Mass Effect 2 E3 Prelude

[Jaesun]

http://kotaku.com/5256144/biowares-mass-effect-2-e3-prelude

 

New video with some new game play footage. They don't really expand on what they did to make it "better" just the typical buzzwords (better, epic, darker etc...).

[fastpunk]

So they're focusing on improving the combat. Well, Mass Effect's combat was pretty good, and with some tweaks it can be great. Companion and enemy AI both need a few enhancements. Also, some tweaking to the responsiveness of the cover system would be great. Also, did I see weapon reloading at about 45-50 seconds in?

 

But as much as I'd love to see combat improvements, I feel there are other areas that need a lot more attention, like the dialog system, and general pacing. Also, side exploration should either suffer massive improvements, or get the boot.

 

Anyway, I'm interested in this one, and I hope the PC version comes out the same time as the other versions. Btw, any news on that?

Edited May 15, 2009 by fastpunk

[Hurlshort]

Woohoo.

 

I'll be happy with more of the same, to be honest. This stuff is like a summer action movie for me, just pure fun.

[Jaesun]

Anyway, I'm interested in this one, and I hope the PC version comes out the same time as the other versions. Btw, any news on that?

 

Last I checked, there is no "official" release date yet. I'd assume a 2010 Q2 or Q3 release date.

[Enoch]

This stuff is like a summer action movie for me, just pure fun chock full of wooden dialogue and hilariously over-the-top efforts to create empathy in cardboard-cutout characters.

Fixed that for you.

[Morgoth]

Given how crappy the gameplay mechanics worked in ME, there shouldn't be any surprise that ME2 has improvements.

[Purkake]

I wouldn't call the combat "pretty good" for a 2003 game. The best that can be said is that it worked, sometimes. The "AI" had the enemies get stuck behind pretty much anything and just wait for you to gun them down.

 

In KoTOR you could at least set up some actions without worrying about people getting stuck on everything.

 

If they are going to fix something, I'd start by removing the horrible sidequests with three different map templates that all look like someone did them on their lunch break.

Edited May 15, 2009 by Purkake

[Meshugger]

"We're going to have weapons that are going kill a thousand times over"

 

30-year olds talking like 12-year olds. *sigh*

[Cl_Flushentityhero]

Looks good. I'll believe these "massive" improvements when I see them, though.

 

I maintain my stance that Bioware games are typically good, but lack the stuff of greatness. At the end of the day, they're story-driven WRPGs that have a merely functional story. No matter how cool a car's chassis may be, without a good engine it's not going anywhere fast.

[Tel Aviv]

"Intense" is the new "extreme". Still, I'm excited for the sequel. I just hope they improve ME's repetitive planetary exploration. That sucked.

[Leferd]

Kewl.

 

Looking forward to the improvements and the game.

[Majek]

exploration and sidequests need improvements more than combat. But if the combat will be more fun that it was, than that's good too.

[I want teh kotor 3]

"We're going to have weapons that are going kill a thousand times over"

 

30-year olds talking like 12-year olds. *sigh*

 

Funny, 'cause I thought that was the highlight of the trailer. That, and

Shepard walking out of the bombed-out Normandy

.

[Blodhemn]

So they're focusing on improving the combat. Well, Mass Effect's combat was pretty good, and with some tweaks it can be great. Companion and enemy AI both need a few enhancements. Also, some tweaking to the responsiveness of the cover system would be great. Also, did I see weapon reloading at about 45-50 seconds in?

 

But as much as I'd love to see combat improvements, I feel there are other areas that need a lot more attention, like the dialog system, and general pacing. Also, side exploration should either suffer massive improvements, or get the boot.

 

Anyway, I'm interested in this one, and I hope the PC version comes out the same time as the other versions. Btw, any news on that?

 

Agreed.

 

How about, FAR LESS ITEMS TO PICK UP AND CLUTTER YOUR INVENTORY?

 

or

 

UNIQUE ITEMS YOU OBTAIN FROM DOING SIDE QUESTS?

 

or

 

POPULATED WIDE OPEN CITY AREAS?

 

or

 

SOME PLANETS WHICH TAKE A DIFFERENT APPROACH TO COMBAT?

