Social conservatives 1, strippers 0

Posted by Aaron Marshall April 17, 2007 12:41PM

 

A bill that would effectively end the strip club world as we know it in Ohio passed the Senate Tuesday afternoon in a 24-8 vote.

 

Senate Bill 16 was proposed by an initiative petition filed by the Citizens for Community Values, a Cincinnati-area group that successfully pushed the gay marriage ban in Ohio. The bill was approved 7-1 Tuesday morning by the Senate's State and Local Government Committee.

 

The bill would put in place a 6-foot rule separating patrons and performing strippers and cause adult clubs without liquor licenses to close at midnight. Those with liquor licenses could keep serving alcohol after midnight, but no performances would be allowed.

 

The committee vote wasn't without intrigue, as several conservative Republicans on the committee appeared to be struggling with supporting the bill.

 

Read the rest HERE

 

Now let's forget the fact that this would never, ever be enforced. Ohio's public school funding system was ruled unconstitutional 10 years ago and still hasn't been fixed, manufacturing jobs are disappearing as factories close up shop, and this is how our representatives are spending time? Debating how much safer strip clubs would be if the strippers were six feet away?

 

Hell, some of the old folks I've seen in places like that won't even be able to see the girls if they're six feet away!

 

It just doesn't make sense to me. What are they trying to accomplish? I don't think the change would improve the secondary effects" the article talks about -- high crime rates, declining property values and urban blight -- because the clubs will still be there.

 

They aren't even trying to remove the strip clubs -- they're just making them less fun.

 

Thoughts?

Edited April 17, 200718 yr by Darth Drabek

Social conservatives 1, strippers 0

Posted by Aaron Marshall April 17, 2007 12:41PM

 

A bill that would effectively end the strip club world as we know it in Ohio passed the Senate Tuesday afternoon in a 24-8 vote.

 

Senate Bill 16 was proposed by an initiative petition filed by the Citizens for Community Values, a Cincinnati-area group that successfully pushed the gay marriage ban in Ohio. The bill was approved 7-1 Tuesday morning by the Senate's State and Local Government Committee.

 

The bill would put in place a 6-foot rule separating patrons and performing strippers and cause adult clubs without liquor licenses to close at midnight. Those with liquor licenses could keep serving alcohol after midnight, but no performances would be allowed.

 

The committee vote wasn't without intrigue, as several conservative Republicans on the committee appeared to be struggling with supporting the bill.

 

Read the rest HERE

 

Now let's forget the fact that this would never, ever be enforced. Ohio's public school funding system was ruled unconstitutional 10 years ago and still hasn't been fixed, manufacturing jobs are disappearing as factories close up shop, and this is how our representatives are spending time? Debating how much safer strip clubs would be if the strippers were six feet away?

 

Hell, some of the old folks I've seen in places like that won't even be able to see the girls if they're six feet away!

 

It just doesn't make sense to me. What are they trying to accomplish? I don't think the change would improve the secondary effects" the article talks about -- high crime rates, declining property values and urban blight -- because the clubs will still be there.

 

They aren't even trying to remove the strip clubs -- they're just making them less fun.

 

Thoughts?

why not tax the strip clubs and cut them some slack? then they support the community and build schools.

*sigh*

 

How times have changed. I remember while attending aviation electrician school in Tennessee there is a strip club called Deja Vu. You can sit so close to the stage there I once had a stripper kick my drink out of my hand whilst she was spinning around the pole. Good times, good times.

 

As to the points in the article, they are total BS. As already pointed out, the rule will not change anything outside of the establishment and wont be enforced inside of it.

When I read the thread title, I thought it meant they'd only be able to get near 6-foot poles.

Well, I certainly don't see much point in a move like that. If they're concerned about patrons getting too excited/drunk and raising a ruckus or accosting the dancers, or something to that effect, a 6 foot rule isn't going to change much of anything, unless the dancers are enclosed in safety cages. But if they were in cages, then the 6 foot rule wouldn't be needed for that purpose anyway.

What I have seen female audience seems to raise far more ruckus than male audience.

 

Uh, yeah.

Get 10 women and a male stripper in the same room and they go insane.

 

As for the legislation, I thought the universal rule was 'no touching'

Hehe, "no touching" is only enforced in the front room. Or so Ive heard.

