Walsingham Posted October 20, 2013 Posted October 20, 2013 I'd certainly care to hear the cops case against writing up use of a taser. Bab's point is quite interesting. "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp.
NOK222 Posted October 20, 2013 Posted October 20, 2013 I'd certainly care to hear the cops case against writing up use of a taser. Bab's point is quite interesting. The woman's belly clearly endangered the life of the officer. How was he gonna come home to his family that night if a pregnant woman was acting all confrontational? Besides, his superiors found that the use of force was warranted. Pregnant women think they can get a pass, she could be hiding many molotov ****tails under that shirt. Remember in the God Blessed U.S. of A, officer safety trumps all. And we, as citizens, don't find any fault in that, thank God. Don't listen to ****ing libtards. 1 Ka-ka-ka-ka-Cocaine!
Gromnir Posted October 21, 2013 Posted October 21, 2013 all police departments we know of is requiring reports for taser use. the thing is, it has been shown that taser availability, being non-lethal in all but freak accidents, does result in police willingness to use force more readily. 'stead o' finding a diplomatic solution, some cops (a very small number, but still a noteworthy number) will use taser as an attitude-correction method. brings up an aside. Gromnir is a minority, and where we grew up, there is an antagonistic relationship 'tween native americans and cops. our people frequent complain that they gets treated poorly by cops. "cops are racist." we also worked probation for a few years and was in USDOJ for a number o' years. very few cops we know is racist. even the cops we thought might be racist tried to treat minorities "fair." it can be shown statistically that black cops don't treat black citizens better than white cops, and native american cops dont treat "rez slugs" (native americans) better than white cops. the thing is, cops got a different definition o' "fair" then does average citizen. the quickest way to escalate a confrontation with cops is to fail the attitude test. am thinking this is why minorities is more likely to get arrested and suffer indignities at the hands o' police than white folks. if you is polite, meek, and/or humble with cops, they tends to return respect. conversely, if you fail a cop's attitude test, regardless o' race, you is in for a rough time. is much harder for minorities to show cops humility or deference as it is seen as being a "punk." ... is no "attitude test" on the books in any jurisdiction. is real nevertheless. ideally we would like for cops to be able to complete divorce themselves from the emotional side of a confrontation, but that ain't realistic and it ain't even reasonable. SOME minorities in this country frequent feel as if they has been pushed around too much, so when confronted by cops they ain't willing to back up even a little. this is why asian criminals fare so much better than does black or native americans. perhaps it is a cultural thing, but asians, as a whole, is far less antagonistic in the presence o' authority. the United States has a very diverse population. is loads o' benefits that come with diversity. unfortunately, diverse populations also tend to have more conflicts 'tween private citizens and the police force, and surprisingly, a more diverse police force doesn't help as much as one might s'pose. HA! Good Fun! 6 "If there be time to expose through discussion the falsehood and fallacies, to avert the evil by the processes of education, the remedy to be applied is more speech, not enforced silence."Justice Louis Brandeis, Concurring, Whitney v. California, 274 U.S. 357 (1927) "Im indifferent to almost any murder as long as it doesn't affect me or mine."--Gfted1 (September 30, 2019)
obyknven Posted October 27, 2013 Author Posted October 27, 2013 Ukrainian pro-Western propaganda Evil Ukrainian police vs Holy European police Europeans must be so happy!