 

or

 

A FREAKIN JET PACK OR SOMETHING TO DECREASE TIME ON FOOT?

[Sharen the Exile]

*forces excitement*

[WILL THE ALMIGHTY]

Looks nice. Doesn't deal with any of the problems I had with the game though.

[Volourn]

People are pretending that this is the only preview of the game. Other previews by BIO have talked about improving random planets/side quests, and the like. And, oh, the person who thinks the dialogue system should be improved is out of luck. There's no reason why ME's dialogue system should be changed and I doubt BIO has any plans to do so.

 

 

 

"30-year olds talking like 12-year olds. *sigh*"

 

Oh, please. Plenty of adults talk like that. Look at all the adult oriented action movies as evidence. Heck, look at Jack Bauer's popularity despite the fact in the real world people are often anti torture yet they idloize him. *shrug*

 

 

"The "AI" had the enemies get stuck behind pretty much anything and just wait for you to gun them down."

 

ME's AI was the best BIO AI ever, and better than 99% of games' AI espicially the overrated KOTOR series.

 

 

"In KoTOR you could at least set up some actions without worrying about people getting stuck on everything."

 

ME > KOTOR

 

For the most part, my AI companions AI would actually use their abilities intelligently even when not being directly controlled, and rarely if ever got stuck.

 

GO ME2 GO! DOWN WITH KOTOR 4EVAR!

[Bos_hybrid]

Hopefully its not all marketing spin, and they are actually putting some effort into fixing some of ME weaker parts.

 

For those interested and missed these on the ME boards:

 

Gamespy preview

 

Game Informer

 

1up

 

Ve3tro?

[Maria Caliban]

The man in the video has a feral mustache. If he's in charge of visuals, I can rest easy at night.

 

I liked ME and I'll like ME 2.

 

30-year olds talking like 12-year olds. *sigh*

 

More like a 16-year-old. They're a group men talking about an action game on the internet, as long as they don't swear or break into lolcat, they're at par.

Edited May 16, 2009 by Maria Caliban

[Niten_Ryu]

Woohoo.

 

I'll be happy with more of the same, to be honest.

 

Yup, me too.

 

Actually since I liked combat mechancis so much in ME, I'm bit worried as they have changed 'em.

[Maria Caliban]

I'm a bit disappointed this trailer didn't have heavy metal, bloodsplater, or naked women getting grabbed from behind. What happened BioWare? Have you sold out already?

[HoonDing]

New alien species, yey. I want a Hanar party member - or even better, an Elcor. Would make those half hour conversations between primary missions hilariously frustrating.

[Bos_hybrid]

Woohoo.

 

I'll be happy with more of the same, to be honest.

 

Yup, me too.

 

Actually since I liked combat mechancis so much in ME, I'm bit worried as they have changed 'em.

 

It sounds the same to me the only thing they have changed is ability usage/selection, which you can appently now change use without pausing. They've also added the abilty to issue orders to squad members individually, but I think that was already implemented in the PC version.

 

I'm a bit disappointed this trailer didn't have heavy metal, bloodsplater, or naked women getting grabbed from behind. What happened BioWare? Have you sold out already?

 

It's too early for the 'Krogan sex' trailer...

[Purkake]

"The "AI" had the enemies get stuck behind pretty much anything and just wait for you to gun them down."

 

ME's AI was the best BIO AI ever, and better than 99% of games' AI espicially the overrated KOTOR series.

 

 

"In KoTOR you could at least set up some actions without worrying about people getting stuck on everything."

 

ME > KOTOR

 

Apparently we were playing two very different games.

 

I'm a bit disappointed this trailer didn't have heavy metal, bloodsplater, or naked women getting grabbed from behind. What happened BioWare? Have you sold out already?

 

If you sell out twice, are you okay again?

[Niten_Ryu]

It sounds the same to me the only thing they have changed is ability usage/selection, which you can appently now change use without pausing. They've also added the abilty to issue orders to squad members individually, but I think that was already implemented in the PC version.

 

Yeah, I always forget that ME was Xbox360 game first. I'm talking about PC version that had quickslots for abilities and squad member movements. You still needed to pause game if you wanted to use squad members special abilities manually (they used abilities alone too but with braindead AI ).