Monte Carlo Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Bwahahahha. Magic crossbows that are repeaters? Check. Uber-fast bows that do humungous damage? Check. Slings of awesomeness? Check. A throwing axe with a neat boomerang feature? Check. So, we've opened Pandora's Box and we have crude firearms... so my question is how magical should / could they be? Could there be an omni-barrelled Holy Avenging musket? Or is this the Road to Hell? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cultist Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Ratling gun! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hormalakh Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 (edited) That looks like a cartoon image you'd see where the guy is smoking a whole bunch of cigarettes at the same time. Ridiculous. Edited October 30, 2012 by Hormalakh My blog is where I'm keeping a record of all of my suggestions and bug mentions. http://hormalakh.blogspot.com/ UPDATED 9/26/2014 My DXdiag: http://hormalakh.blogspot.com/2014/08/beta-begins-v257.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monte Carlo Posted October 30, 2012 Author Share Posted October 30, 2012 You know this one makes sense! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jivex5k Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 As long as we have weapons that don't reload but instead explode and magically reappear in your hands after you throw it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hormalakh Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 (edited) I loved how Arcanum kept magic and tech completely and absolutely separate. Just like this game isn't going to have huge ridiculous Final-fantasy swords and the like, I doubt there will be cigratte-bunched guns. It would make more sense to have a magically endued metal that the gun is made of, so it's less likely to misfire. Or maybe the gunpowder is more potent (magically) allowing longer ranges for these guns. Maybe the guns increase damage slightly. Something fairly subdued, just like their swords and other melee weapons. Envenomed arquebus. Gun has a poison spell on it that makes bullets poisonous as they hit creatures. that sort of thing. Inscribed with dwarven runes making the gun unbreakable, etc. Elven guns with a faster firing time. Edited October 30, 2012 by Hormalakh 1 My blog is where I'm keeping a record of all of my suggestions and bug mentions. http://hormalakh.blogspot.com/ UPDATED 9/26/2014 My DXdiag: http://hormalakh.blogspot.com/2014/08/beta-begins-v257.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heresiarch Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Like a musket you can shoot without reloading, while draining your own health? That reminds me of something... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elerond Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 (edited) I think this depends how über other magic weapons in the game are. So in my opinion magic should improve muskets and other gunpowder weapons with same amount as it improves other weapons. Edited October 30, 2012 by Elerond Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monte Carlo Posted October 30, 2012 Author Share Posted October 30, 2012 Note how this chap is toting a fantasy bazooka. I'd like one too, please. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFSOCC Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 is that the vorpal panzerfaust? I don't see why high-tech weapons couldn't be enchanted. If I could enchant a gun it'd be so it would never need more ammo. permanent summon bullets spell. 2 Remember: Argue the point, not the person. Remain polite and constructive. Friendly forums have friendly debate. There's no shame in being wrong. If you don't have something to add, don't post for the sake of it. And don't be afraid to post thoughts you are uncertain about, that's what discussion is for.---Pet threads, everyone has them. I love imagining Gods, Monsters, Factions and Weapons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monte Carlo Posted October 30, 2012 Author Share Posted October 30, 2012 It looks more like a Vorpal Panzerschrek, but I'm being picky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyrock Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 (edited) I loved how Arcanum kept magic and tech completely and absolutely separate. Along those lines, instead of superior firearms being 'magical', I'd rather they were simply technologically advanced. Made by a gunsmith with a superior alloy or with superior craftsmanship or a superior design. In practice it would still be amount to "Musket +1" or whatever, it would be purely a semantic difference. Edit: Also, relevant: Edited October 30, 2012 by Keyrock 8 RFK Jr 2024 "Any organization created out of fear must create fear to survive." - Bill Hicks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kabaliero Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 i dunno, i don't like the idea of guns i like crossbows better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aldereth Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Magic and guns together... I guess that would be like implementing the arsenal from Borderland. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsuga C Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 It might be nice to use magic to permanently illuminate the sites on a wheel lock for a small bonus "to hit". These days we use batteries or tritium, but magic would fit the bill quite well in P:E. http://cbrrescue.org/ Go afield with a good attitude, with respect for the wildlife you hunt and for the forests and fields in which you walk. Immerse yourself in the outdoors experience. It will cleanse your soul and make you a better person.