Eraydon Posted October 17, 2012 Posted October 17, 2012 Yes, cheatcodes. I feel like these are one of the ways to enhance the game for the better. I'm sure many of you are familiar with the amazing and hilarious cheatcodes the Baldur's Gate series offered-- which added endless entertainment. Aside from the typical cheat coding gold, potions, weapons, armor, etc... I'm talking about the cheatcodes that you and your friends still laugh about. Like the beserk chickens cheat code. Who didn't, upon discovering this awesome cheat code, cheat in an army of beserk chickens and then go on a rampage? Or the cow spell cheat code? Who didn't, upon discovering this awesome cheatcode, drop a cow on their mighty foe? Or my personal favorite combo of cheatcodes: cheating spells to turn Candlekeep's guards into squirrels and then charming them. Army of squirrels? FTW. That is something I know myself and many of my friends would absolutely LOVE to see in Project Eternity. I feel not only would it enhance the game, but it would help add to that "classic" feel that BG and Zelda (with its beserk chickens) have achieved. 4 "According to some, heroic deaths are admirable things. I've never been convinced by this argument, mainly because, no matter how cool, stylish, composed, unflappable, manly, or defiant you are, at the end of the day you're also dead. Which is a little too permanent for my liking." "A dozen more questions occurred to me. Not to mention twenty-two possible solutions to each one, sixteen resulting hypotheses and counter- theorems, eight abstract speculations, a quadrilateral equations, two axioms, and a limerick. That's raw intelligence for you." -Bartimaeus
GhostofAnakin Posted October 17, 2012 Posted October 17, 2012 Admit it, OP. You just want to be able to turn God-mode on. 9 "Console exclusive is such a harsh word." - Darque"Console exclusive is two words Darque." - Nartwak (in response to Darque's observation)
Krikkert Posted October 17, 2012 Posted October 17, 2012 Yes, cheatcodes. I feel like these are one of the ways to enhance the game for the better. I'm sure many of you are familiar with the amazing and hilarious cheatcodes the Baldur's Gate series offered-- which added endless entertainment. Aside from the typical cheat coding gold, potions, weapons, armor, etc... I'm talking about the cheatcodes that you and your friends still laugh about. Like the beserk chickens cheat code. Who didn't, upon discovering this awesome cheat code, cheat in an army of beserk chickens and then go on a rampage? Or the cow spell cheat code? Who didn't, upon discovering this awesome cheatcode, drop a cow on their mighty foe? Or my personal favorite combo of cheatcodes: cheating spells to turn Candlekeep's guards into squirrels and then charming them. Army of squirrels? FTW. That is something I know myself and many of my friends would absolutely LOVE to see in Project Eternity. I feel not only would it enhance the game, but it would help add to that "classic" feel that BG and Zelda (with its beserk chickens) have achieved. Such childish cheats is a waste of time and has nothing to do with the game. A serious gamer doesn't use cheats to turn people into squirrels and chickens.
Doxy Posted October 17, 2012 Posted October 17, 2012 Cheats should not be implemented for RPGs period. 1
Technatorium Posted October 17, 2012 Posted October 17, 2012 Amusing... They'd done it in the past for testing certain aspects for games. If they follow the traditional route it won't be known until a beta or the final game releases.
Bill Gates' Son Posted October 17, 2012 Posted October 17, 2012 I'm not really into cheating, but it should definitely have a console mode (which you could probably enable via an ini file in the library). Having a console allows you to test many things (like increasing the levels on enemies, spawning more enemies, etc) without the use of mods. 1
macros Posted October 17, 2012 Posted October 17, 2012 Yes we definitely need a "cheat" console. The one in Baldurs Gate was useful in many ways. First I think that, in a single player game, people who like to cheat should be able to cheat. Use an option in an ini file for who have difficulty to keep themself from using it. Second it gives developers much freedom. Mod creators can test changes in their scripts without exiting the game, users who experienced a bug, for example a missed trigger, can fix this. An example: http://www.gamebanshee.com/forums/threads/viconia-romance-not-starting.84120/ Fun Cheats like the cow in BG provide fun, so I have nothing against them. They take up almost no development time. 2
jivex5k Posted October 17, 2012 Posted October 17, 2012 They'll have a console commandline I bet. No reason not to, if your against it then don't use it. Console commands can also fix broken quests before patches are out. 1
Leferd Posted October 17, 2012 Posted October 17, 2012 CLUAConsole:TheGreatGonzo() A favorite. 1 "Things are funny...are comedic, because they mix the real with the absurd." - Buzz Aldrin."P-O-T-A-T-O-E" - Dan Quayle
Jarmo Posted October 17, 2012 Posted October 17, 2012 Yeah, a bunch of codes for me thank you please. Kotor (or was it only in kotor2) did this nicely, enable console, do the cheats and after that your further saves would have a red "cheat" written on top of the save picture. And that's something I just had to live with, after doing the first clean run of each.
