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The Community Blog (An Invitation)

Obsidian making Fallout: New Vegas

funcroc
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If they drop VATS, it will just be a cheap and boring Stalker clone. Unless of course they also drop the firs person view, but I don't think Beth is gonna like that.

Rain makes everything better.

I would be shocked if they didn't use the same engine.

 

I'd also be shocked if they drastically overhauled the gameplay, but I suppose it's possible.

Edited by Cl_Flushentityhero

Seems like a fair bit of people already tempering their expectations.

 

can you blame us? jeezus.

 

first Tactics. then B.O.S. then VB dies. then Beth puts out the mess that is FO3. what i'm feeling right now is a confused mess of guardedly excited and pessimistically optimistic. or sth.

hopw roewur ne?
If they drop VATS, it will just be a cheap and boring Stalker clone. Unless of course they also drop the firs person view, but I don't think Beth is gonna like that.

 

 

Well, the real question is how much feedom is Obsidian going to have?

 

Though I feverntly hope otherwise, I don't believe Bethesda would allow them to drop VATS. Best we can probably hope for is more of a redesign to make it more challening and fun. I know Josh has thoughts about VATS and what would make it better.

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**** yeah. I'll buy this when it hits the shelves, hell I'll buy it before it hits the shelves.

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If they drop VATS, it will just be a cheap and boring Stalker clone.

 

Absolutely true! Um, except a Fallout game with complex quests and dialogue, no randomly generated areas, set in a wild west casino town, has absolutely nothing to do with Stalker. Oh and did you get the memo? Stalker didn't invent the FPS-RPG hybrid genre. :thumbsup:

I'm not sure what the VATS complaints are about. It is possible to never use it, if you'd like.

If they drop VATS, it will just be a cheap and boring Stalker clone.

 

Absolutely true! Um, except a Fallout game with complex quests and dialogue, no randomly generated areas, set in a wild west casino town, has absolutely nothing to do with Stalker. Oh and did you get the memo? Stalker didn't invent the FPS-RPG hybrid genre. :thumbsup:

 

Since when is STALKER an FPS-RPG hybrid? That's one memo I didn't get.

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If they drop VATS, it will just be a cheap and boring Stalker clone.

 

Absolutely true! Um, except a Fallout game with complex quests and dialogue, no randomly generated areas, set in a wild west casino town, has absolutely nothing to do with Stalker. Oh and did you get the memo? Stalker didn't invent the FPS-RPG hybrid genre. :thumbsup:

Stalker was an RPG?

 

I took Stalker as an example because it also features a destroyed world. It's basically a FPS, and Fallout without VATS is also basically a FPS (combat wise).

Edited by Morgoth

Rain makes everything better.

Sweet. Does this mean we're going to get Fallout games on a COD type schedule?

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It seems that John Gonzalez is the lead creative designer on Fallout: New Vegas.

Is that confirmed? And who is this gentleman actually?

 

hmmm... he was the former creative lead on the Aliens RPG.

 

John R. Gonzalez

Lead Creative Designer, Fallout: New Vegas

 

Current

* Lead Creative Designer at Obsidian Entertainment

 

Past

* Lead Narrative Designer at Ubisoft Entertainment (Shanghai)

* Writer at Outrage Entertainment

 

Summary

Narrative designer with extensive in-house game development experience. My current focus is storytelling for open-world role-playing games. Because they are awesome.

Edited by funcroc

STALKER is more of an immersive crpg than FO3 on its best day. WHich is pretty sad.

 

 

 

@hurlie: I think VATS hurt the realtime combat because the combat was balanced for VATS not for rt play. I played throigh FO3 using only the real time combat, and it's not good.

 

It was better than VATS though. If nothing else RT was a bit more challenging and entertaining.

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In my first post I just wish J.E. and the whole Obsidian team the best of luck with this one. Maybe the years of waiting will finally pay up. I'm counting on you. :thumbsup:

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I played throigh FO3 using only the real time combat, and it's not good.

 

It was better than VATS though. If nothing else RT was a bit more challenging and entertaining.

 

 

The FPS combat was horrible, they clearly meant for you to use VATS. I liked vats, it just got a bit much with the constant slowmo closeups.

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I'm more excited about this than the time I escaped the Soviet Union with naught but a toothpick. I sure hope Obsidian takes the opportunity to fix that broken combat system, though.

Edited by Talonfire

If they drop VATS, it will just be a cheap and boring Stalker clone.

 

Absolutely true! Um, except a Fallout game with complex quests and dialogue, no randomly generated areas, set in a wild west casino town, has absolutely nothing to do with Stalker. Oh and did you get the memo? Stalker didn't invent the FPS-RPG hybrid genre. :thumbsup:

Stalker was an RPG?

 

I took Stalker as an example because it also features a destroyed world. It's basically a FPS, and Fallout without VATS is also basically a FPS (combat wise).

 

More than most FPS's, but not really. Still that makes them even less alike.

 

Purely combat-wise? Well, sure. Personally I'd prefer a Deus Ex combat system, though that's not even too different to Stalker's. Would it even be a bad thing if the combat was like Stalker's - FPS in a desert?

 

I doubt Obsid will overhaul combat (besides a melee spruce up) and that's fine - story, dialogue and atmosphere are what matter.

wooohooo Vegas.... oh wait, which vegas, las vegas NM pr las vegas NV??

 

 

,, wonder if we will see area 51???

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I doubt Obsid will overhaul combat (besides a melee spruce up) and that's fine - story, dialogue and atmosphere are what matter.

 

QFT.

 

and story, dialogue and atmosphere were what Bethesda failed miserably with.

hopw roewur ne?
Hey, wasn't Van Buren set somewhere in Nevada?

 

IIRC, yes. :thumbsup:

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-Hurlshot

 

 

Hey, wasn't Van Buren set somewhere in Nevada?

Van Buren dipped into the eastern edge of Nevada, around Hoover Dam. The rest was Utah, Colorado, New Mexico, and Arizona.

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I'd like to see less wandering super-duper mutants, strange animals, mis-functioning robots, bandits and slavers. Instead have a civilised feel to it. An organized environment with farmers, builders, doctors, carpenters and so on but organised by criminals, pimps and corrupt politicians so it has the New Reno feel to it and the mafia has some control of outside area's.

 

However if you go to the borders/outskirts of Vegas you get the mutants, monsters, crazy robots and under ground bunkers. Making you want to explore to find these wonderful/bizzare things, however you still get the core story based around scumy humans.

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