Surreptishus Posted January 22, 2006 Posted January 22, 2006 My guess is the comment about K3 possibly being an action game according to IGN. Only a guess though... "
Plano Skywalker Posted January 22, 2006 Posted January 22, 2006 (edited) My guess is the comment about K3 possibly being an action game according to IGN. Only a guess though... " <{POST_SNAPBACK}> oh, shall I did up the link? EDIT: OK, here is the snippet from IGN: LucasArts' recent silence by no means equals inactivity. On the contrary, Knights of the Old Republic 3, which we believe is in development with Obsidian Development, is in the early stages of creation for a late 2006 -- most likely a 2007 -- release. The game should feature more seamless interaction between NPCs and the lead character, as well as better, more economic interactions between party members. We predict the combat system will go entirely realtime, as opposed to partially realtime (the way it was in KOTOR 1 and 2), and RPG fans will be able to enjoy more distinct shades of gray recognized by characters instead of the black and white distinctions made in the first two iterations of the series. here is the hyperlink: http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/680/680220p1.html Edited January 22, 2006 by Plano Skywalker
Plano Skywalker Posted January 22, 2006 Posted January 22, 2006 D20 is a good system, especially in the low to mid range. I don't think any D20 CRPG has ever featured RT combat....but there is really no reason it could not....Jade Empire is RT AND STAT-BASED. Turn-based and partial turn-based are really just holdovers from PnP role playing. As long as combat is not Double Dragon-style (i.e. no stats, no stat enhancements) then it could work in real time. Stats (and the continuing customization thereof) are the key.
Judge Hades Posted January 22, 2006 Posted January 22, 2006 (edited) What does Jade Empire have to do anything with the d20 System? Only reason why KotOR 3 needs to use the d20 System is because the previous 2 games did. Consistancy needs to be maintained. If they want to use a different rules system for another SW CRPG, let them. Just don't call it KotOR. Edited January 22, 2006 by Judge Hades
Plano Skywalker Posted January 22, 2006 Posted January 22, 2006 all I'm saying is that, just because D20 has never been implemented RT, does not mean it cannot be. as long as you keep D20 stats, feats, leveling up, etc, you have stayed true (for the most part) to D20. it is only a matter of time before we see RT D20 games anyway. WOTC knows what sells.
Judge Hades Posted January 22, 2006 Posted January 22, 2006 (edited) The closest you will find to d20 Real time is the NWN and KotOR games. Seriously. The core mechanic of the d20 System combat requires rounds due to the way it is handled. Unless they completely change the combat rule mechanic there is no way it can be real time, and if they are going to change it that much they shouldn't even use the d20 System as its base. I rather have an original rules system than a mismatched d20 System. Edited January 22, 2006 by Judge Hades
WinterSun Posted January 22, 2006 Posted January 22, 2006 EDIT: OK, here is the snippet from IGN: LucasArts' recent silence by no means equals inactivity. On the contrary, Knights of the Old Republic 3, which we believe is in development with Obsidian Development, is in the early stages of creation for a late 2006 -- most likely a 2007 -- release. The game should feature more seamless interaction between NPCs and the lead character, as well as better, more economic interactions between party members. We predict the combat system will go entirely realtime, as opposed to partially realtime (the way it was in KOTOR 1 and 2), and RPG fans will be able to enjoy more distinct shades of gray recognized by characters instead of the black and white distinctions made in the first two iterations of the series. here is the hyperlink: http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/680/680220p1.html <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Believe. Predict. Should. Sounds like they're saying what they want to see, rather than any concrete facts. Not to mention the devs would need to design a new engine before making the actual game, making a 2007 release really unlikely. master of my domain Pedicabo ego vos et irrumabo.
Judge Hades Posted January 22, 2006 Posted January 22, 2006 If Obsidian is going to make a KotOR 3 I would like them to use the NWN 2 engine and beefit up a little and give the PC side a toolset for it.
WinterSun Posted January 22, 2006 Posted January 22, 2006 Wouldn't that make it PC exclusive? Not that I'd mind, but ignoring the console market would be bad business practice. master of my domain Pedicabo ego vos et irrumabo.
Khan_Mace Posted January 22, 2006 Posted January 22, 2006 Wouldn't that make it PC exclusive? Not that I'd mind, but ignoring the console market would be bad business practice. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No, it would not. Morrowind and Oblivion both have the construction set used to make the game in the PC version while at the same time there is an Xbox/360 version without it.
WinterSun Posted January 22, 2006 Posted January 22, 2006 I meant using the NWN2 engine would make it PC exclusive. From what I've seen of the 360 so far I doubt it could run it. master of my domain Pedicabo ego vos et irrumabo.