Walsingham Posted October 27, 2013 Posted October 27, 2013 all police departments we know of is requiring reports for taser use. the thing is, it has been shown that taser availability, being non-lethal in all but freak accidents, does result in police willingness to use force more readily. 'stead o' finding a diplomatic solution, some cops (a very small number, but still a noteworthy number) will use taser as an attitude-correction method. brings up an aside. Gromnir is a minority, and where we grew up, there is an antagonistic relationship 'tween native americans and cops. our people frequent complain that they gets treated poorly by cops. "cops are racist." we also worked probation for a few years and was in USDOJ for a number o' years. very few cops we know is racist. even the cops we thought might be racist tried to treat minorities "fair." it can be shown statistically that black cops don't treat black citizens better than white cops, and native american cops dont treat "rez slugs" (native americans) better than white cops. the thing is, cops got a different definition o' "fair" then does average citizen. the quickest way to escalate a confrontation with cops is to fail the attitude test. am thinking this is why minorities is more likely to get arrested and suffer indignities at the hands o' police than white folks. if you is polite, meek, and/or humble with cops, they tends to return respect. conversely, if you fail a cop's attitude test, regardless o' race, you is in for a rough time. is much harder for minorities to show cops humility or deference as it is seen as being a "punk." ... is no "attitude test" on the books in any jurisdiction. is real nevertheless. ideally we would like for cops to be able to complete divorce themselves from the emotional side of a confrontation, but that ain't realistic and it ain't even reasonable. SOME minorities in this country frequent feel as if they has been pushed around too much, so when confronted by cops they ain't willing to back up even a little. this is why asian criminals fare so much better than does black or native americans. perhaps it is a cultural thing, but asians, as a whole, is far less antagonistic in the presence o' authority. the United States has a very diverse population. is loads o' benefits that come with diversity. unfortunately, diverse populations also tend to have more conflicts 'tween private citizens and the police force, and surprisingly, a more diverse police force doesn't help as much as one might s'pose. HA! Good Fun! My brother and I are (obviously) identical ethnicities and class. (I'm quite noticeably broader across the shoulders and chest) We both get stopped by cops, but our treatment is massively different. This is what Gromnir (I think) is calling the attitude 'test'. To my brother cops are evil fascist morons, and they seem to act up to this expectation. To me cops are a particularly obscure ethnic group who are obliged by code to try and help people, but don't quite understand why or when. I've never had any significant trouble with cops. 1 "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp.
Orogun01 Posted October 27, 2013 Posted October 27, 2013 I did and that attitude thing didn't do anything, lucky for me that every **** cop seems to be paired with the nicest one on the precinct. I'd say the answer to that question is kind of like the answer to "who's the sucker in this poker game?"* *If you can't tell, it's you.
cleric Nemir Posted November 12, 2013 Posted November 12, 2013 ACAB. No exceptions. Lawful evil banite The Morality troll from the god of Prejudice
NOK222 Posted November 14, 2013 Posted November 14, 2013 After examining, I think the RCMP are top contenders. Ka-ka-ka-ka-Cocaine!
Malcador Posted November 14, 2013 Posted November 14, 2013 Just as long as they're not trying to handle a dude with a stapler. Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
Calax Posted November 14, 2013 Posted November 14, 2013 Just as long as they're not trying to handle a dude with a stapler. ...http://amestrib.com/sections/news/ames-and-story-county/time-needed-healing-after-police-shooting.html http://amestrib.com/sections/news/ames-and-story-county/suspect-police-chase-shooting-dead.html http://amestrib.com/sections/news/ames-and-story-county/autopsy-shows-chase-suspect-was-shot-twice.html Was on my campus. Victor of the 5 year fan fic competition! Kevin Butler will awesome your face off.
Orogun01 Posted November 14, 2013 Posted November 14, 2013 Just as long as they're not trying to handle a dude with a stapler. ...http://amestrib.com/sections/news/ames-and-story-county/time-needed-healing-after-police-shooting.html http://amestrib.com/sections/news/ames-and-story-county/suspect-police-chase-shooting-dead.html http://amestrib.com/sections/news/ames-and-story-county/autopsy-shows-chase-suspect-was-shot-twice.html Was on my campus. I heard about that a while back, definitively makes one think twice before calling the cops. I'd say the answer to that question is kind of like the answer to "who's the sucker in this poker game?"* *If you can't tell, it's you.
ShadySands Posted November 20, 2013 Posted November 20, 2013 (edited) Police officer goes above and beyond to rescue dog Baltimore police officer got a call about a ‘vicious’ pit bull and this is what happened next Edited November 20, 2013 by ShadySands 4 Free games updated 3/4/21
Malcador Posted November 20, 2013 Posted November 20, 2013 They need to send some NYPD down to fight the cartels in Mexico, heh. Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
Walsingham Posted November 20, 2013 Posted November 20, 2013 They need to send some NYPD down to fight the cartels in Mexico, heh. Not sure where the humour is on this one. "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp.
