Gfted1 Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Sweetheart of a settlement for him. Hell, you could lock me up for a year for 4 million! "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amentep Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Sweetheart of a settlement for him. Hell, you could lock me up for a year for 4 million! Well, they didn't just lock him up for 5 days, they also forgot to feed him or give him any water. Which would be tough for a year to, you know...live through. 1 I cannot - yet I must. How do you calculate that? At what point on the graph do "must" and "cannot" meet? Yet I must - but I cannot! ~ Ro-Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanschu Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 He would have been quite dehydrated after that too. I assume he tried knocking, but yeah I can't imagine the experience was all that pleasant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadySands Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 (edited) Sweetheart of a settlement for him. Hell, you could lock me up for a year for 4 million! It is a nice chunk of money but they very nearly killed him No food and water and handcuffed until he lost enough weight to slip out of them EDIT: Amentep beat me to it Edited July 31, 2013 by ShadySands Free games updated 3/4/21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volourn Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 They didn't forget him. They were torturing him. L0L DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadySands Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Wasn't sure where to put this so Stop and Frisk Practice Violated Rights, Judge Rules Free games updated 3/4/21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gfted1 Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 I couldn't find a place for this either so I just join in on the derailing: Holder seeks to avert mandatory minimum sentences for some low-level drug offenders. 1 "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurlshort Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 This is different: http://news.yahoo.com/cops-dealing-doritos-post-legalization-hempfest-070354736.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadySands Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 The problem that we are having with legalization here in CO isn't the cops who are more or less for it but with some of the local politicians who are trying to delay or derail any regulations. Besides from what I've seen the cops never bothered most of the time before it was legal Free games updated 3/4/21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walsingham Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 The cops have to be pleased. No more pretending to care about dope. The dealers are going to be pissed off. Big chunk of regular change leaving the shadow economy. Although ...doritos? Ew. 1 "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calax Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 The cops have to be pleased. No more pretending to care about dope. The dealers are going to be pissed off. Big chunk of regular change leaving the shadow economy. Although ...doritos? Ew. In america it's the type of food that's only eaten when high... like Frosted flakes. Victor of the 5 year fan fic competition! Kevin Butler will awesome your face off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanschu Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Latest police drama here. Teen with a knife on a streetcar gets shot up. Funny that they tase him after firing 3 rounds, then waiting a bit for 6 more. He's now charged with second degree murder. http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/08/19/toronto-police-officer-charged-with-second-degree-murder-in-streetcar-shooting-death-of-sammy-yatim/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadySands Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 (edited) EDIT:okay that didn't work http://www.dallasnews.com/news/local-news/20131017-video-shows-dallas-officer-shooting-man-standing-with-arms-at-his-side.ece Edited October 20, 2013 by ShadySands Free games updated 3/4/21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walsingham Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 I'm not watching some fellah die, first thing on a Sunday. Not if I can help it. All I'll say is that simply shooting someone doesn't necessarily stop them dead <sic>. And that we (in the UK) had a completely random and innocent girl stabbed to death on a bus just the other week. "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadySands Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 I believe they said the man that was shot is expected to live Free games updated 3/4/21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walsingham Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 What genuinely boggles me is the relentless examination of police behaviour, demanding they do _zero_ harm, when I perceive their purpose as the reduction of harm done by normal citizens. I don't mean to excuse abuses of power. But it's just irrational to expect the police to do their job without hurting anybody. At least it seems that way to me. 2 "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcador Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 He's now charged with second degree murder. http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/08/19/toronto-police-officer-charged-with-second-degree-murder-in-streetcar-shooting-death-of-sammy-yatim/ Also, he hit the guy with 8 out of 9, so that's at least decent marksmanship. Amazed he got charged at all, I suppose the SIU needs to make a show, though. Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orogun01 Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 What genuinely boggles me is the relentless examination of police behaviour, demanding they do _zero_ harm, when I perceive their purpose as the reduction of harm done by normal citizens. I don't mean to excuse abuses of power. But it's just irrational to expect the police to do their job without hurting anybody. At least it seems that way to me. I don't think anyone expects the police to do their job without harming anybody, but unless this is 2000 AD and they are judge, jury and executioner their main priority should be to make an arrest and uses of deadly force should be used with extreme prejudice. IIRC that's the law on most states and most of the cases presented here show little to no prejudice. The other thing is that the officers lied on their report about the circumstances leading up to the shooting saying that the victim "charged at him and his partner with a knife". I can only wonder at how many justified shootings by police officers are actually justified. 1 I'd say the answer to that question is kind of like the answer to "who's the sucker in this poker game?"* *If you can't tell, it's you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadySands Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 (edited) a few bad apples spoils the bunch They have much more power over the lives of others than a normal citizen, including life and death. I don't take issue if something bad inadvertently happens but when something such as this happens I do take issue. I think it's important to hold police to a higher standard as they have been given power and responsibility that I believe warrants such scrutiny. In this case you can see the officers pull up and get out of their car walk over and shoot the guy standing in the middle of the street. All happens in just a few seconds. The police said that the man charged them with a knife but you can clearly see that he is standing in place with his arms at his side. Edited October 20, 2013 by ShadySands Free games updated 3/4/21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walsingham Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 Acknowledging what I thin kis a relaxed debate, I still have to say that I think you've missed the point. In high stress situations you have to set simple rules. I would assert that in this case the police have used a well-established rule: protect the public. If an individual threatens deadly force, then their safety comes a distant second to that of anyone else. Thoughts? "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
licketysplit Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 (edited) Latest police drama here. Teen with a knife on a streetcar gets shot up. Funny that they tase him after firing 3 rounds, then waiting a bit for 6 more. He's now charged with second degree murder. http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/08/19/toronto-police-officer-charged-with-second-degree-murder-in-streetcar-shooting-death-of-sammy-yatim/ Abuse of power? Maybe. But then pulling his **** out and wielding a knife on a bus may have complicated things a bit. Edited October 20, 2013 by licketysplit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromnir Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 am not sure how it works other places, but we don't have a National Police Force here in the US. compare USA police to other nations is thus... stoopid. regardless, am gonna note that any Genuine russian we know either not wanna talk 'bout police or admits that they is typical scared of police. is kinda like worst stereotypes o' chicago cops during prohibition, but real... and if al capone were an "elected" official. HA! Good Fun! "If there be time to expose through discussion the falsehood and fallacies, to avert the evil by the processes of education, the remedy to be applied is more speech, not enforced silence."Justice Louis Brandeis, Concurring, Whitney v. California, 274 U.S. 357 (1927) "Im indifferent to almost any murder as long as it doesn't affect me or mine."--Gfted1 (September 30, 2019) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadySands Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 In general, yes In most of these examples there seems to be an unreasonable escalation of force and at some point firing a weapon near people may be more dangerous to the public than the person they are trying to stop. In this case there were 3 stray bullets which luckily didn't hit anyone but it's not like there was a shoot out or a struggle or even any immediate threat. They just walked up and shot the guy then lied about it I don't know if it was just indifference, laziness, blood lust or something else entirely Free games updated 3/4/21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcador Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 What is funny is how relaxed everyone else is with this madman on the streetcar. Lucky there was a video. Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babaganoosh13 Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 As far as I'm concerned, police should have to write up a full report every time they use a taser, like they would if they used a gun. It should only be used in similar circumstances when it doesn't put the officers life in danger using it over the gun (i.e. bringing it to a knife fight. The lightest scenario for using it should be if someone has clearly taking something they shouldn't have, is acting VERY violent and the nightstick would be almost useless.) Too many police have abused it IMO. This was a minor accident. A 2 or 3 on a scale of 10, and the police elevated it to a 9. You see, ever since the whole Doritos Locos Tacos thing, Taco Bell thinks they can do whatever they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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