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Tired of the cliched set of Arcane Elements?

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Poll: Arent you tired of the cliche Arcane Elements? (59 member(s) have cast votes)

Are you tired of the cliched offensive arcane elements like fire, ice and lightning?

  1. Yes (26 votes [44.07%])

    Percentage of vote: 44.07%

  2. No (33 votes [55.93%])

    Percentage of vote: 55.93%

If yes, would you like something more exotic like:

  1. Telekinetics (Ex: Shockwaves, Implosions, Attraction/Repulsion) (32 votes [24.62%])

    Percentage of vote: 24.62%

  2. Dimensional Manipulation (Ex: Stay mobile through or hide inside pocket dimensions) (20 votes [15.38%])

    Percentage of vote: 15.38%

  3. Control Matter (Ex: Radiation fields, particle beams, structural disruption) (28 votes [21.54%])

    Percentage of vote: 21.54%

  4. Metamorph (Ex: Grow lethal appendages, armor skin, spit digestive enzymes/poison/acid) (30 votes [23.08%])

    Percentage of vote: 23.08%

  5. Other (Post own ideas in comments) (20 votes [15.38%])

    Percentage of vote: 15.38%

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    (1) Prestidigitator

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Which then begs the question - why not simply command the heart to tear itself from the chest? Or head to tear itself from the shoulders?

Why not animate all the body parts from a recent battlefield into a giant flesh golem? Or assorted tins, pans and pot into a walking metal monster?



Take for example the "you can't see the heart". Fine. But I can see the head. So why not rip the head off insted of the arm? So as you can see, you have to pay attention to explanations and the workings of magic.


He is talking about the gameplay of the spell, and you are only thinking the mechanics of the spell.

Yes, it is a very unbalanced spell. Even without ripping hearts or heads, ripping someone's hand can make him die or suffer terribly. In reality, if you rip someone's hand, it will cause huge pain that can faint the person. Even then, his wrist will start to bleed, and it can kill the person quickly.

The spell tries to combine these two issues with "6d6" but of course it is not enough. Even worse, the hand becomes as powerful as a Wight and start attacking the person.

And this is a level 4 spell.

Inbalanced, indeed.


But forget the power, forget the mechanics, he is trying to explain that he wants more than "fireball, lightning bolt, icebolt, firewall" type of spells, more alternative style magics.


Of course, I am happy with spamming fire spells :p

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Cyphers will bring mind control with them....and will probably be the only class I ever play. Still I am fairly certain Obsidian will go well outside of the realm of everything that's been done before with this game....at least with the story. There are no greater storytellers out there than Obsidian(except maybe inXile) so when they say they want to keep the story completely under wraps until the game ships you know it's going to be mind blowing.

Psshhhhh, inXile. Pssshhhh. They don't have MCA. Besides, elements and magic are more in the realm of the gameplay mechanics/design, it's true that the writers will have input on that area, but it's still up to the higher level game designers to actually determine the mechanics and what ultimately comes out of their ideas on magic or elements. It's being helmed by Sawyer so I don't see any problems in that realm of design. Avellone, so far as I know, is just working on writing. So far as I know.

Also, I needed to say this: OP, the idea of real-world chemical elements in a fantasy magic game about souls is just absurd. Absolutely ludicrous. Absoludicrous (© Seanbaby.) There's no "magic" in physics and cosmology unless you're using figurative speech about a personal interest and fascination.


Actually they do....that's what makes Cyphers unique....didn't you read the updates when the stretch goal adding the cyphers was made? Mind control or at least heavy mind influence is their thing.


Ciphers have nothing to do with the absurdity of having real-world modern chemistry and physics in a fantasy world of magic and souls. What are you even talking about?

 Chemistry? Physics? Real world......have you even READ anything I said? I was talking about MIND CONTROL(MCA)......WHY are you talking to me about something I never mentioned. The quote of my original comment is in your post.....READ it, that'll tell you what I'm talking about.



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Just let me have high tiered time bending spells and I will be happy: slow time bubble ala diablo was really nice, time stop, haste, chain contingency are all great. But for inspiration Mage: The awakening is a nice place.



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solid liquid gas plasma?

And initiates know a secret one, Bose-Einsteinium condensate, also known as filament. (frost damage!)

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