NOK222 Posted November 20, 2013 Posted November 20, 2013 Police officer goes above and beyond to rescue dog Baltimore police officer got a call about a ‘vicious’ pit bull and this is what happened next There are villains on both sides. Ka-ka-ka-ka-Cocaine!
Orogun01 Posted November 21, 2013 Posted November 21, 2013 They need to send some NYPD down to fight the cartels in Mexico, heh. Not sure where the humour is on this one. I think he is just abashed with glee at the thought of bully policemen having to deal with vicious criminals that will fire at them. 1 I'd say the answer to that question is kind of like the answer to "who's the sucker in this poker game?"* *If you can't tell, it's you.
Walsingham Posted November 21, 2013 Posted November 21, 2013 They need to send some NYPD down to fight the cartels in Mexico, heh. Not sure where the humour is on this one. I think he is just abashed with glee at the thought of bully policemen having to deal with vicious criminals that will fire at them. And people wonder why some cops 'hate' civilians? "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp.
Malcador Posted November 21, 2013 Posted November 21, 2013 People wonder at that ? Usually it's either this inflated and fragile sense of self where any criticism is instantly some bleeding heart type or they're just the jock types in school that have power. that think so. Cops are civilians as well, though I guess some of them also forget that. But for them fighting cartels, well If they think they are hard (see the video or the vast other crap the NYPD pulls), why not do the world some good by fighting the worst? Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
Walsingham Posted November 21, 2013 Posted November 21, 2013 I used to work with a guy who got stopped and searched by the cops so much that they gave him a job coming in and talking to new coppers about the problem. He said that cops are 'blueskins'. They aggravation and threats. They lose friends. They have a crap time, pretty much. And this is a guy who used to hate cops. All because people just see a uniform. The same way some cops just saw him as a n*****. He said that cop hating and racism was all part of the same tangle of bull****. "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp.
Hurlshort Posted November 21, 2013 Posted November 21, 2013 It shouldn't surprise anyone that a culture of hating authority figures simply widens the gap between the cultural group and said authorities. It takes work on both sides to create a respectful relationship.
Orogun01 Posted November 21, 2013 Posted November 21, 2013 People wonder at that ? Usually it's either this inflated and fragile sense of self where any criticism is instantly some bleeding heart type or they're just the jock types in school that have power. that think so. Cops are civilians as well, though I guess some of them also forget that. But for them fighting cartels, well If they think they are hard (see the video or the vast other crap the NYPD pulls), why not do the world some good by fighting the worst? You should read up on the Zimbardo experiment. People often respond to the roles they're assigned to, often to an extreme degree even disregarding past history. 1 I'd say the answer to that question is kind of like the answer to "who's the sucker in this poker game?"* *If you can't tell, it's you.
melkathi Posted November 21, 2013 Posted November 21, 2013 I voted for the NZ police as well. Even if only because of their 2011 recruitment drive: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10698256 http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10705711 Unobtrusively informing you about my new ebook (which you should feel free to read and shower with praise).
Malcador Posted November 22, 2013 Posted November 22, 2013 http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/11/21/3769823/in-miami-gardens-store-video-catches.html Earl Sampson has been stopped and questioned by Miami Gardens police 258 times in four years. He’s been searched more than 100 times. And arrested and jailed 56 times. Despite his long rap sheet, Sampson, 28, has never been convicted of anything more serious than possession of marijuana. Miami Gardens police have arrested Sampson 62 times for one offense: trespassing. Almost every citation was issued at the same place: the 207 Quickstop, a convenience store on 207th Street in Miami Gardens. But Sampson isn’t loitering. He works as a clerk at the Quickstop. Flori-duh again. Store owner probably should not have opted in for that zero -tolerance program, though he can't opt out now it seem 1 Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
NOK222 Posted November 22, 2013 Posted November 22, 2013 I almost want to move to one of the nations in the commonwealth. Almost. I'll be Wal's neighbor. Ka-ka-ka-ka-Cocaine!
Walsingham Posted November 22, 2013 Posted November 22, 2013 I almost want to move to one of the nations in the commonwealth. Almost. I'll be Wal's neighbor. You better be cool, man. My neighbours are always cool. "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp.
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