quantum_freak Posted October 17, 2012 Posted October 17, 2012 All for nonsense cheats (cows and chickens). But a god mode and endless gold would ruin the fun. 2 atoms walk into a bar, the one says " I believe i have lost an electron!" the other says " Are you sure?" the first atom says " I'm positive! "
Coincidence Posted October 17, 2012 Posted October 17, 2012 I don't really care either way, put them there for people who want them I guess. A lot of people get offended at the idea of others cheating but I don't see how anything other people do in a single player game affects me. 2
iHeldan Posted October 17, 2012 Posted October 17, 2012 If cheats make some people happy then why not. Less virus infected machines when people don't need to download ****ty malware cheatengines. 1
Nerei Posted October 17, 2012 Posted October 17, 2012 I really do not mind having cheats in a game, the can allow for funny situations, testing of alternate scenarios and in the end it affect none but the player itself. I really dislike the idea of someone else dictating how I should play a game. If it is resources/time that prevents them from adding it I can completely accept it, but some moral crusade by the devs or other players is something I really hate. If they add a multiplayer mode naturally it should not be possible there, or if they do have a toggle or something. 1
KarroK Posted October 17, 2012 Posted October 17, 2012 having a "cheat" console might not be a bad idea though depending on the game. Take for example skyrim, sometimes quests just block, vital NPC's don't spawn etc. The console allows you to reset a quest, spawn the NPC etc. Of course this is just one of uses aside from all the other stuff like making you a god or w/e or spawning items/goods. But players make the conscious choice of using them or not using them. If it adds the option of circumventing game bugs by the player until they are fixed I think a "cheat/test" console is a good plus to have available. Just imagine being stuck on that one main-plot quest in any RPG and not being able to progress due to a bug, that's just annoying. 3
Hassat Hunter Posted October 18, 2012 Posted October 18, 2012 Of course there will be cheats... what, you don't want QA or something? 1 ^ I agree that that is such a stupid idiotic pathetic garbage hateful retarded scumbag evil satanic nazi like term ever created. At least top 5. TSLRCM Official Forum || TSLRCM Moddb || My other KOTOR2 mods || TSLRCM (English version) on Steam || [M4-78EP on Steam Formerly known as BattleWookiee/BattleCookiee
Eraydon Posted October 18, 2012 Author Posted October 18, 2012 I surprised how some people strutted in to announce that the idea of putting cheats in the game is perposterous on moral grounds. Wha'???? As Coincidence said, it's a single player game. I love cheating in BG. I've never cheated in any other console game, but in BG, there were plenty of times I cheated to enhance fun. Once I cheat coded in a belt of sex change, put my character in multiplayer mode, and dropped it in a friend's inventory. So he put it on unknowingly and hilarious times ensued. I just wanted to bring it up to the developers as a strongly desired enchanced edition to the game!-- it could be set up just like BG's (as a .ini file) and everyone would be happy :D "According to some, heroic deaths are admirable things. I've never been convinced by this argument, mainly because, no matter how cool, stylish, composed, unflappable, manly, or defiant you are, at the end of the day you're also dead. Which is a little too permanent for my liking." "A dozen more questions occurred to me. Not to mention twenty-two possible solutions to each one, sixteen resulting hypotheses and counter- theorems, eight abstract speculations, a quadrilateral equations, two axioms, and a limerick. That's raw intelligence for you." -Bartimaeus
Gurkog Posted October 18, 2012 Posted October 18, 2012 Cheating isn't morally wrong, but if the game is any good players shouldn't be bored or frustrated enough to want to cheat. Grandiose statements, cryptic warnings, blind fanboyisim and an opinion that leaves no room for argument and will never be dissuaded. Welcome to the forums, you'll go far in this place my boy, you'll go far! The people who are a part of the "Fallout Community" have been refined and distilled over time into glittering gems of hatred.
