum.

[Keyrock]

Is that a SVU Valentines Day card? 

 

Oh man, that just made my day.  Thank you for that.

Edited February 13, 2015 by Keyrock

[PK htiw klaw eriF]

Is that a SVU Valentines Day card? 

Yes.

[Longknife]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7faUHdlh9g

 

 

I scoured the internet for an appropriate reaction video and I believe I finally found one:

 

http://youtu.be/MNpkSyryQz4?t=5m15s

 

(***Note that the rest of the video shows them playing Mortal Kombat so if you choose to stick around after the game footage restarts or skip ahead to see what they're reacting to, expect over-the-top levels of violence***)

Edited February 13, 2015 by Longknife

[Zoraptor]

Yeah, to me, whether Wu was or wasn't a dude at some point means nothing.  As for the mental instability, I don't need Milo to show me that.  Anyone with a pair of eyeballs and a brain can see that she's a stark raving lunatic.

 

Dunno, she's making 12k (?) on patreon per month. If I were on 144k USD p/a because of some twitter warrioring I wouldn't care even slightly if I came off as nutty as squirrel poo. If it is madness, yet there is method to it- to paraphrase Polonius.

 

Yeah, it really doesn't matter at all if she's trans, even less so than that Milo's gay. It's far more important that she's done some distinctly questionable things to get her profile up such as sockpuppeting abusive twitter accounts or (almost certainly) faking fleeing her home.

 

Breitbart is pretty terrible. They are, broadly speaking, on 'our' side but it's an alliance of convenience primarily and simply being on 'our' side doesn't make them not terrible; it's more an 'enemy of our enemy' situation.

[Fighter]

I don't often feel this way but I'm not sorry for Moviebob being fired.

 

[Oerwinde]

 

 

Yeah, to me, whether Wu was or wasn't a dude at some point means nothing. As for the mental instability, I don't need Milo to show me that. Anyone with a pair of eyeballs and a brain can see that she's a stark raving lunatic.

Dunno, she's making 12k (?) on patreon per month. If I were on 144k USD p/a because of some twitter warrioring I wouldn't care even slightly if I came off as nutty as squirrel poo. If it is madness, yet there is method to it- to paraphrase Polonius.

 

Yeah, it really doesn't matter at all if she's trans, even less so than that Milo's gay. It's far more important that she's done some distinctly questionable things to get her profile up such as sockpuppeting abusive twitter accounts or (almost certainly) faking fleeing her home.

 

Breitbart is pretty terrible. They are, broadly speaking, on 'our' side but it's an alliance of convenience primarily and simply being on 'our' side doesn't make them not terrible; it's more an 'enemy of our enemy' situation.

The 13k per month was due to a one time 10k donation. Its more like 3500. Which is still almost twice what I make per month.

[Malcador]

Hah, that Chipman **** got sacked ? Shame he'll just on the virtual street corner of Patreon and get $10k a month.

[BruceVC]

Guys I admire your equanimity in response to the fact that GG doesn't have the support of the mainstream media but how do you imagine GG will progress without this type of backing, doesn't it limit your influence or do you prefer operating on the Internet only?

[Keyrock]

I don't often feel this way but I'm not sorry for Moviebob being fired.

 

Again.  The ends justify the means, in a nutshell.

[Oerwinde]

Guys I admire your equanimity in response to the fact that GG doesn't have the support of the mainstream media but how do you imagine GG will progress without this type of backing, doesn't it limit your influence or do you prefer operating on the Internet only?

Well its starting to backfire now. The SVU episode has caused a backlash against the gaming press amongst major developers now, with high ups in Blizzard and Ubisoft coming out in favor now. It just seems like just a matter of time before the support leads to a spillover into the mainstream media.

[Barothmuk]

Again.  The ends justify the means, in a nutshell.

Not really, just a silly quote.

 

A tactic that doesn't work would be by definition "a bad tactic".

 

It just seems like just a matter of time before the support leads to a spillover into the mainstream media.

Mainstream media doesn't consider "lack of ethics/corruption/whatever in games journalism" to be a story worth running.

 

Try and explain "Gamergate" to what mainstream media considers its target audience and I guarantee they wouldn't give a flying ****.

Edited February 14, 2015 by Barothmuk

[Orogun01]

 

Guys I admire your equanimity in response to the fact that GG doesn't have the support of the mainstream media but how do you imagine GG will progress without this type of backing, doesn't it limit your influence or do you prefer operating on the Internet only?

Well its starting to backfire now. The SVU episode has caused a backlash against the gaming press amongst major developers now, with high ups in Blizzard and Ubisoft coming out in favor now. It just seems like just a matter of time before the support leads to a spillover into the mainstream media.

 

Plus, a lot of people won't know that the episode was loosely based on an internet controversy and the mainstream's memory has a short half life. Also if the mainstream is willing to believe that we talk in gaming puns who needs them? We can win without co-op.