Surreptishus Posted January 22, 2006 Posted January 22, 2006 I meant using the NWN2 engine would make it PC exclusive. From what I've seen of the 360 so far I doubt it could run it. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Doubt based on what?
WinterSun Posted January 22, 2006 Posted January 22, 2006 I meant using the NWN2 engine would make it PC exclusive. From what I've seen of the 360 so far I doubt it could run it. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Doubt based on what? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well, it might handle the engine OK, but given the limited disk space for the 360, you'd end up with a short game that was all style and no substance. master of my domain Pedicabo ego vos et irrumabo.
Judge Hades Posted January 22, 2006 Posted January 22, 2006 What do you think they used in KotOR 1 and 2? The Odyssey Engine is just an upgraded Aurora Engine which was used in NWN 1.
WinterSun Posted January 22, 2006 Posted January 22, 2006 It is? Nevermind then. I seem to be talking out of my arse. master of my domain Pedicabo ego vos et irrumabo.
Weiser_Cain Posted January 22, 2006 Posted January 22, 2006 The 360 is a computer, I care more about all new, better/more realistic art. Yaw devs, Yaw!!! (
hawk Posted January 22, 2006 Posted January 22, 2006 EDIT: OK, here is the snippet from IGN: LucasArts' recent silence by no means equals inactivity. On the contrary, Knights of the Old Republic 3, which we believe is in development with Obsidian Development, is in the early stages of creation for a late 2006 -- most likely a 2007 -- release. The game should feature more seamless interaction between NPCs and the lead character, as well as better, more economic interactions between party members. We predict the combat system will go entirely realtime, as opposed to partially realtime (the way it was in KOTOR 1 and 2), and RPG fans will be able to enjoy more distinct shades of gray recognized by characters instead of the black and white distinctions made in the first two iterations of the series. I do like this piece of rumour. I just hope it would make a late 2007 release, giving Obisidian (if this is true) enough time to properly finish the game. I do not really care about the combat system. Yes, it is fine by me and I don't play a Kotor game because of it's action. But it is certainly a nice addition. But I do look forward to see the more gray approach as it is written in this article. Master Vandar lives!
Judge Hades Posted January 22, 2006 Posted January 22, 2006 Its rumor and until the game is officially announced all rumors are useless speculation that is best ignored.
DAWUSS Posted January 22, 2006 Posted January 22, 2006 EDIT: OK, here is the snippet from IGN: LucasArts' recent silence by no means equals inactivity. On the contrary, Knights of the Old Republic 3, which we believe is in development with Obsidian Development, is in the early stages of creation for a late 2006 -- most likely a 2007 -- release. The game should feature more seamless interaction between NPCs and the lead character, as well as better, more economic interactions between party members. We predict the combat system will go entirely realtime, as opposed to partially realtime (the way it was in KOTOR 1 and 2), and RPG fans will be able to enjoy more distinct shades of gray recognized by characters instead of the black and white distinctions made in the first two iterations of the series. here is the hyperlink: http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/680/680220p1.html <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Believe. Predict. Should. Sounds like they're saying what they want to see, rather than any concrete facts. Not to mention the devs would need to design a new engine before making the actual game, making a 2007 release really unlikely. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> "Expected" my [you know what]. They just use such terminology to make it sound like if such a longshot does happen, they got "the scoop". If nothing transpires, no one will even remember. Classic Chris Mortensen technique. Source: http://wildbill.invisionzone.com/index.php?showtopic=9239 DAWUSS Dawes ain't too bright. Hitting rock bottom is when you leave 2 tickets on the dash of your car, leave it unlocked hoping someone will steal them & when you come back, there are 4 tickets on your dashboard.
GhostofAnakin Posted January 22, 2006 Posted January 22, 2006 I hope someone keeps that IGN article so that if/when what they "predict/believe" doesn't happen, they can mail it to them and say "well? credibility zero!" "Console exclusive is such a harsh word." - Darque"Console exclusive is two words Darque." - Nartwak (in response to Darque's observation)
Darque Posted January 22, 2006 Posted January 22, 2006 I hope someone keeps that IGN article so that if/when what they "predict/believe" doesn't happen, they can mail it to them and say "well? credibility zero!" <{POST_SNAPBACK}> :ph34r: You can't spell Ignorant without IGN (w00t)
DAWUSS Posted January 22, 2006 Posted January 22, 2006 You can't spell Ignorant without IGN (w00t) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> cliche DAWUSS Dawes ain't too bright. Hitting rock bottom is when you leave 2 tickets on the dash of your car, leave it unlocked hoping someone will steal them & when you come back, there are 4 tickets on your dashboard.
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