----Fred Bear http://michigansaf.org/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nonek Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Or a living eye mounted upon the musket that sees the hearts of its enemies, Xachariah style? 1 Quite an experience to live in misery isn't it? That's what it is to be married with children.I've seen things you people can't even imagine. Pearly Kings glittering on the Elephant and Castle, Morris Men dancing 'til the last light of midsummer. I watched Druid fires burning in the ruins of Stonehenge, and Yorkshiremen gurning for prizes. All these things will be lost in time, like alopecia on a skinhead. Time for tiffin. Tea for the teapot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsuga C Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Or a living eye mounted upon the musket that sees the hearts of its enemies, Xachariah style? I'm not familiar with the reference, but that would be suitably bizarre. I can't imagine that the eye would appreciate the heat, embers, and smoke of blackpowder belching out the muzzle beneath it, though. Poor eye... http://cbrrescue.org/ Go afield with a good attitude, with respect for the wildlife you hunt and for the forests and fields in which you walk. Immerse yourself in the outdoors experience. It will cleanse your soul and make you a better person.----Fred Bear http://michigansaf.org/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nonek Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 It's Torment, a blind archer who saw the hearts of his foes, impossibly cool. 2 Quite an experience to live in misery isn't it? That's what it is to be married with children.I've seen things you people can't even imagine. Pearly Kings glittering on the Elephant and Castle, Morris Men dancing 'til the last light of midsummer. I watched Druid fires burning in the ruins of Stonehenge, and Yorkshiremen gurning for prizes. All these things will be lost in time, like alopecia on a skinhead. Time for tiffin. Tea for the teapot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SophosTheWise Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Since Obsidian said PE would be around a 16th century technology level I'd love to see historical muskets and generally everything associated with late medieval ages/early renaissance from those colourful Landsknechts clothes to codpieces :D (Make a special item slot for codpieces by the way!) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsuga C Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 It's Torment, a blind archer who saw the hearts of his foes, impossibly cool. That'd come in handy, especially during archery season for white-tailed deer. The rascals are notoriously crepuscular and, during firearms season, outright nocturnal on public lands. Impossibly cool, indeed! 1 http://cbrrescue.org/ Go afield with a good attitude, with respect for the wildlife you hunt and for the forests and fields in which you walk. Immerse yourself in the outdoors experience. It will cleanse your soul and make you a better person.----Fred Bear http://michigansaf.org/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gfted1 Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 Update 5. Black powder firearms are of the single-shot wheellock variety. Largely considered complex curiosities, these weapons are not employed extensively by military forces. Their long reload times are considered a liability in battles against foes that are too monstrous to drop with a single volley, foes that fly or move at high speed, and foes that have the power of invisibility. Despite this, some individuals do employ firearms for one specific purpose: close range penetration of the arcane veil, a standard magical defense employed by wizards. The arcane veil is powerful, but it does not react well to the high-velocity projectiles generated by arquebuses and handguns. As a result, more wizards who previously relied on the veil and similar abjurations have turned to traditional armor for additional defense. "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunedain Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 I'd really rather there not be firearms in the game, just doesn't go well with medieval games, but oh well.. =) 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilloutman Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 I'd really rather there not be firearms in the game, just doesn't go well with medieval games, but oh well.. =) This I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monte Carlo Posted October 31, 2012 Author Share Posted October 31, 2012 Too late, gun-haters. We have them, and the dilemma now is what to do with them. I'd really rather there not be firearms in the game, just doesn't go well with medieval games LOL. Firearms were medieval. As medieval as chainmail and men wearing tights. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlintlockJazz Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 I'd really rather there not be firearms in the game, just doesn't go well with medieval games, but oh well.. =) You might want to do some research before you spread misconceptions around as valid reasons. Guns are as medieval as full plate, as both were developed and utilised concurrently, which is that they both arose in the late middle ages (mainly around 1400s). 1 "That rabbit's dynamite!" - King Arthur, Monty Python and the Quest for the Holy Grail "Space is big, really big." - Douglas Adams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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