Scottish Independence?

[IndiraLightfoot]

How about some scientific anthropology?

 

The scientists found that the descendants of Britain's oldest skeleton, Cheddar Man (9,000 years old), actually lived in the same area as the bones were found. Stuff like that makes me dizzy - 300 generations!

 

http://family-tree.co.uk/2013/06/cheddar-man-descendants-reunited/

[Monte Carlo]

Cheddar man was pwned by his Italian forebear, Parmesan dude.

[HoonDing]

[JadedWolf]

Looks like the "no" camp is in a comfortable lead. I guess come tomorrow, no Scot will ever allowed to complain about the English again.

 

After all, it's settled. They secretly love them.

[Monte Carlo]

Actually, Jaded, the fun and games are just beginning if they vote 'no.'

[Meshugger]

You guys are like that stereotypical passionate couple. Throwing stuff at each other, yelling, jealous of potential affairs, threathening to leave forever...only to look each other in a short moment of silence and then have the most sensual make-up sex afterwards.

 

Sadly, one is hairy old drunkard wearing questionable clothing (kilt) and the other is a gentleman, sexually repressed to persversion, with an unhealthy interest in Football. You just can't make any sexy imagery from that

[Monte Carlo]

Not this time. The lid of Pandora's box has been blown off with Semtex. The Jocks will get ludicrously generous terms to stay in, home rule funded with English money.

 

And Scots MPs will still vote on English matters but not vice versa.

 

This anomaly has had it's day, and the Scottish conduct of the referendum, predicated on anti-English bile, has soured the Union. So the fun and games begin - the main political parties have totally changed the constitutional settlement in these islands without reference to Parliament. It's a disgrace.

 

Imagine if Texas wanted to secede from the United States. In order to keep it inside, the President offers it unprecedented Federal funding and multiple exemptions from Federal law. And he doesn't ask Congress.

 

This is what is happening in the UK right now.

[Gromnir]

Not this time. The lid of Pandora's box has been blown off with Semtex. The Jocks will get ludicrously generous terms to stay in, home rule funded with English money.

 

And Scots MPs will still vote on English matters but not vice versa.

 

This anomaly has had it's day, and the Scottish conduct of the referendum, predicated on anti-English bile, has soured the Union. So the fun and games begin - the main political parties have totally changed the constitutional settlement in these islands without reference to Parliament. It's a disgrace.

 

Imagine if Texas wanted to secede from the United States. In order to keep it inside, the President offers it unprecedented Federal funding and multiple exemptions from Federal law. And he doesn't ask Congress.

 

This is what is happening in the UK right now.

simple solution for US and Texas example:

 

somebody points out that Texas being a separate country would endanger the ncaa status of numerous college football teams, particularly UT and Texas A&M. any popular backing for Texas secession would immediately evaporate to negligible levels.

 

HA! Good Fun!

[ManifestedISO]

Parmesan paisan ... I spit up my froo-froo hard cider laughing. 

 

Yeah, there is no way the flag of the UK is going to run Scottish blue. I have one, you know. A big ol' standard size flag of Scotland, since my pasty ancestry is from there. And because the Irish are irritating. The brogue is much more appealing, too. 

[Kroney]

God, that's all we need, colonials several generations distant banging on about kinship with countries they know next to nothing about.

[ManifestedISO]

Calciferous presumptive Englishman, should have known. I'll 'bang on' how your mum likes it next time. 

[BruceVC]

Its basically a foregone conclusion that Scotland will stay part of the UK, I'm very happy and relieved   :dancing:  

 

Despite jokes from some of our UK members I thought if Scotland had left this would have fundamentally weakened the entire UK and Scotland in the long term. And that's not a good thing for the West, "united we stand ..divided we fall

 

Anyway good news, I'm going to buy some Haggis for lunch as a way to  recognise this whole event

[Malcador]

Uh, the West is divided already, somehow I don't think one more nation added into the pile is going to make the vile East or whomever attain dominance. Was kind of hoping the Scots would separate, myself, but probably works out better this way.

[PK htiw klaw eriF]

God, that's all we need, colonials several generations distant banging on about kinship with countries they know next to nothing about.

Drink your tea and get bombed by the krauts, you gutless pansy.

[BruceVC]

Uh, the West is divided already, somehow I don't think one more nation added into the pile is going to make the vile East or whomever attain dominance. Was kind of hoping the Scots would separate, myself, but probably works out better this way.

 

The issue being if Scotland had really  gone independent then  I see Wales and Northern Ireland were discussing this as well  and then suddenly you have England by itself. Of course this would have been unlikely but its more the "lets go independent" sentiment that concerns me

 

And the West isn't really  divided on key issues, like Russia's interference in Ukraine. Its just typically the same  countries that are prepared to send troops to most conflict areas. And these countries are normally the USA, UK and France

[Malcador]

They are as divided as an independent Scotland and Great Britain would be though. So divided we fall isn't much relevance here. Unless Scotland is going to not be an ally to the UK and EU and US for some reason.

Edited September 19, 2014 by Malcador

[BruceVC]

They are as divided as an independent Scotland and Great Britain would be though. So divided we fall isn't much relevance here. Unless Scotland is going to not be an ally to the UK and EU and US for some reason.

 

Well that is the concern actually, there are many people in Scotland who question the military involvement of the UK in various areas. So it would have been highly unlikely an independent Scotland would have been involved in any UK military missions. And obviously this would have weakened the overall UK military mission going forward

[Malcador]

The West doesn't 100% jump into military matters either, so it's not a concern.

[BruceVC]

I am watching the results on Sky and its official, Scotland will stay part of the UK. I have to be honest seeing some of  the No voters in tears due to the  relief creates an emotional experience. You can't help but feel really happy for them  

[Namutree]

I called it:

 

Nostradamus: 0

Me: 2

[BruceVC]

I called it:

 

Nostradamus: 0

Me: 2

 

You did call it,  you little prognosticator you 

[Namutree]

 

I called it:

 

Nostradamus: 0

Me: 2

 

You did call it,  you little prognosticator you 

 

I'm getting a second milkshake too.

[IndiraLightfoot]

Watching the news and crowds of aye-sayers, it's apparent that they're pretty happy anyways. Perhaps this was all for the best. Who wants to wreck the Union Jack, the icon of icons?

[Gromnir]

so, scotland still gets all those wonderful parting gifts cameron promised just 'cause they played the Secession Game, yes? 

 

HA! Good Fun!

[PK htiw klaw eriF]

Watching the news and crowds of aye-sayers, it's apparent that they're pretty happy anyways. Perhaps this was all for the best. Who wants to wreck the Union Jack, the icon of icons?

I can think of someone.

 

http://youtu.be/yu2NqfISm9k

 

Classic.