Leferd Posted October 18, 2012 Posted October 18, 2012 Cheats will be in the game. You can't possibly test the game without them. That's why they are there. Just up to some clever people to unearth them. Look, it's a single player game. Different people enjoy playing how they want to play. Don't judge me if I like to run around with a party of rabid chickens. 3 "Things are funny...are comedic, because they mix the real with the absurd." - Buzz Aldrin."P-O-T-A-T-O-E" - Dan Quayle
Jarmo Posted October 18, 2012 Posted October 18, 2012 I got into the habit with NWN fan modules, which I knew I'd play only once. If I'd play a wizard, I'd build the character normally, but then bump up strength so I don't need to run back and forth so much. If I'd play a fighter, I'd probably boost char and int so I could manage the discussions as well. In a party based games, there's usually no need to cheat as you can have different specialists, no need to cheat in ToEE or IWD (unless I want something special) but NWN singleplayer is... well a single character.
Umberlin Posted October 18, 2012 Posted October 18, 2012 Eh . . . I'm not really fond out outright cheatcodes. Still, I do realize, as someone that is prone to taking part in modding communities, that having the developer console unlocked, or there being a way to unlock it, is a boon. "Step away! She has brought truth and you condemn it? The arrogance! You will not harm her, you will not harm her ever again!"
HansKrSG Posted October 18, 2012 Posted October 18, 2012 Yes, cheatcodes. I feel like these are one of the ways to enhance the game for the better. I'm sure many of you are familiar with the amazing and hilarious cheatcodes the Baldur's Gate series offered-- which added endless entertainment. Aside from the typical cheat coding gold, potions, weapons, armor, etc... I'm talking about the cheatcodes that you and your friends still laugh about. Like the beserk chickens cheat code. Who didn't, upon discovering this awesome cheat code, cheat in an army of beserk chickens and then go on a rampage? Or the cow spell cheat code? Who didn't, upon discovering this awesome cheatcode, drop a cow on their mighty foe? Or my personal favorite combo of cheatcodes: cheating spells to turn Candlekeep's guards into squirrels and then charming them. Army of squirrels? FTW. That is something I know myself and many of my friends would absolutely LOVE to see in Project Eternity. I feel not only would it enhance the game, but it would help add to that "classic" feel that BG and Zelda (with its beserk chickens) have achieved. Such childish cheats is a waste of time and has nothing to do with the game. A serious gamer doesn't use cheats to turn people into squirrels and chickens. Why so serious? Seriously though (no pun intended), I do hope you are not being that, serious that is, if games are not about fun, then what are they about? Having no humour when playing seems dull. Though I would not use such codes on my first playthorugh, they can be fun when returning to the game, and those who don't want them, can not go to the trouble of turning them on.
ComMcNeil Posted October 18, 2012 Posted October 18, 2012 Cheats will be in the game. You can't possibly test the game without them. That's why they are there. Just up to some clever people to unearth them. Look, it's a single player game. Different people enjoy playing how they want to play. Don't judge me if I like to run around with a party of rabid chickens. Agreed, but afaik there were games, that disabled the QA cheats in the game release later on. Most devs dont bother with that but it seems some do for whatever reason. To all nay-sayers: If people WANT TO cheat, they will find a way...either via hex editing, save game manipulating or other stuff...it does not affect you what others do with their own saves. 4
paasi Posted January 20, 2015 Posted January 20, 2015 Everyone has their own way to enjoy a game, if you want everyone to play and enjoy the game as you do, you're just another idiot in the net. I enjoy playing games with and without cheats and playing the backer beta has left me with the feeling that this game needs cheats, be it via console or a cheat engine -table.
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