LadyCrimson Posted November 26, 2014 Posted November 26, 2014 Last thread Last page of previous thread On with the show! The debate/s continue... “Things are as they are. Looking out into the universe at night, we make no comparisons between right and wrong stars, nor between well and badly arranged constellations.” – Alan Watts
PK htiw klaw eriF Posted November 27, 2014 Posted November 27, 2014 http://techraptor.net/content/untimely-gamer-attempts-boycott-seedscape-developers-political-views Pro-corruption folks fail to drive a woman out of the industry. Gamergate pushes and gets her game greenlight. Well done you magnificent bastards. 3 "Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic "you're a damned filthy lying robot and you deserve to die and burn in hell." - Bartimaeus "Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander "Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador "You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort "thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex "Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock "Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco "we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii "I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing "feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth "Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi "Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor "I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine "I love cheese despite the pain and carnage." - ShadySands
Fighter Posted November 27, 2014 Posted November 27, 2014 Pro-corruption folks fail to drive a woman out of the industry. LOL. Ironic indeed.
PK htiw klaw eriF Posted November 27, 2014 Posted November 27, 2014 Pro-corruption folks fail to drive a woman out of the industry. LOL. Ironic indeed. For being champions of women, they sure seem to want them to keep out of the industry. "Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic "you're a damned filthy lying robot and you deserve to die and burn in hell." - Bartimaeus "Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander "Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador "You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort "thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex "Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock "Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco "we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii "I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing "feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth "Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi "Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor "I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine "I love cheese despite the pain and carnage." - ShadySands
Ganrich Posted November 27, 2014 Posted November 27, 2014 After I linked the steam greenlight page for SeedScape I saw that TotalBiscuit had tweeted about the game. After that I figured there was no stopping a successful greenlight. It is sad that TB has enough clout to counteract the ambivalence from the rest of the media and some attempts to keep it from being greenlit from other sources. Although a "no" under the green light system just ensures the user never sees the game again. It won't counter a yes vote. Valve just wants enough buys to ensure it is justifiable to include in the store. I will likely buy it as I haven't had a good harvest moon or animal crossing game in a while. I have become pretty much PC only as I get older. Although a Nintendo system is the most likely console purchase for me since most the titles on the other consoles will likely hit pc. 1
Orogun01 Posted November 27, 2014 Posted November 27, 2014 This seems relevant http://guardianlv.com/2014/11/anita-sarkeesian-unmasked-feminist-icon-or-con-artist/ 1 I'd say the answer to that question is kind of like the answer to "who's the sucker in this poker game?"* *If you can't tell, it's you.
Meshugger Posted November 27, 2014 Posted November 27, 2014 This seems relevant http://guardianlv.com/2014/11/anita-sarkeesian-unmasked-feminist-icon-or-con-artist/ ...and already posted in the earlier thread But this Seedscape actually looks like a game (with stupidly adorable design). Quite interesting considering what the journalists on the other side of the fence have been championing and defending. "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy
Volourn Posted November 27, 2014 Posted November 27, 2014 Yeah, they are awlays crying about less 'violent so called manly' games and having more 'cutesy feminine' games (which is beyond sexist in ofitself) yet when one is on offer they oppose it even thoguh it's made by a friggin' woman. LMAO DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250.
Namutree Posted November 27, 2014 Posted November 27, 2014 http://techraptor.net/content/untimely-gamer-attempts-boycott-seedscape-developers-political-views Pro-corruption folks fail to drive a woman out of the industry. Gamergate pushes and gets her game greenlight. Well done you magnificent bastards. That seed game looks like harvest moon had a baby with animal crossing. "Good thing I don't heal my characters or they'd be really hurt." Is not something I should ever be thinking. I use blue text when I'm being sarcastic.
Longknife Posted November 27, 2014 Posted November 27, 2014 Number of video game titles by women GG has rallied to support: 2 Number of video game titles by women GG has rallied against: 0 Number of video game titles by women anti-GG has rallied to support: 0 Number of video game titles by women anti-GG has rallied against: 2 Sound about right? Did I forget anyone? "The Courier was the worst of all of them. The worst by far. When he died the first time, he must have met the devil, and then killed him." Is your mom hot? It may explain why guys were following her ?
Namutree Posted November 27, 2014 Posted November 27, 2014 (edited) Number of video game titles by women GG has rallied to support: 2 Number of video game titles by women GG has rallied against: 0 Number of video game titles by women anti-GG has rallied to support: 0 Number of video game titles by women anti-GG has rallied against: 2 Sound about right? Did I forget anyone? When anti-GG accused us of harassing women; it was just a case of projection. Edited November 27, 2014 by Namutree "Good thing I don't heal my characters or they'd be really hurt." Is not something I should ever be thinking. I use blue text when I'm being sarcastic.