[pseudonymous]

how do you imagine GG will progress

 

No one cares.  For all the bluster that the Justice League of Internetardia throws around, the hashtag is still just people disagreeing with each other on the internet with a few websites cashing in on the extra traffic.  Most people have real problems to deal with.  

[PK htiw klaw eriF]

Guys I admire your equanimity in response to the fact that GG doesn't have the support of the mainstream media but how do you imagine GG will progress without this type of backing, doesn't it limit your influence or do you prefer operating on the Internet only?

I said this to you before Bruce, but I'll repeat myself.

 

Brian Williams. UVA rape scandal.

 

The media doesn't have the best credibility, and shrieking about how a group of butthurt anons on teh interwebs are behind a vast conspiracy to keep women out of gaming isn't going to help that. It's an insane narrative, as the fictional Law and Order episode showed.

[BruceVC]

 

Guys I admire your equanimity in response to the fact that GG doesn't have the support of the mainstream media but how do you imagine GG will progress without this type of backing, doesn't it limit your influence or do you prefer operating on the Internet only?

I said this to you before Bruce, but I'll repeat myself.

 

Brian Williams. UVA rape scandal.

 

The media doesn't have the best credibility, and shrieking about how a group of butthurt anons on teh interwebs are behind a vast conspiracy to keep women out of gaming isn't going to help that. It's an insane narrative, as the fictional Law and Order episode showed.

 

 

Okay but those are isolated examples that I wouldn't think detracts from the support mainstream media still receives?

 

And I assume its still important to get the right message across about GG , that requires media ?

[Volourn]

'Guys I admire your equanimity in response to the fact that GG doesn't have the support of the mainstream media but how do you imagine GG will progress without this type of backing, doesn't it limit your influence or do you prefer operating on the Internet only?"

 

The mainstream media is unimportant. They have no power.  There';s NOT a damn thing they can do to GG. NOTHING.

 

*goes abck to playing games*

 

 

See, they have no power.

[Namutree]

Is this from the SVU episode or something?

Edited February 14, 2015 by Namutree

[BruceVC]

'Guys I admire your equanimity in response to the fact that GG doesn't have the support of the mainstream media but how do you imagine GG will progress without this type of backing, doesn't it limit your influence or do you prefer operating on the Internet only?"

 

The mainstream media is unimportant. They have no power.  There';s NOT a damn thing they can do to GG. NOTHING.

 

*goes abck to playing games*

 

 

See, they have no power.

 

Your post made me laugh

 

[Fighter]

Not really, just a silly quote.

A tactic that doesn't work would be by definition "a bad tactic".

 

Well I'm glad you think it's "silly" that people get doxxed for having the "wrong" opinion on the internet. Because I find it disgusting.

[Blarghagh]

Guys I admire your equanimity in response to the fact that GG doesn't have the support of the mainstream media but how do you imagine GG will progress without this type of backing, doesn't it limit your influence or do you prefer operating on the Internet only?

Well its starting to backfire now. The SVU episode has caused a backlash against the gaming press amongst major developers now, with high ups in Blizzard and Ubisoft coming out in favor now. It just seems like just a matter of time before the support leads to a spillover into the mainstream media.

 

Source?

[Longknife]

 

Guys I admire your equanimity in response to the fact that GG doesn't have the support of the mainstream media but how do you imagine GG will progress without this type of backing, doesn't it limit your influence or do you prefer operating on the Internet only?

Well its starting to backfire now. The SVU episode has caused a backlash against the gaming press amongst major developers now, with high ups in Blizzard and Ubisoft coming out in favor now. It just seems like just a matter of time before the support leads to a spillover into the mainstream media.

 

Source?

 

 

 

I think I've seen both, but give me a second, I just woke up. Been sick as hell lately. I think the Blizzard guy's comment was more "thanks video games journalism for setting a narrative that allowed this" in regards to the episode and there is a Ubisoft guy who was supporting GG though I think Ubi has a bit of both. Could be wrong though but I'll try to find them.

[Longknife]

Binding of Isaac repre-****ing-sent:  http://gamergate.community/t/danielle-mcmillen-plays-isaac-while-ed-gives-some-thoughts-about-gamergate/1275

 

I sure can pick 'em. :D  Gotta admit too, it feels good to hear him mention he values artistic merit when not long ago, I was saying this is a game that holds artistic merit. It's good to hear it comes from the developer himself, an implication that it was all very much intended and not me finding symbolism where there wasn't any.

[PK htiw klaw eriF]

 

 

Guys I admire your equanimity in response to the fact that GG doesn't have the support of the mainstream media but how do you imagine GG will progress without this type of backing, doesn't it limit your influence or do you prefer operating on the Internet only?

 

Well its starting to backfire now. The SVU episode has caused a backlash against the gaming press amongst major developers now, with high ups in Blizzard and Ubisoft coming out in favor now. It just seems like just a matter of time before the support leads to a spillover into the mainstream media.

 

Source?

No one's coming out in favor per se, but a WoW slammed games media and Ethan James Petty has been calling out the bull **** narrative for a while.

 

I also sent a girl the Valentine's image I posted earlier.