They aren't even trying to remove the strip clubs

Yes, yes they are. They are trying to disincentivise the owners.

Thats a good point. Here in IL, the strip clubs are 1) booze but no nudity, 2) nudity but no booze. Now, not to sound like a total degenerate but how can you have one without the other? Its unnatural I tell you. I believe that is squarly aimed at making them less fun, thus causing less customers, thus causing less strip clubs.

Hehe, "no touching" is only enforced in the front room. Or so Ive heard.

Missus looking over your shoulder ?

Thats a good point. Here in IL, the strip clubs are 1) booze but no nudity, 2) nudity but no booze. Now, not to sound like a total degenerate but how can you have one without the other? Its unnatural I tell you. I believe that is squarly aimed at making them less fun, thus causing less customers, thus causing less strip clubs.

 

I've only been to a strip joint once.. and I really isn't that fun to begin with..

Legislation being pushed through by the notorious telescopes and binoculars lobby.

Thats a good point. Here in IL, the strip clubs are 1) booze but no nudity, 2) nudity but no booze.

that's not true in all of illinois. the clubs on the east side of st. louis (not really in east st. louis, but nearby) are all full liquor and full nudity. sauget is home to PT's and diamond club, both of which are owned by the same company. full nude though they represent the high-end of strip clubs. go a little north to brooklyn and you get all sorts of nasty establishments. roxies is the best, another PT's franchise, btw. it has full nude, full liquor and, not only will they kick your drink off the table, they'll do it while sitting on your face. some of the others are pretty raunchy.

 

the rules you refer to must be county by county... some of the clubs in that area are also open 24 hours (pop's saloon and music... ahh the memories, too bad it burned to the ground. nothing like getting kicked out for being too drunk at 8 am).

 

taks

Edited April 17, 200718 yr by taks

Thats a good point. Here in IL, the strip clubs are 1) booze but no nudity, 2) nudity but no booze. Now, not to sound like a total degenerate but how can you have one without the other? Its unnatural I tell you. I believe that is squarly aimed at making them less fun, thus causing less customers, thus causing less strip clubs.

 

I've only been to a strip joint once.. and I really isn't that fun to begin with..

All strip joints in Copenhagen are sleazy and kinda sad, I don't know what it's like elsewhere. I've been at a couple of bachelor parties with strippers though, quite enjoyable.

Strangely enough I have never been to a strip club. Spending money on women who I won't be able to touch seems like a waste to me.

 

Legislation being pushed through by the notorious telescopes and binoculars lobby.

 

I always knew they couldn't be trusted.

This is a fantastic idea. Lapdances have killed the art of the striptease, and this is the first step in reclaiming this noble way of life.

What's next? The banning of public orgies? They just do not want the Democrats in that state, do they?

Edited April 18, 200718 yr by Sand

Thats a good point. Here in IL, the strip clubs are 1) booze but no nudity, 2) nudity but no booze. Now, not to sound like a total degenerate but how can you have one without the other? Its unnatural I tell you. I believe that is squarly aimed at making them less fun, thus causing less customers, thus causing less strip clubs.

 

I've only been to a strip joint once.. and I really isn't that fun to begin with..

All strip joints in Copenhagen are sleazy and kinda sad, I don't know what it's like elsewhere. I've been at a couple of bachelor parties with strippers though, quite enjoyable.

 

True.. so very sadly true.. Which is why I've never visited a Danish strip joint.

 

I was in Prague, which is like 5 times as sleasy as Denmark. Maybe the fact that it was called "Banana Club" should've hinted me to that fact? (no it wasn't a gay strip joint - you filthy ****)

Maybe it is just me but I often found strip joints boring. No real interactivity.

Edited April 18, 200718 yr by Sand

If I could discretely remind members this is a family forum? Good.

 

Sounds like your standard incompetent administrative behaviour. The wood is full of wolves and you are at home, kicking the cat.

If I could discretely remind members this is a family forum? Good.

 

Yeah, but do kids frequent here though?

 

Sure some people are pretty childish, but I think we established, some time ago, that the average age here was around 25.

Isn't krookie like 15 or something?

17 I think.

 

But he plays Halo and other violent videogames so I think we're in the clear.