Blarghagh Posted November 27, 2014 Posted November 27, 2014 So Robert Rosario, the IGDA exec who was unfairly placed on the blocklist, has been doxxed and had his children threatened and has had harassment incited against him for criticizing the blocklist and Raspberry Pi's decision to enforce it. Image here, photos of children and car censored: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B3aWX5eIcAAzUxJ.png Tell me again how GamerGate is responsible for harassment? I think the "opponents" of GamerGate as an entity, mostly characterised by outright stupidity before, have finally slipped into full on malice. It would be very easy at this point to paint with broad strokes and tell people that this is what you're supporting if you're against GamerGate, but thankfully I am not an idiot and I know not everyone who has an opinion on GamerGate is a harasser. 2
Meshugger Posted November 27, 2014 Posted November 27, 2014 The underlying cruelty of those people amaze me at some times. I wonder of they can try to justify murder anytime soon...better not dwell in those thoughts. Chomsky on post-modernistic thoughts and methods, sound familiar? 3 "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy
Blarghagh Posted November 27, 2014 Posted November 27, 2014 https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2nkb5d/former_aaa_developer_explains_how_the/ Badly written but fascinating read about how journalists affect you as a game developer, most of which jives with my personal experience. 1
Meshugger Posted November 27, 2014 Posted November 27, 2014 Milo is on the warpath again: http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/11/27/An-open-letter-to-Bloomberg-s-Sheelah-Kolhatkar-on-the-delicate-matter-of-Anita-Sarkeesian Whenever feminist groups have partnered with social media organisations, their censorship targets have been critics of feminism and not abusers. Their overarching aim is to press for government regulation of the internet, perhaps even targeting anonymity itself. That's because anonymity is a place where cultural hegemony is challenged. With their media connections and celebrity support, social justice warriors are the cultural hegemony, regardless of how much they claim to be oppressed victims. I....I agree with Milo? Before i know it, maybe Glen Beck sounds a reasonable man by how this is going. "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy
Longknife Posted November 27, 2014 Posted November 27, 2014 (edited) Number of video game titles by women GG has rallied to support: 2 Number of video game titles by women GG has rallied against: 0 Number of video game titles by women anti-GG has rallied to support: 0 Number of video game titles by women anti-GG has rallied against: 2 Sound about right? Did I forget anyone? When anti-GG accused us of harassing women; it was just a case of projection. I REALLY hate projection as an argument. It always came off as a childish and simplistic "WHATEVER U SAY BOUNCES OFF OF ME AND STICKS TO U" sort of response. Don't get me wrong, there's some merit in that a liar is more likely to accuse others of lying and a cheater is more likely to accuse others of cheating simply in that these sorts of people are more familiar with the techniques and, because they utilize them often themselves, consider them to be more normal and common, so to a small degree I think it has merit. Small example, once a girl had deduced I liked submissive girls and asked me if she was right, I confirmed it, and simply from that question I deduced she herself was a submissive girl because only a submissive (or dominant) girl would be able to deduce that as she's familiar with the attitude and only a submissive girl would have an interest in knowing my answer. To that degree, I think it has merit. But holy crap this whole GamerGate-SJW issue is challenging my stance on the projection argument. It's staggering the amount of data to suggest they are. So many privileged (financially) white men, so many instances of harassment that continue to occur whereas GGs are...well, when was the last time a GGer was accused of harassment? It's just mind-boggling, and yeah I may follow up this whole event when it's all said and done by finding a psychologist and asking them what merit projection actually has. I....I agree with Milo? Before i know it, maybe Glen Beck sounds a reasonable man by how this is going. Off-topic a tad but.... I've heard of Milo's reputation but know little about the guy beyond his interest in GamerGate. What exactly are his radical stances that would make you compare him to Glenn Beck? If I'm to be blunt, Glenn is literally a bat**** crazy conspiracy theorist. Edited November 27, 2014 by Longknife "The Courier was the worst of all of them. The worst by far. When he died the first time, he must have met the devil, and then killed him." Is your mom hot? It may explain why guys were following her ?
Ganrich Posted November 27, 2014 Posted November 27, 2014 Yeah, I think this is the best article Milo has written. It was a very gripping piece. I really devoured it lol. I don't agree with everything he says/does but I am glad he is on our side, and I agree with this article for sure.
Blarghagh Posted November 27, 2014 Posted November 27, 2014 I don't think Anita deserved to have such attention.
Orogun01 Posted November 27, 2014 Posted November 27, 2014 Well this was nice Anyone knows where to send it to? I'd say the answer to that question is kind of like the answer to "who's the sucker in this poker game?"* *If you can't tell, it's you.
Blarghagh Posted November 27, 2014 Posted November 27, 2014 I don't think it's productive for Obs to comment on it. The climate is too unforgiving.
kirottu Posted November 27, 2014 Posted November 27, 2014 Anyone knows where to send it to? Guildmaster? Also, third FTC update. 1 This post is not to be enjoyed, discussed, or referenced on company time.
Meshugger Posted November 27, 2014 Posted November 27, 2014 I don't think Anita deserved to have such attention. Longknife: He's expert at trolling people, and generally an ****. But his articles are well written. Orogun01: ?? 1 "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy
HoonDing Posted November 27, 2014 Posted November 27, 2014 Well this was nice Anyone knows where to send it to? Talk about a Trojan horse. The ending of the words is ALMSIVI.
Meshugger Posted November 27, 2014 Posted November 27, 2014 Anyone knows where to send it to? Guildmaster? Also, third FTC update. YYEEEEESSS "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy
PK htiw klaw eriF Posted November 27, 2014 Posted November 27, 2014 (edited) Anyone knows where to send it to? Guildmaster? Also, third FTC update. Anyways:https://archive.today/UGjPE Nintendo is dying because their games are very successful and they don't release on IPad. Edited November 27, 2014 by KaineParker "Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic "you're a damned filthy lying robot and you deserve to die and burn in hell." - Bartimaeus "Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander "Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador "You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort "thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex "Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock "Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco "we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii "I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing "feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth "Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi "Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor "I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine "I love cheese despite the pain and carnage." - ShadySands
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